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[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

>Calls himself sophisticated

>Has probably the highest number of insults on BSN

That's pretty funny coming from you.

Then we add another one to the count.

[Aurora313]

My Shepard devolves from optimistic paragade into pragmatic paragade. He's had a very dark past, but he grew from and tries to maintain a diplomatic attitude... though his balisong is never too far away when someone gets on his nerves enough.

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...


Maybe but you are downright fanatical in your renegade bias so any discussion with you about how renegades are treated in ME 3 is going to be tainted by your fanaticism.

If that's true then you are the complete opposite.

However  whether I'm real dedicated to playing Renegade or not I and many others have put forth the reasons we feel we've been gyped numerous times. Each time people like you tended to ignore that and instead twist our words or even argue with us about things we never even said.

Failing that, you'd just outright say that we were getting what we deserved.

I have done renegade playthroughs before on more than one occasion because I want to see how different things play out in ME 3.  I highly doubt you have done more than one paragon playthrough.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Then I only have as many as you.

No, you're still the reigning champion in that department, because I haven't been perma-banned because of my actions. Unlike you.

[Someone With Mass]

Not to mention that I have yet to see any Renegade playthrough that's unable to be completed because of the previous actions.

[KotorEffect3]

which means I have perspective on the matter, I can see things from moe than one point of view. Have you tried a paragon playthrough that you intend to import just for the sake of seeing how things play out?

[tetrisblock4x1]

They're nothing but numbers. They try to track shepards niceness, shepards political points of view, shepards likability, shepards priorities, shepards ruthlessness, shepards mercy and the color of shepard underpants.

It tries to reflect on everything shepard does and because of that it is unreliable.

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Not to mention that I have yet to see any Renegade playthrough that's unable to be completed because of the previous actions.

Nobody has ever complained about that happening, SWM.

What they've complained about is the lack of impact their choices have. Specifically, importing a Renegade into ME2 is in many ways identical to not importing at all. Your decisions don't carry over well if you play Renegade because in many cases you just get a blank space where a cameo would be.

Paragon doesn't get much really, just flavoring, but I'd still have flavor instead of nothing.

Others will go further and say that every Paragon decision turning out for the best is a bit imbalanced and hurts the believability of the setting. I think that's a fair claim, but only over all. There are no specific choices where I think PARAGON MUST FAIL. 

So far, that is up to ME2, no Paragon or Renegade choices have had any serious positive or negative effects. I'd like to see that change. I'd like both Paragon and Renegade to have mixed outcomes, good outcomes, and bad outcomes.

I'd like my Renegade decisions to carry over to future games and pay-off (for the player) with exclusive content in the form of exclusive characters and such like the Paragon got in ME2.

I heard somewhere that some missions would be exclusive in ME 3.  Meaning that if you go on mission x that you cannot go on mission y.

[SykoWolf]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

No, you're still the reigning champion in that department, because I haven't been perma-banned because of my actions. Unlike you.

Perma-banned? I'm still here. What are you talking about?

Anyway, it's called seniority, kid.

You're well on your way though. You've got a nasty attitude to rival my own.

I've noticed tonight that you're being nicer. Did somebody have a friendly chat with you? 

Grow up you two, act like your age.

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

which means I have perspective on the matter, I can see things from moe than one point of view. Have you tried a paragon playthrough that you intend to import just for the sake of seeing how things play out?

No I haven't because I don't need to.

I did have one originally in ME1 but I lost all of those saves. After playing ME2 I knew there was no need to import a Paragon. This was partly a result of my exposure to ME2 and how the morality system played out and also a result of discussing the game to death on the forums.

After reading the Leak I have even less reason to import a Paragon to ME3 or any Shepard for that matter or even to play the game.

I will say this: the Leak didn't surprise me that much. It continued the trend ME2 set.

Saphra as much as you complain about it you are still going to play the game.  You would not be posting here on a daily basis if you had no intention of playing.  and reading or hearing about something is not the same as experiencing it.  So no you don't know the paragon experience.

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra as much as you complain about it you are still going to play the game.

Hmm. If you want to buy it for me I might play it. Otherwise no, I'm not going to waste money on it.

Once I have my new PC I'll have more than enough to keep me occupied.

I post here for the following reasons:

Habit

Latent love for Mass Effect

Stanely Woo has way more lenient than I thought he would

I honestly don't get people that post here but won't buy the game especialy when they have dedicated so much time into the first two games.  Especialy now that the reapers are here.  I don't get it at all

[DJBare]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I did have one originally in ME1 but I lost all of those saves. After playing ME2 I knew there was no need to import a Paragon. This was partly a result of my exposure to ME2 and how the morality system played out and also a result of discussing the game to death on the forums.

I assumed there was no reason to import a paragon to ME2, but it turns out there are at least a couple of reason's that may have an effect on ME3, one of the examples is the message given by an asari about the rachni, this does not occur without the import of a Shepard who let the queen go in ME1, I don't know how it will default in ME3 without an import, but I'm guessing it won't be the best outcome.

[mybudgee]

Whoa. Wtf did i walk in on?!? *slowly backs out of room*

Modifié par mybudgee, 03 février 2012 - 10:09 .

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I honestly don't get people that post here but won't buy the game especialy when they have dedicated so much time into the first two games.  Especialy now that the reapers are here.  I don't get it at all

Perhaps I'm angry and disappointed after having put in that much time? I'd rather make sure everyone else knows just how pissed I am about it turning out this way.

This is it, the finale. I was greatly anticipating this since ME1 (which I played as a Paragon in almost as much as I did Renegade, btw).

Now it's here but the game is crap. The series has changed completely into one that I no longer can get excited about. That sucks.

I'm just waiting for a suitable time and place to bring the fire down and go out with a bang.

Who knows, maybe I'll just get my hands on the leak again and post all the juicy spoilers right in place where you'll see 'em. That'd be satisfying.

Now that is just being an immature douchebag.  So because you didn't like what they did (btw despite what you and your cerberus cult believes ME 2 was a critical and commerical success and ME 3 will probably be the same) you want to ruin the excitement for others because you want to be a spiteful troll.  Get a damn life.

[KotorEffect3]

mybudgee wrote...

Whoa. Wtf did i walk in on?!? *slowly backs out of room*

You walked into another Saphra crapfest

[SykoWolf]

I know this is off topic but.....SEAN CONNERY ROCKS!!!