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[Unpleasant Implications]

After my Shep is done using them, she'll fake her own death and become the Shadow Broker's top-lieutenant.

[BatmanPWNS]

Where will he get the equipment? Who will guide him? I am sure looting left and right will help Shepard get everything done.

[Arbitorius]

jtav wrote...

I'll be doing everything I can to see the Alliance crippled with as many casualties as possible. Every Alliance officer who can be killed will be killed. Earth will be left a smoking crater if I can manage it.

That's sick.

Your crew in the 1st game was Alliance. Joker was Alliance. Captain Anderson, Admiral Hackett, Chief Williams, Kaiden Alenko...some really great characters were part of the Alliance. Why would you want to kill them??

[Hyrist]

My canon Sheploo is a Vangard that starts mostly paragon and progressively gets more Renegade as the stress of the situation gets to him.

The world refused to believe him, even after he saved the world, he got trapped working for Cerberus, whom he hates, and everything he does just seems to go back against him. I figure by the end he'll be pretty unmerciful to people in power.

[Drone223]

Arbitorius wrote...

jtav wrote...

I'll be doing everything I can to see the Alliance crippled with as many casualties as possible. Every Alliance officer who can be killed will be killed. Earth will be left a smoking crater if I can manage it.

That's sick.

Your crew in the 1st game was Alliance. Joker was Alliance. Captain Anderson, Admiral Hackett, Chief Williams, Kaiden Alenko...some really great characters were part of the Alliance. Why would you want to kill them??

I'd say that jtav is either dosen't like human character's or is a Cerberus fan

Modifié par Drone223, 03 février 2012 - 11:02 .

[seirhart]

I'm not a cereberus fan and I'm not even an alliance fan either. Shepard doesn't need the alliance, and he certainly doesn't want to be forced to work for them either. He would rather work for the alien council that he saved and take orders from them far before he'd take orders from anyone in power in the alliance. Instead of getting resources from the alliance he go to the turians, the asari, the salarians and get help from them in exchange for helping them with there problems they have.

[Drone223]

^I was talking about jtav not you

[Arbitorius]

seirhart wrote...

I'm not a cereberus fan and I'm not even an alliance fan either. Shepard doesn't need the alliance, and he certainly doesn't want to be forced to work for them either. He would rather work for the alien council that he saved and take orders from them far before he'd take orders from anyone in power in the alliance. Instead of getting resources from the alliance he go to the turians, the asari, the salarians and get help from them in exchange for helping them with there problems they have.

You're talking about the Alliance like it's a company. You don't "work" for the Alliance Navy, you're a member of it. You are PART of it. It's a military branch.

You need someone to sponsor you. You lose the Alliance, they'll send Marines after you to retrieve the Normandy, and probably put you in the brig for neglecting your duty as an Alliance Marine. You betray Cerberus they try to kill you because they're disgusting pro-human terrorists. You betray the Alliance and they'll probably send a Spectre after you. We've seen this through ME1, except it was Saren being the traitor.

Also, not related to above quote:

I saw someone mention that they'd fake their own death and work for the Shadow Broker. Why? You're part of the most advanced military in the galaxy. Why would you stoop that low?

[BlueMagitek]

Drone223 wrote...

I'd say that jtav is either dosen't like human character's or is a Cerberus fan

Because all Cerberus fans are evil?  Advancement of humanity is advancement of humanity, Alliance or Cerberus.  I do hope you mean "Xenos fan".

As for dying and working for the Shadow Broker; it is moving up; you're working for the single most powerful person in the galaxy.

[Drone223]

Also When Shepard was working for Cerberus Hackett and Anderson did their best to keep the Alliance away from Shepard as best as possible, Shepard has powerfull allies within other goverment groups e.g. Salerian STG

Modifié par Drone223, 04 février 2012 - 03:15 .

[BlueMagitek]

Yes, yes they did. Especially Hackett; Anderson had his own Council related duties (keeping them off your back).

[Ryzaki]

Eh my Shep would rather move to a little backwater colony outside of Alliance space. With the SBs resources staying hidden would be laughably easy. The alliance needs Shep far more than he needs them.

Stealing the Normandy (especially during a Reaper invasion) wouldn't make a difference. The alliance could stomp and scream all they like that ship will still be gone. And if they're stupid enough to send someone after Shepard that person will either join Shep's crew or be in a body bag.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 04 février 2012 - 03:18 .

