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[incinerator950]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

I like it that emotional paragons will going to Sacrifice their squads in ME3!

Yes, it's called good writing and story telling.

The execution of it has yet to be seen.

[Hunter of Legends]

incinerator950 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

I like it that emotional paragons will going to Sacrifice their squads in ME3!

Yes, it's called good writing and story telling.

The execution of it has yet to be seen.

I don't doubt Bioware...I know their MO and they do good work.

[incinerator950]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

I like it that emotional paragons will going to Sacrifice their squads in ME3!

Yes, it's called good writing and story telling.

The execution of it has yet to be seen.

I don't doubt Bioware...I know their MO and they do good work.

I agree, but I keep it on the low end so I don't dissapoint myself.  I alreadyl earned that lesson the hardway from Lucas Arts.

[BlueMagitek]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Because the "best" outcome is sending character/species/groups/armies to their death.

Most likely characters the player cares about.

Reapers gonna reap.  Better they die fighting than die indoctrinated.

Besides, given that we have fewer squadmates in ME 3, and two of them might not be there at all if they died in ME 2, you shouldn't worry too much about the main cast.

Thane's dying anyway, might as well make it quick rather than a slow, painful death in a hospital bed.

[Hunter of Legends]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Because the "best" outcome is sending character/species/groups/armies to their death.

Most likely characters the player cares about.

Reapers gonna reap.  Better they die fighting than die indoctrinated.

Besides, given that we have fewer squadmates in ME 3, and two of them might not be there at all if they died in ME 2, you shouldn't worry too much about the main cast.

Thane's dying anyway, might as well make it quick rather than a slow, painful death in a hospital bed.

I just finished my renegade play through.

MY Shep didn't care (except is lover Jack) but losing Tali AND Legion hurt.

[BlueMagitek]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

I just finished my renegade play through.

MY Shep didn't care (except is lover Jack) but losing Tali AND Legion hurt.

Why?  One of them was forced upon you in ME 1 by your supposed friend and mentor along with a politician, the other is a geth who may very well be lying to your face; he provides no evidence of his claims and, worst comes to worst, you have Overlord, which could cause another split in the Geth if not cause them all to come under your sway.

[Hunter of Legends]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

I just finished my renegade play through.

MY Shep didn't care (except is lover Jack) but losing Tali AND Legion hurt.

Why?  One of them was forced upon you in ME 1 by your supposed friend and mentor along with a politician, the other is a geth who may very well be lying to your face; he provides no evidence of his claims and, worst comes to worst, you have Overlord, which could cause another split in the Geth if not cause them all to come under your sway.

Are you asking ME or what my shepard would think?

Because I already said my RENEGADE playthrough Shepard didn't give a vorcha's ass about half the crew dying(except Jack).

Modifié par Hunter of Legends, 08 février 2012 - 06:26 .

[BlueMagitek]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Are you asking ME or what my shepard would think?

Because I already said my RENEGADE playthrough Shepard didn't give a vorcha's ass about half the crew dying(except Jack).

You said it hurt.

Oh, so now renegades are heartless monsters?  That's quite a claim you have there.

[Hunter of Legends]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Are you asking ME or what my shepard would think?

Because I already said my RENEGADE playthrough Shepard didn't give a vorcha's ass about half the crew dying(except Jack).

You said it hurt.

Oh, so now renegades are heartless monsters?  That's quite a claim you have there.

No, but full renegades who makes all renegade decision are.

As for me, it did hurt because I "care" about the characters. Tali was throughout all the games a friend and companion who stuck there through thick and thin. Legion was a peacebringer who just wanted what (hopefully) we all want for everyone...peace.

[William Shakespeare]

paragons are wimps......

there i said it!

[incinerator950]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Are you asking ME or what my shepard would think?

Because I already said my RENEGADE playthrough Shepard didn't give a vorcha's ass about half the crew dying(except Jack).

You said it hurt.

Oh, so now renegades are heartless monsters?  That's quite a claim you have there.

No, but full renegades who makes all renegade decision are.

As for me, it did hurt because I "care" about the characters. Tali was throughout all the games a friend and companion who stuck there through thick and thin. Legion was a peacebringer who just wanted what (hopefully) we all want for everyone...peace.

No legitamte comment.

[Heimdall]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Are you asking ME or what my shepard would think?

