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[NubXL]

Really wonder how significant the revisions will be. Without sifting through all 50 pages, I'm gonna assume that no one from BioWare clarified?

[LumpOfCole]

Mass Effect Deception - Rage Comic Edition :: Chapter 08

http://i.imgur.com/FwSGA.jpg 

[Foul_Slime]

Oh man, oh man. I finally just got my hands on this book, having heard all of the negativity generated in its wake. And when I first read the complaints of fans about the lore errors and flat story-telling, I scarcely could believe it, that someone had butchered a piece of my beloved Mass Effect so terribly.

And though I like my literature complex, compelling, and perhaps a bit whimsical, I think I'll read it anyway, if only to say I did and allowing me to comment on it more fully. Though if half of what I've heard about this train-wreck of literary prose is correct, then it'll probably make me laugh and cry at the same time. Kai Leng stealing cereal? Really? I can't decide whether that's hilarious or idiotic.

Well, I'll go get started. If I'm not back in six hours, assume I went mad in my attempt to read what sounds like an absolute minefield of ludicrousness. Peace yo.

[BentOrgy]

Zhuinden wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Noticed Dietz has been tooting his own horn on twitter again... Its like he is oblivious to the international backlash this novel has recieved.

He's just trying to sell it - after all, you have to make a living somehow.

Maybe he should try writing books, I hear that works.

[Yuoaman]

LumpOfCole wrote...

Mass Effect Deception - Rage Comic Edition :: Chapter 08

http://i.imgur.com/FwSGA.jpg 

I love how you need to fill these things with disclaimers, this **** is too surreal to be believed...

[Zhuinden]

BentOrgy wrote...

Zhuinden wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Noticed Dietz has been tooting his own horn on twitter again... Its like he is oblivious to the international backlash this novel has recieved.

He's just trying to sell it - after all, you have to make a living somehow.

Maybe he should try writing books, I hear that works.

As evidence shows, it apparently really doesn't. :innocent:

[LumpOfCole]

Yuoaman wrote...

LumpOfCole wrote...

Mass Effect Deception - Rage Comic Edition :: Chapter 08

http://i.imgur.com/FwSGA.jpg 

I love how you need to fill these things with disclaimers, this **** is too surreal to be believed...

If it wasn't so surreal, I wouldn't bother with the comics.

[Mann42]

LumpOfCole wrote...
If it wasn't so surreal, I wouldn't bother with the comics.

And I commend you on your awesome comics. I keep this thread bookmarked so I can see your new installments. Every one of them has had me laughing out loud, followed by a session of crying in the shower in the fetal position.

Keep up the awesome work!

[sixstringedthing]

Got around to completing my profile just to say thanks for the rage comics... hilarious, and surely much more entertaining than the Dietz trashpile so you saved me $10 and the necessity of disposing of a small pile of ash. MOAR, MOAR!

[ZLurps]

AVPen wrote...



Well that didn't take too long, did it? 

Was just checking this thread if anyone else got similar kind of association as I did whem I saw that scene. Close enough
"I WANT YOUR CEREAAAALS AAARGH!"

[TMA LIVE]

Just finished it.

So apparently, Grayson grabbed footage of himself being turned into a Husk by Cerberus (HOW????), loaded it on a locket, only to give it to Gillian who was impossible to give anything to, since she was on ship far far away.

Also, Grayson was possessed by the Reapers at that point, but they apparently didn't mind him doing all this.

This book is full of stupid.

The only thing this tells you is what you probably already know. Cerberus is building an army of Graysons. Kai is going to get an upgrade. The Leader of the Biotic Underground has escape for future use. And all the book characters have been assassinated, besides Sanders.

I also hope Sanders and Anderson don't have kids. Because they're clearly can't do anything without two kids running out on them, and being unable to find them till they're dead.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 11 février 2012 - 10:10 .

[BentOrgy]

Zhuinden wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

Zhuinden wrote...

XXIceColdXX wrote...

Noticed Dietz has been tooting his own horn on twitter again... Its like he is oblivious to the international backlash this novel has recieved.

He's just trying to sell it - after all, you have to make a living somehow.

Maybe he should try writing books, I hear that works.

As evidence shows, it apparently really doesn't. :innocent:

I was being sarcastic; because despite him selling pieces of paper with words on them, I could never consider them books.

[Foul_Slime]

I too have just finished this disaster of a book. And in truth I was holding out a feeble hope that all of the negative hype, all the trash-talking, all of the scorn directed its way was somehow exaggerated by overzealous fans, allowing a slim hope for a descent narrative to shine through.

But cripes alive if it wasn't as terrible and idiotic as everyone said it was. It was a cargo-load of wasted time and stupidity, plus bad uninteresting writing to boot. Nothing important happened, so very much made no sense, and the inaccuracies. Oh god the inaccuracies! I had to swallow vomit each time I turned the page and surged vainly onward. Ick, I feel sullied and dirty now.

Truly, this was a mistake of nature, brought into existence by some hideous soul-sapping force from beyond to torment us all. That is the only explanation that seems plausible as Bioware surely wouldn't let such a tragedy take place. Otherwise, how could this monstrosity be allowed? I ask you? How? Someone answer me damn-it!

[Zhuinden]

BentOrgy wrote...

Zhuinden wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

Maybe he should try writing books, I hear that works.

As evidence shows, it apparently really doesn't. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png[/smilie]

I was being sarcastic; because despite him selling pieces of paper with words on them, I could never consider them books. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

With all due honesty, I can't but think of this.
And although it's originally a joke, I think those books would actually be of better qualify than this.

Foul_Slime wrote...

I too have just finished this disaster of a book. And in truth I was holding out a feeble hope that all of the negative hype, all the trash-talking, all of the scorn directed its way was somehow exaggerated by overzealous fans, allowing a slim hope for a descent narrative to shine through.