[BlueMagitek]

Ryzaki wrote...

Eh my Shep would rather move to a little backwater colony outside of Alliance space. With the SBs resources staying hidden would be laughably easy. The alliance needs Shep far more than he needs them.

Stealing the Normandy (especially during a Reaper invasion) wouldn't make a difference. The alliance could stomp and scream all they like that ship will still be gone. And if they're stupid enough to send someone after Shepard that person will either join Shep's crew or be in a body bag.

Why do you hate little backwater colonies?  We both know once Shep gets there the place is going up in flames.  It's just how he rolls. 

The middle of a Reaper war is not the time for backstabbing your allies. Wait until the end for that, like gentlemen. 

[Ryzaki]

BlueMagitek wrote...
Why do you hate little backwater colonies?  We both know once Shep gets there the place is going up in flames.  It's just how he rolls. 

The middle of a Reaper war is not the time for backstabbing your allies. Wait until the end for that, like gentlemen. 

D: No. My Shep will have his nice backwater colony that stays safe for a damn change. HE WILL HAVE IT! 

True true.

[BlueMagitek]

Ryzaki wrote...

D: No. My Shep will have his nice backwater colony that stays safe for a damn change. HE WILL HAVE IT! 

True true.

Come on now, we both know Shep will land there, get comfortable, make a line about how it's such a nice place, and suddenly everyone will turn into flaming Yahg Husks.  Because that's just the sort of thing that happens around Shepard.

[Ryzaki]

BlueMagitek wrote...
Come on now, we both know Shep will land there, get comfortable, make a line about how it's such a nice place, and suddenly everyone will turn into flaming Yahg Husks.  Because that's just the sort of thing that happens around Shepard.

My poor colonist/sole survivor. He'll never know peace.

[Arbitorius]

Ryzaki wrote...

Eh my Shep would rather move to a little backwater colony outside of Alliance space. With the SBs resources staying hidden would be laughably easy. The alliance needs Shep far more than he needs them.

Stealing the Normandy (especially during a Reaper invasion) wouldn't make a difference. The alliance could stomp and scream all they like that ship will still be gone. And if they're stupid enough to send someone after Shepard that person will either join Shep's crew or be in a body bag.

Again, another guy pumping he Shepard up like he's some sort of invincible super hero. last I checked, you could die in ME2. I doubt it will be any different in ME3. And I didn't say send one person, I said they'd probably send a fleet. You and I both know how much money the Normandy cost. It was protoype and is one-of-a-kind warship. The Allianc would it back. And no, your Shepard is not good enough to convince an entire Fleet to join him. And no, he cannot defeat an entire fleet by himself.

[Ryzaki]

Arbitorius wrote...
Again, another guy pumping he Shepard up like he's some sort of invincible super hero. last I checked, you could die in ME2. I doubt it will be any different in ME3. And I didn't say send one person, I said they'd probably send a fleet. You and I both know how much money the Normandy cost. It was protoype and is one-of-a-kind warship. The Allianc would it back. And no, your Shepard is not good enough to convince an entire Fleet to join him. And no, he cannot defeat an entire fleet by himself.

If you actually are fool enough to think the alliance is going to send a fleet after Shepard during the Reaper war . Or even afterwards when they're attempting to rebuild from the damage. One doesn't have to be a superhero to be able to defeat whatever alliance lackey they can spare to go after Shepard. The alliance is going to be pretty badly beaten up at the end of ME3. They'd have the be the highest caliber of moron to waste a fleet worth of resources hunting down a warship (one of a kind or not) when their home planet is on the brink of destruction (assuming it's not flat out destroyed) and all resources should be spent destroying the remaining reaper lackies and rebuilding as well as defending themselves from those that attempt to exploit said situation (like mercs). Pretty sure they'll be more concerned about surviving and having the planet stay inhabitable. Just saying.

Ship maybe one of a kind but it can be rebuilt. The waste of manpower and time trying to get it back and I'm pretty sure the alliance will be willing to write it off as a goner. Especially since the ship is corrupted by an AI and the one who took their ship is a war hero (not like some anti human terrorist got his hand on it). Sometimes you just gotta cut your losses. I can see them trying to destroy it remotely (which EDI will most likely easily detect) but trying to take it back? Too much hassle. If Shep doesn't manage to evade them, EDI or Joker would and I'm pretty sure the alliance at that point will have far more important concerns.