Because I already said my RENEGADE playthrough Shepard didn't give a vorcha's ass about half the crew dying(except Jack).

You said it hurt.

Oh, so now renegades are heartless monsters?  That's quite a claim you have there.

Ypu're missing the character/player segregation

[Hunter of Legends]

incinerator950 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Are you asking ME or what my shepard would think?

Because I already said my RENEGADE playthrough Shepard didn't give a vorcha's ass about half the crew dying(except Jack).

You said it hurt.

Oh, so now renegades are heartless monsters?  That's quite a claim you have there.

No, but full renegades who makes all renegade decision are.

As for me, it did hurt because I "care" about the characters. Tali was throughout all the games a friend and companion who stuck there through thick and thin. Legion was a peacebringer who just wanted what (hopefully) we all want for everyone...peace.

No legitamte comment.

Is that a good or a bad thing?

[Hunter of Legends]

Lord Aesir wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Are you asking ME or what my shepard would think?

Because I already said my RENEGADE playthrough Shepard didn't give a vorcha's ass about half the crew dying(except Jack).

You said it hurt.

Oh, so now renegades are heartless monsters?  That's quite a claim you have there.

Ypu're missing the character/player segregation

He didn't seem to get that...

[GodWood]

Hunter of Legends wrote...
Legion was a peacebringer who just wanted what (hopefully) we all want for everyone...peace.

And yet it and it's fellow bots didn't feel it necessary to tell the quarians this.

[Hunter of Legends]

GodWood wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...
Legion was a peacebringer who just wanted what (hopefully) we all want for everyone...peace.

And yet it and it's fellow bots didn't feel it necessary to tell the quarians this.

I'm starting to get the feeling you don't pay attention to ANY of the discussion or conversation in ME because this very thing is brought up SEVERAL times and answered as to why the Geth couldn't/didn't do anything.

Simple answer...the Quarians never let them get the chance.

[GodWood]

Hunter of Legends wrote...
I'm starting to get the feeling you don't pay attention to ANY of the discussion or conversation in ME because this very thing is brought up SEVERAL times and answered as to why the Geth couldn't/didn't do anything.

Lol.

Simple answer...the Quarians never let them get the chance.

I'm talking about that period of 300 years after the geth slaughtered 99% of the quarian population.

Communication would have been possible, they simply chose not to.

[incinerator950]

GodWood wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...
I'm starting to get the feeling you don't pay attention to ANY of the discussion or conversation in ME because this very thing is brought up SEVERAL times and answered as to why the Geth couldn't/didn't do anything.

Lol.

Simple answer...the Quarians never let them get the chance.

I'm talking about that period of 300 years after the geth slaughtered 99% of the quarian population.

Communication would have been possible, they simply chose not to.

It would have, but the general consensus with the Quarians is that they want to kill the Geth.  Every time the Quarians knew the odds were in their favor, they've attacked 100% of the time.

[GodWood]

incinerator950 wrote...
It would have, but the general consensus with the Quarians is that they want to kill the Geth.

And so they should. The geth slaughtered billions of non-combatants, kicked them off their homeworld and have been slaughtering anyone who so much as comes near them for 300 years.

That really leaves little reason to befriend them 

Every time the Quarians knew the odds were in their favor, they've attacked 100% of the time.

The odds haven't been in their favour for 300 years. Also, what are they supposed to do? Never have the geth indicated they're open to peace.

[AgitatedLemon]

GodWood wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...
It would have, but the general consensus with the Quarians is that they want to kill the Geth.

And so they should. The geth slaughtered billions of non-combatants, kicked them off their homeworld and have been slaughtering anyone who so much as comes near them for 300 years.

That really leaves little reason to befriend them 

Every time the Quarians knew the odds were in their favor, they've attacked 100% of the time.

The odds haven't been in their favour for 300 years. Also, what are they supposed to do? Never have the geth indicated they're open to peace.

In the words of Admiral Koris... "Of course they did. We tried to kill them".

And Legion says to Shepard's face that the non-heretic geth are open to peace.

[incinerator950]

GodWood wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...
It would have, but the general consensus with the Quarians is that they want to kill the Geth.

And so they should. The geth slaughtered billions of non-combatants, kicked them off their homeworld and have been slaughtering anyone who so much as comes near them for 300 years.