But cripes alive if it wasn't as terrible and idiotic as everyone said it was. It was a cargo-load of wasted time and stupidity, plus bad uninteresting writing to boot. Nothing important happened, so very much made no sense, and the inaccuracies. Oh god the inaccuracies! I had to swallow vomit each time I turned the page and surged vainly onward. Ick, I feel sullied and dirty now.

Truly, this was a mistake of nature, brought into existence by some hideous soul-sapping force from beyond to torment us all. That is the only explanation that seems plausible as Bioware surely wouldn't let such a tragedy take place. Otherwise, how could this monstrosity be allowed? I ask you? How? Someone answer me damn-it!

Well, at least the critiques are well-written.
I seriously wonder why he was writing the 'book' (or how he's a "best-seller author" to begin with) considering there are so many people here on BSN who can write with more cohesion and versatility in thirty seconds.

Modifié par Zhuinden, 12 février 2012 - 01:09 .

[Gabey5]

 

Modifié par Gabey5, 12 février 2012 - 06:29 .

[JamesFaith]

Foul_Slime wrote...
Truly, this was a mistake of nature, brought into existence by some hideous soul-sapping force from beyond to torment us all. That is the only explanation that seems plausible as Bioware surely wouldn't let such a tragedy take place. Otherwise, how could this monstrosity be allowed? I ask you? How? Someone answer me damn-it!

It was simple accident. BIOWARE unfortunately didn't see connection between these two hearth attacks and one jumper in their editing office, and when last living editor (who was later arrested and sent to Arkham after bombing cereal company, then dancing in fake Hydra armor in burning ruins and crying "I will starve you to death, Kai Leng!") told them that Deception is great, they believed him.

[BentOrgy]

With all of Bioware's attention so focused on hyping ME3, they're not going to want a bunch of bad publicity chasing them around every corner.

It makes me wonder when we'll here anything new about this "Revision." After ME3's released?

[LumpOfCole]

Mass Effect Deception - Rage Comic Edition :: Chapter 09

http://i.imgur.com/0fNJS.jpg 

[CARL_DF90]

I'm still amazed this garbage made it past the folks at Bioware. It would be fair to wager that with the team wholehearted focused on finishing up ME3, they simply couldn't give it the attention needed. Not until it was too late and the damage had been done. A hard lesson to learn to be sure. Now Bioware not only has to play damage control but also make sure this doesn't happen again in other ME related media, i.e. the Mass Effect anime and/or movies currently in the works. It should go without saying this fiasco has sealed the fate of Deitz's writing career. Very few will want anything to do with him after such a high profile screw up like this. He not only has embarrassed himself but his client as well. I really don't envy the guy.

[Zhuinden]

LumpOfCole wrote...

Mass Effect Deception - Rage Comic Edition :: Chapter 09

http://i.imgur.com/0fNJS.jpg 

The faces of Aria. GENIUS!

[LumpOfCole]

I figured Liquify really helps her Dietzified expressions

[Privatr16]

Despite all of its flaws I did like the story. Then the last chapter happened.

Now I am just unhappy by the entire plot of three books built up to a whole bunch of good guys going the way of Nihlus just so we can be told that Kai Leng is a "badass" which anyone who read Retribution knew already. Thanks to the last chapter in this book, I walked away for the first time with anything having to do with the mass effect series feeling unmotivated and depressed. I need ME3 to come so I can wash this horrible taste from my mouth.

Modifié par Privatr16, 13 février 2012 - 02:24 .

[ParagonGreg]

I just finished it. I don't think it's as bad as everyone says. It's still, very much, really quite bad, but I've read worse books. Better books, too. Many many better books.

Also, I felt that Gillian was accurately portrayed as autistic. Her motivations and inner monologue were in keeping with how I think a higher functioning autistic would be. However, every other character in the entire book also thinks and behaves as a higher functioning autistic, so maybe that was just accident.

Overall, I wouldn't give it 1 star. Maybe 1.5, 2 max. Also, I'd rather put out a cigarette on my face than read this book or any other by Dietz again.

[Heimdall]

ParagonGreg wrote...

I just finished it. I don't think it's as bad as everyone says. It's still, very much, really quite bad, but I've read worse books. Better books, too. Many many better books.

Also, I felt that Gillian was accurately portrayed as autistic. Her motivations and inner monologue were in keeping with how I think a higher functioning autistic would be. However, every other character in the entire book also thinks and behaves as a higher functioning autistic, so maybe that was just accident.

Overall, I wouldn't give it 1 star. Maybe 1.5, 2 max. Also, I'd rather put out a cigarette on my face than read this book or any other by Dietz again.

The issue with Gillian is more that her autism is never referenced in any way.  The closest she comes to it is mentioning that she had anger issues when she was younger.  Which makes it sound like a phase she grew out of.

[ParagonGreg]

Lord Aesir wrote...

ParagonGreg wrote...

I just finished it. I don't think it's as bad as everyone says. It's still, very much, really quite bad, but I've read worse books. Better books, too. Many many better books.

Also, I felt that Gillian was accurately portrayed as autistic. Her motivations and inner monologue were in keeping with how I think a higher functioning autistic would be. However, every other character in the entire book also thinks and behaves as a higher functioning autistic, so maybe that was just accident.

Overall, I wouldn't give it 1 star. Maybe 1.5, 2 max. Also, I'd rather put out a cigarette on my face than read this book or any other by Dietz again.

The issue with Gillian is more that her autism is never referenced in any way.  The closest she comes to it is mentioning that she had anger issues when she was younger.  Which makes it sound like a phase she grew out of.

Agreed.  I wonder if Dietz even knew.