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[CroGamer002]

Chewin3 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
Gonna add this.

Pure Paragon deserves to get the worst ending for being naive fool.
Same for pure Renegade for being a complete ahole and thinking he/she is pragmatic.

You should credit the one who posted that first.

Forgot who said that and too lazy to check it.

OK, I'll check it.


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DJBare wrote...

Both pure renegade and pure paragon should get an absolute kicking in the rump, the first for naivety, the second for being an arse.

Modifié par Mesina2, 05 février 2012 - 01:02 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...
Saphra as much as you complain about it you are still going to play the game.  You would not be posting here on a daily basis if you had no intention of playing.  and reading or hearing about something is not the same as experiencing it.  So no you don't know the paragon experience.

If she was the only onecomplaning, you might have a point..MIGHT.
But she isn't. Plenty of others, with both Paragon, Renegade, Renagon and Paragade playtroughs feel the same.

You haters are in the vast minority.  A loud whiney and irritating minority, but still a minority.  I am more excited for this game than I have ever been for a game.

Well, you blinded, whiny bio-drones would pick up a s*** from the street and proclaim it's a work of art. And your'e also in the minority.
Most people dont' care, dont' know, dont' post or are too ill-informed or just follow the trend.

[Rip504]

And Shiala is replaced. If I'm not mistaken,which I don't think I am.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Saphra Deden... there is no arguement to be made anymore.

It's a plain-as-day fact that Bioware employs Paragon favoritism across the Mass Effect series (being the choices that get the majority of time and effective effort). There is no arguement that can be made against it that can counter it (because the facts are facts).

Paragon choices yield the most story continuity, saves the most lives, provides the most content, provides the most cameos ("the dead are irrelevant" -Harbinger), and the most positive plot percs across the board for the pivotal decisions.

There's simply nothing that can be used to argue against it... the proof is in the pudding. It also seems like Bioware hasn't done anything about it for Mass Effect 3 (except revealing a distorted perception of what "punishing" means when transferred to the story of a game).

[Lotion Soronarr]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
Ah yes...the "True Fan" fallacy.

There's nothing sadder then people thumping their chests and expressing their fanboyism....

Oh is that so Mr "I am never wrong about anything"

Never?
If you can find me a quote of my saiyng that I will publicly acknowledge your greatness.

Not never...just never in my argumetns agaisnt you drones so far.

[Phaedon]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...
would pick up a s*** from the street and proclaim it's a work of art. And your'e also in the minority.

You are new to modern art projects, aren't you.

Most people dont' care, dont' know, dont' post or are too ill-informed or just follow the trend.

Most people vote ME3 as their most anticipated game of the year, and ME2 as GOTY of 2011. Trend or not, most people don't see this as a huge issue.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

jreezy wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

If you kill Fist on the Citadel,your Shepard should be in jail.

I'm going to assume that's a joke.

In case it's not, I advise all interested parties to look up "Spectres."

[Collider]

If you kill Fist on the Citadel,your Shepard should be in jail. Consider it an unfair advantage.
Paragons have to worry about Fist killing more innocents while obeying the law.

The fact of the matter is that neither kind of Shepard had to worry about anything. Fist is reduced to a pathetic shadow of his former self.

And yet renegades still get no content. Hence, the paragons have the unfair advantage here.

I don't really expect Bioware to give both rewards and consequences to renegade and paragon decisions alike. So far the track record is that paragon = good, renegade = bad or lack of content.

They have also said that in ME3, it's best to stick with your "principles," so I doubt that full paragons are suddenly going to face consequences that they can't nullify by spamming the paragon options.

[Gibb_Shepard]

"Renegade" decisions should be treated like the Wrex/Wreave situation. Simple.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Saphra Deden... there is no arguement to be made anymore.

It's a plain-as-day fact that Bioware employs Paragon favoritism across the Mass Effect series...

I know, but I thought with proof maybe a few more people would be willing to admit it.

Though, frankly, I don't think that was ever needed because what "Renegades" and other players were asking for was not unreasonable.

I think those who deny it are just trying to protect their sense of good judgement based on the outcomes the games have provided thusfar.  Truth is what it is though.

Deep down, I think they know it's the truth already.  You never see Bioware staff addressing this complaint do you?  And how long have these complaints gone on and derailed threads, etc.

If it's something Bioware wasn't doing, they would've addressed it by now.  I think it's pretty clear at this point that there is no answer for it... and development is too far along to change anything about it.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Paragon and Renegade decisions were at their best in Mass Effect 1 (with no sequel). There was give and take to the outcomes... some up sides and down sides, etc.

ME2 throws all of that away and ME3 seems to be heading full steam in ME2's direction (perhaps even beyond it)...

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 05 février 2012 - 01:13 .

[Phaedon]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Paragon and Renegade decisions were at their best in Mass Effect 1 (with no sequel). There was give and take to the outcomes... some up sides and down sides, etc.

Uh...explain? ME2 was much better than ME1 when it comes to consequences of actions that happen in the same game anyway.

[Barquiel]

Chewin3 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
Gonna add this.

Pure Paragon deserves to get the worst ending for being naive fool.
Same for pure Renegade for being a complete ahole and thinking he/she is pragmatic.

You should credit the one who posted that first.

I haven't found any naive paragon decisions so far.

[Phaedon]

jreezy wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

"Renegade" decisions should be treated like the Wrex/Wreave situation. Simple.

A simple copy and paste? No that's lazy.

And when done too much, it actually becomes worse than just not having an outcome for one of the playstyles. Just arrange content a bit more efficiently, it's not that hard.

[Collider]

jreezy wrote...

Gibb_Shepard wrote...
"Renegade" decisions should be treated like the Wrex/Wreave situation. Simple.

A simple copy and paste? No that's lazy.

I don't think it turns out to be copy and paste in ME3.
You get different options depending on who's the leader of the clan.

[Collider]

Barquiel wrote...

Chewin3 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
Gonna add this.

Pure Paragon deserves to get the worst ending for being naive fool.
Same for pure Renegade for being a complete ahole and thinking he/she is pragmatic.

You should credit the one who posted that first.

I haven't found any naive paragon decisions so far.

Letting Balak and the rachni go may qualify.

[Phaedon]

Collider wrote...
Letting Balak and the rachni go may qualify.

The rachni? Really? It's pretty obvious that they were indoctrinated. Didn't you pay any attention to what Benezia said? It was rather logical.

As for Balak, it was less naive than it was too tough a decision for some.