So yep. My Shep will have his little backwater colony after ME3 and his war ship.

That said yeah knowing Shep's luck it'll be attacked by swarms of husks and he'll be stuck traveling from place to place destroying the remanants of the reaper army.


FYI: Last I checked I was female not male.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 04 février 2012 - 06:24 .

[BlueMagitek]

Ryzaki wrote...
So yep. My Shep will have his little backwater colony after ME3 and his war ship.

That said yeah knowing Shep's luck it'll be attacked by swarms of husks and he'll be stuck traveling from place to place destroying the remanants of the reaper army.
FYI: Last I checked I was female not male.

We've been over this; alien husks, everywhere.  Who happen to be slavers with a grudge against humanity.  Shepard resulted in the death of their leader at one point or another throughout his murderous rampages through ME 1/2.  Oh, and they're constantly on fire, just to spite you.  Things on fire are always harder to defeat than things that are not currently being immolated.  ^_^"

[Hyrist]

Ryzaki wrote...

FYI: Last I checked I was female not male.

 <_<

This information needs verification. 

That said I'm not entirely sure how I want my endings for each of my Sheppards.  But pumping up the reptuation of Sheppard in general is fine. Sheppard is, in fact, a god(dess), if by no other means but from incredible luck of having his/her abilities to survive certain circumstances.

Still, I bet most of mine are just going to retire back with his or her LI in that little apartment stowed away in the Red Paradice, provided survival is possible.

[Shinobu]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if one is in the military and a superior officer gives one a lawful direct order it must be obeyed, otherwise it's mutiny (a capital offense).

My Shepard has no intention of following direct orders that she feels harm the chances of beating the Reapers. For example:

Mikhailovich: Shepard! I'm taking command of the Normandy! We are going to stay here and defend Earth until help arrives!
Shepard: Sir, Admiral Anderson ordered me to the Citadel to gather allies!
Mikhailovich: I have seniority over Anderson, and I order you to stay here! If you can't obey, turn over your weapon and sit in the brig! Someone get these aliens off my bridge!

I'm not blowing Shepard's importance out of proportion. She knows she can't defeat the Reapers on her own without the help of the Alliance fleet. She just doesn't want to be part of their command structure any more. Pretty much all of the things Shepard needed the Alliance/Cerberus for she can get for herself.

1) Intel: Liara
2) Credis/Materiel: Looking through crates pretty much covered everything in the past.
3) Crew: Joker & EDI were able to take the place of the entire crew during the suicide mission. Many others will be willing to cast their old affiliations aside to support Shepard, including Gabby, Ken, Rupert, Chakwas, Hawthorne, Tali, Garrus, etc.
4) Ship: Shepard commandeered the Normany from Cerberus in ME2. The Alliance is too busy to chase it down and as long as she's fighting on the right side they have no reason to want to.

Finally, my Shepard's a SPECTRE and would rather not be part of two separate and possibly conflicting chains of command.

In the end, it probably won't matter, because the Alliance won't end up giving stupid orders in ME3 or if it does, everyone will be forced to disobey them. Those of you who think you won't must still be sitting in Flux in ME1, waiting for Udina to unlock the Normandy.

[Sealy]

Y'know what. All my Shep wants is her gd promotion. I mean you save the entire Galaxy twice and still it's all Commander. Not that I don't love Legions "Shepard, Commander" bit. Wait, actually she likes being commander, she would like to be offer the title of Captain so she can turn it down. Instead it kinda looks like she is going to be stripped of rank.

Modifié par Fleshdress, 08 février 2012 - 06:11 .

[Jynthor]

I'd rather have joined Cerberus, but Shepard isn't Space Jesus, he can't do whatever he wants and get away with it.

[SteamPunkJin]

I always found it funny Shep bothered to listen to AN Orders after she became a SPECTR. You just got the biggest field promotion ever! I doubt that Saren was still taking order from the Turian Armada once he was inducted into the SPECTRs

[Litany of Fury]

My Shepards are Alliance troopers through and through. I'll do whatever I can to help them, whenever I can.