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It's awesome that Bioware is commenting on this issue.

Dietz did a similar job on The Flood, I'm surprised that he was able to get another tie-in offer after that.


Because it was one of the originals and Halo series was still growing. At the time it was considered okay but, now its considered mediocre just play Halo.


It's not just his tie-in novels though. I've read Dietz's Sauron Duology (Deathday, Earthrise) and a few of his Legion series books, and they were pretty bad with their own information as well.

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Victory! Success! Triumph!

For the love of God keep Kai Leng the Cereal Killer! That was just gold... and while it was kind of joke, I really want him to stay the "adrenaline junkie" we know him as.

Also, keep Hendel gay and address Gillian's autism appropriately if it STILL has to remain completely cured.

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ODST 3 wrote...

This is why Bioware is the best dev on the planet. True champs!

Thanks to them for listening, as is usual for them but unusual for the majority of game companies.

This.
I AM REALLY SURPRISED ! :o

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Congrats to everyone that worked so hard getting the word out there about the book (and thank you for saving me some $$), and kudos to Bioware for acknowledging and hopefully fixing this.

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Hello Man wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

VICTORY!

For the love of God keep Kai Leng the Cereal Killer! That was just gold... and while it was kind of joke, I really want him to stay the "adrenaline junkie" we know him as.

Also, keep Hendel gay and address Gillian's autism appropriately if it STILL has to remain completely cured.


The cereal thing is pretty much now a inside joke. But I agree they should probably keep it. But not for a dang adrenaline rush. Seriously.


Adrenaline junkies have to do what adrenaline junkies do, though.

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So it took us 11 days. 11 Days, dozens of 1-star reviews, thousands of forum posts, and articles on a dozen major news sites. This was a reasonably successful effort.

I do want to say huge kudos to Bioware for allowing us to run a campaign torpedoing one of their own products from their own official forum. After some early bumps, we were allowed the freedom to express our opinions without anyone trying to shut us down or moderate us.

Congrats to everyone who participated.

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It is not just the facts, he would have to redo all the character flaws in people like Gillian and Kai Leng

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But I have to say with all seriousness...despite the fact this should have never happend to begin with. I think it was really big of Bioware to actually say sorry. This pleases me...I accept and you have restored a tiny amount of faith in your integrity to me, because I know your not yet a souless corporation who don't give two s***s about your consumer base. You actually listened....and are taking some steps in an attempt to make amends. While I am sure this books craptastic plot will still be there at least we can properly fit it into the Timeline. I may one day consider purchaseing this revised copy...once I listen to the feedback on it of course.

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I believe there is only one thing to say at this moment:



Weeeeeeeeeee are the Chaaampions, my friends...

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As much as I appreciate the gesture .It's going to be near impossible to do a revision of this book. If they want to keep the plot points basically the same there is going to have to be tons of additional work to give the characters proper motivation. And there is really no way to solve the Gillian issue that doesn't seem like a cop-out. Everything else can be relatively simply changed but that's gonna be a toughie. 

Honestly Bioware you'd be better off delcaring this whole thing non-canon.

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Thank you, Bioware! :) I'm looking forward to reading the revised edition!

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makenzieshepard wrote...

It's going to be near impossible to do a revision of this book. If they want to keep the plot points basically the same there is going to have to be tons of additional work to give the characters proper motivation.

And there is really no way to solve the Gillian issue that doesn't seem like a cop-out. Everything else can be relatively simply changed but that's gonna be a toughie.


Plot? What plot? It had a plot?

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roflchoppaz wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

As much as I appreciate the gesture .It's going to be near impossible to
do a revision of this book. If they want to keep the plot points
basically the same there is going to have to be tons of additional work
to give the characters proper motivation. And there is really no way to
solve the Gillian issue that doesn't seem like a cop-out. Everything
else can be relatively simply changed but that's gonna be a toughie. 

Honestly Bioware you'd be better off delcaring this whole thing non-canon.



Plot? What plot? It had a plot?


Well more like "plot results"

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Victory!

Blizzard would've hired Christie Golden to make another book to explain all the inconsistencies, Bungie wouldn't have bothered to comment, BioWare goes back to the editor table to make right what should never have been wrong.

And people wonder why I like BioWare as a company =)

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Hello Man wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

VICTORY!

For the love of God keep Kai Leng the Cereal Killer! That was just gold... and while it was kind of joke, I really want him to stay the "adrenaline junkie" we know him as.

Also, keep Hendel gay and address Gillian's autism appropriately if it STILL has to remain completely cured.


The cereal thing is pretty much now a inside joke. But I agree they should probably keep it. But not for a dang adrenaline rush. Seriously.


It was a real stupid thing to do in that situation. Kai Leng is supposed to give as a lot of headaches in ME3, yet it seems he´s a stupid augmented thug at best.

And are they going to change the plot? Even without continuity mistakes, it doesn´t seem to have much point beyond ending the book characters in a really bad way.

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roflchoppaz wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

It's going to be near impossible to do a revision of this book. If they want to keep the plot points basically the same there is going to have to be tons of additional work to give the characters proper motivation.

And there is really no way to solve the Gillian issue that doesn't seem like a cop-out. Everything else can be relatively simply changed but that's gonna be a toughie.


Plot? What plot? It had a plot?


It had a plot in the same way Star Wars Episode 3 had one. Everyone knew something was going on, but the jumping off points from one thing to the next were simply non-existent.

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makenzieshepard wrote...

roflchoppaz wrote...

Plot? What plot? It had a plot?


Well more like "plot results"


Results?

This book was just pointless killing of 3 characters! :pinched:

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Thank God (The Goddess? Keela?)! Although, trying to overhaul that book will be akin to trying to overhaul the Soviet economy, best just to scrap it and leave it at that. Too bad my $8.50 is non-refundable...

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#148
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Hello Man wrote...


Well then maybe the new one won't be so pointless.


God, I hope so.

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And please let alone Karshan and Palaven. :)

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They need to do way instain Kai Leng.