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[LPPrince]

To all of you saluting me, I salute y'all right back. /Rainbow Dash avatar

[Yuoaman]

We're the best at salutin'.

[XXIceColdXX]

With any luck Deception v2, 'will be a really fun lead in to ME3, and make Kei Leng badass'.

[Almostfaceman]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

You would have been more convincing if you hadn't made those obvious and horrendous mistakes in the first place. You show your fan base you care by maintaining a high standard from the START, not a half assed one later on down the road. 

That kinda goes without saying. But now that a mistake has been made they've owned up and are trying to "make right" by the fans.  What else can they do at this point?

Go find your happy pills. 

[mineralica]

AVPen wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I certainly will not be buying a copy of this book though. Either now or in the future. I don't think Bioware can really salvage it. They can do a lot to address the issues, but I think it's going to remain outside my own personal canon no matter what they do.

Pretty much this for me, as well - a lot of issues can be fixed, that's for sure, but some of them (especially Gillian's autism) would require a complete rewrite of the novel's plot, which I honestly don't see happening at this point (though BW has, admittedly, surprised me with this apology and commitment to improve the novel).

Incidently, I just started reading Ascension and though I already know the ending from my research for this Deception debacle, I can already say for my own "head canon", Gillian and Hendel will forever be travelling on the Idenna - never to engage in the events that occur in Deception.

I'm not an expert in such matters, so please feel free to point if I'm wrong, but think the combination of "her condition got far better after Grayson stopped giving her Cerberus drugs", "who knows what happens with brain of young biotics" and some introduced moments reminding about her condition would do the trick.

[felipejiraya]

Now the question is: when this v2 of Deception will be launched?

Before or after ME3?

[TMA LIVE]

Kind of hard to be a lead in to a game that'll be out by the time the re-edit is done.

I wonder if they'll get Dietz to do the edits? Or is another writer doing that? If so, will this writer be credited?

[Ellkol1138]

Something to consider is that with this announcement, the canon status of the book is in a limbo state, so if they don't follow up on this we don't have to worry about it screwing the canon.

[Chewin]

Criz-Zone wrote...

keep reading or wait for the revised edition to be released?!
*thinky*

Reading both version never hurt anyone.

Next time you can read what they changed, though I doubt it'll be anything major. Well if you don't count them fixing everything that needs fixing to be major, that is.

[XXIceColdXX]

felipejiraya wrote...
Now the question is: when this v2 of Deception will be launched?
Before or after ME3?

Hopefully they take there time with this to give it the attention it deserves.

Dont rush it Bioware!, and thoroughly crosscheck with the Googledocs error list.

Modifié par XXIceColdXX, 03 février 2012 - 09:56 .

[LPPrince]

Ellkol1138 wrote...

Something to consider is that with this announcement, the canon status of the book is in a limbo state, so if they don't follow up on this we don't have to worry about it screwing the canon.

I can confirm that the first version of the novel is now non-canon.

Its the FINAL versions that are canon, so if they'll be editing it, which they will, THOSE will be canon.

Hopefully we get a more thorough re-write that...well, changes almost everything. At this rate the entire novel can't work with its major transgressions, and if those get corrected, the current state of the novel makes no sense-

A 15 year old autistic little girl going on a manhunt for her father's killer? LOLWUT

[nitefyre410]

LPPrince wrote...

To all of you saluting me, I salute y'all right back. /Rainbow Dash avatar

 


Sir I have to say good job,  they listened. 

Here is a victory cigar for ya.    

And Chris thank you for the apology   


Edit: Oh yes how shameful of me to forget ...the  Victory Fanfare 

Modifié par nitefyre410, 03 février 2012 - 09:59 .

[petetehcanuck]

Shame on Bioware for allowing this Deception debacle to occur in the first place. Did anyone at Bioware even proof the book as it was being written? Glad I didn't buy it (I have the first two novels).

Maybe they can get Drew Karpyshyn for a rewrite?

[Eshaye]

Thank you Bioware and thank you die hard fans, LPPrince and everyone who chipped in to get the message out. I hope the book becomes tolerable enough to read and be included in the canon.

Good luck whoever has to get this thing fixed. *gives you beer*

[BentOrgy]

petetehcanuck wrote...

Shame on Bioware for allowing this Deception debacle to occur in the first place. Did anyone at Bioware even proof the book as it was being written? Glad I didn't buy it (I have the first two novels).

Maybe they can get Drew Karpyshyn for a rewrite?

That's the scary thing; Casey said he "Reviewed," the piece of garbage, and said that it looked great. Oh, and that "Kai Leng is a badass."

Not very encouraging.

EDIT: "Finished my final review of the #MassEffect Deception novel. A really
fun lead-in to #ME3! Kai Leng is a badass. January 31 release." - Casey Hudson.

And I once again fully support having Mass Effect's "Real," writer back.

Modifié par BentOrgy, 03 février 2012 - 10:02 .

[izmirtheastarach]

mineralica wrote...

]I'm not an expert in such matters, so please feel free to point if I'm wrong, but think the combination of "her condition got far better after Grayson stopped giving her Cerberus drugs", "who knows what happens with brain of young biotics" and some introduced moments reminding about her condition would do the trick.

It's up to the idividual reader to decide whether that would suffice. Literally any explanation would have served better then Dietz's decision to simply pretend that he Autism had never existed.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 03 février 2012 - 09:58 .

[WizenSlinky0]

LPPrince wrote...

A 15 year old autistic little girl going on a manhunt for her father's killer? LOLWUT

Eh, I disagree. The only *problem* with it is the social stigma against kids doing traditionally un-kidlike stuff, which just as with everything, sometimes happens.

Of course, a 15 year old wielding a gun when as far as we know she's had no training with it would be odd. But I see no issue with a 15 year old biotic killing machine, at least from a writing standpoint, if not an emotional standpoint.

[LPPrince]

nitefyre410 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

To all of you saluting me, I salute y'all right back. /Rainbow Dash avatar

 


Sir I have to say good job,  they listened. 

Here is a victory cigar for ya.

Psst- I don't smoke, don't do drugs, rarely drink alcohol.

Modifié par LPPrince, 03 février 2012 - 10:00 .

[LPPrince]

Eshaye wrote...

Thank you Bioware and thank you die hard fans, LPPrince and everyone who chipped in to get the message out. I hope the book becomes tolerable enough to read and be included in the canon.

Good luck whoever has to get this thing fixed. *gives you beer*

Thank you, Gracias, Grazie.

[CerberusSoldier]

Is this saying in so many words fans control the story .

[Foxtrot 212]

I must say I am shocked...... Yet very very very pleased with Bioware. Will have to go buy a current copy just too have. Will they announce when the rewrite hits the shelf or cover it up?

[nitefyre410]

LPPrince wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

To all of you saluting me, I salute y'all right back. /Rainbow Dash avatar

 


Sir I have to say good job,  they listened. 

Here is a victory cigar for ya.

Psst- I don't smoke, don't do drugs, rarely drink alcohol.

 


Well this would be an occasion for some Champagne as for the cigar you don't have smoke it.. its just a tradition. 

[BentOrgy]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Is this saying in so many words fans control the story .

No: They just actually pay attention.

[LPPrince]

nitefyre410 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

To all of you saluting me, I salute y'all right back. /Rainbow Dash avatar

 


Sir I have to say good job,  they listened. 

Here is a victory cigar for ya.

Psst- I don't smoke, don't do drugs, rarely drink alcohol.

 


Well this would be an occasion for some Champagne as for the cigar you don't have smoke it.. its just a tradition. 

How about you just accept my brohoof?

[XXIceColdXX]

Take pride in what we've achieved.