That really leaves little reason to befriend them 

Every time the Quarians knew the odds were in their favor, they've attacked 100% of the time.

The odds haven't been in their favour for 300 years. Also, what are they supposed to do? Never have the geth indicated they're open to peace.

The Geth formed a semblence of Sapience, when the Quarians found out, they reacted poorly.  The Geth defended themselves.  I can't but feel apathy for the Quarians, they brought it on themselves.

[GodWood]

AgitatedLemon wrote...
In the words of Admiral Koris... "Of course they did. We tried to kill them".

Admiral Koris is a moron and a traitor.

A select few ordered the termination of the geth race. That hardly justifies the complete and total annihilation of every single quarian man, woman and child.

Think harder about that. At 50% the quarians would've no longer been a threat, if they wanted they could've negotiated a peace but no, they continued to relentlessly slaughter billions and billions of innocent non-combatants.

The geth are monsters.

And Legion says to Shepard's face that the non-heretic geth are open to peace.

And like I said, in 300 years they've never thought to tell anyone who isn't Shepard that.

incinerator950 wrote...
The Geth formed a semblence of Sapience, when the Quarians found out, they reacted poorly. The Geth defended themselves. I can't but feel apathy for the Quarians, they brought it on themselves.

Again a select 'few' ordered the termination of the geth.

And it stopped being 'self defence' pretty damn quickly. I'd criticise you people for putting so little thought into the quarians POV but Bioware's presentation has always had a bit of a geth bias.

Modifié par GodWood, 08 février 2012 - 07:13 .

[incinerator950]

GodWood wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
In the words of Admiral Koris... "Of course they did. We tried to kill them".

Admiral Koris is a moron and a traitor.

A select few ordered the termination of the geth race. That hardly justifies the complete and total annihilation of every single quarian man, woman and child.

Think harder about that. At 50% the quarians would've no longer been a threat, if they wanted they could've negotiated a peace but no, they continued to relentlessly slaughter billions and billions of innocent non-combatants.

The geth are monsters.

And Legion says to Shepard's face that the non-heretic geth are open to peace.

And like I said, in 300 years they've never thought to tell anyone who isn't Shepard that.

Because the Geth were content to Isolation, the Reapers and Heretics forced the Geth to look for someone who has experience with dealing with both.  In so doing, he's done more in three hundred years then the Quarians even tried. 

I never liked Gypsies anyway.

[AgitatedLemon]

GodWood wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
In the words of Admiral Koris... "Of course they did. We tried to kill them".

Admiral Koris is a moron and a traitor.

A select few ordered the termination of the geth race. That hardly justifies the complete and total annihilation of every single quarian man, woman and child.

Think harder about that. At 50% the quarians would've no longer been a threat, if they wanted they could've negotiated a peace but no, they continued to relentlessly slaughter billions and billions of innocent non-combatants.

The geth are monsters.

And Legion says to Shepard's face that the non-heretic geth are open to peace.

And like I said, in 300 years they've never thought to tell anyone who isn't Shepard that.

1. You sure do like semantics, don't you? How is Koris a traitor?

2. Again, Legion says (to Shepard's face) that no one has interacted with a non-heretic geth since the end of the Morning War. Ergo, no one that isn't a krogan or an asari. 

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 08 février 2012 - 07:14 .

[incinerator950]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

GodWood wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
In the words of Admiral Koris... "Of course they did. We tried to kill them".

Admiral Koris is a moron and a traitor.

A select few ordered the termination of the geth race. That hardly justifies the complete and total annihilation of every single quarian man, woman and child.

Think harder about that. At 50% the quarians would've no longer been a threat, if they wanted they could've negotiated a peace but no, they continued to relentlessly slaughter billions and billions of innocent non-combatants.

The geth are monsters.

And Legion says to Shepard's face that the non-heretic geth are open to peace.

And like I said, in 300 years they've never thought to tell anyone who isn't Shepard that.

1. You sure do like semantics, don't you? How is Koris a traitor?

2. Again, Legion says (to Shepard's face) that no one has interacted with a non-heretic geth since the end of the Morning War. Ergo, no one that isn't a krogan or an asari. 

The Quarians being no better off then the Batarians when they lost their territory rights to the Humans by the council, and imposed a self-exile on themselves.