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[voteDC]

I also think that they've given up on the idea of releasing a 'fixed' edition of the book.

After this amount of time, and the distractions caused by the endings of Mass Effect 3, they've likely written it off as a bad job.

[Icinix]

voteDC wrote...

I also think that they've given up on the idea of releasing a 'fixed' edition of the book.

After this amount of time, and the distractions caused by the endings of Mass Effect 3, they've likely written it off as a bad job.

Indeed. Although after ME3 - I really don't have any further interest in what the Mass Effect galaxy has to show me either.

I wonder how the extra bits and pieces outside of the games will hold up in the future now.

[MANINTHECREEK]

Im at least glad to see people posting on this subject still. I havent read deception for obvious reasons but am still happy to re-read the first three books for now untill pending announcement from BW. Also, Im pretty happy with the graphic novels which makes me stoked for the upcomming Homeworlds hardcover!

[Nicsienieda]

MANINTHECREEK wrote...

Im at least glad to see people posting on this subject still. I havent read deception for obvious reasons but am still happy to re-read the first three books for now untill pending announcement from BW. Also, Im pretty happy with the graphic novels which makes me stoked for the upcomming Homeworlds hardcover!

I thought they said it's not hardcover?

[Loerwyn]

Unless it gets one of those special edition ones like the previous ones did (at least I think they did, my memory is rusty).

Shame there's so much radio silence about Deception. I didn't dislike the previous three books, enjoyed them enough for what they were, and the inconsistencies for Deception really turned me off and I'm glad I've held off for now. I do hope we get a new date soon, though.

[Thargorichiban]

voteDC wrote...

I also think that they've given up on the idea of releasing a 'fixed' edition of the book.

After this amount of time, and the distractions caused by the endings of Mass Effect 3, they've likely written it off as a bad job.

Yup. Bioware has apparently outright lied to us about this, as evidenced by their claim they were going to do a revised edition.

[Ithurael]

After the ME3 sh*t storm I doubt they have time or resources to devote to this.

Mind you, the sh*t storm is not as bad as it was 5 months ago, but it is still pretty bad.

Just go into the story discussion forum...then try playing the BSN drinking game - even now you may die of alcohol poisoning.

[MANINTHECREEK]

Nicsienieda wrote...

MANINTHECREEK wrote...

Im at least glad to see people posting on this subject still. I havent read deception for obvious reasons but am still happy to re-read the first three books for now untill pending announcement from BW. Also, Im pretty happy with the graphic novels which makes me stoked for the upcomming Homeworlds hardcover!

I thought they said it's not hardcover?

Ya they thier selling the pre-order of a collectors edition hard cover in the bioware store.  It would be cool if they looked at making post me3 comics.

[Snypy]

MANINTHECREEK wrote...

[...] It would be cool if they looked at making post me3 comics.

I think the ending of the game is a problem. It seems that BioWare cornered itself. You know, should the characters in the post ME3 comics be green or not green?

(typo)

Modifié par Snypy, 10 septembre 2012 - 12:35 .

[McAllyster]

Snypy wrote...

MANINTHECREEK wrote...

[...] It would be cool if they looked at making post me3 comics.

I think the ending of the game is a problem. It seems that BioWare cornered itself. You know, should the characters in the post ME3 comics be green or not green?

(typo)

Normal edition - not green.
Collector's edition - green.

Probllem solved.

Hmmmm, how many people will buy the Collector's edition? Mac and Casey, that's 2... maybe a dozen friends....

[Lookout1390]

Mass Effect Deception; The Extended Cut

I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit.

[CARL_DF90]

Bioware REALLY needs to say something about this and SOON! Oy. Have they learned nothing, or are they hard pressed to find a writer who actually knows what the hell he's doing?!

[voteDC]

I still can't believe that all the errors slipped through in the first place, as a licensed property wouldn't Bioware get a copy of the manuscript to check over?

[EatChildren]

I'm pretty confident a revision is never happening.

voteDC wrote...

I still can't believe that all the errors slipped through in the first place, as a licensed property wouldn't Bioware get a copy of the manuscript to check over?

They've silly retcons, contradictions and contrived lore/plot elements in their own mainline games. If they let those slip through, I can imagine it isn't too hard to have similarly and in some cases far worse errors slip through in expanded universe material from other publications.

[Rotacioskapa]

Why would anybody want to read that book anyway.

[PanzerGr3nadier]

Rotacioskapa wrote...

Why would anybody want to read that book anyway.

Perhaps someone, who has read the 3 previous books and e.g wants to know what happens to Gillian.

[Rotacioskapa]

PanzerGr3nadier wrote...

Rotacioskapa wrote...

Why would anybody want to read that book anyway.

Perhaps someone, who has read the 3 previous books and e.g wants to know what happens to Gillian.

But everybody says it's terrible and not just because of the lore breaking stuffs.

[PanzerGr3nadier]

Rotacioskapa wrote...

PanzerGr3nadier wrote...

Rotacioskapa wrote...

Why would anybody want to read that book anyway.

Perhaps someone, who has read the 3 previous books and e.g wants to know what happens to Gillian.

But everybody says it's terrible and not just because of the lore breaking stuffs.

Thats their opinion... I'll make my own if it ever comes out.

[wymm666]

Deception don't need to be republished. The entire story needs to be trashed and started over. A new Deception should have a completely new story that tie into ME3.

Tho, considering the kind of fan reception ME3 has gotten, and ME3 fans the biggest buyer of the potential new book, one has to wonder if Deception will EVER be fixed. Because it will likely not sell at all, so why waste the effort.

Yet it's also interesting how that was the attitude they had over the book, BEFORE ME3 even came out.

[Neizd]

Well...Deception needs to explain what happened to Gilian and what happened to Quarian ship that went in search of the new homeworld...the second is a big WTF since at the start of ME3 quarians are quite busy (No details, since spoilers are not allowed)

[JamesFaith]

voteDC wrote...

I still can't believe that all the errors slipped through in the first place, as a licensed property wouldn't Bioware get a copy of the manuscript to check over?

Three main problem here.

1. BW first time co-operated with freelancer, previous ME and DA books was written by their own writters. They simply underestimated situation or haven't "checking mechanism" prepared yet or both. 

2. They had a lot of work with finishing ME3. I doubt that anyone from core writters had time for proofreading. I know it from my own experience that at the final stage of some big project you are practically working from dusk to dawn with minimal free time. Casey probably only saw prolog and rest was "checked" by some assistant who epicly failed.

3. They hired Dietz - guy with one of greatest fluctuation of qualty of his books. Few days before releasing he was still claiming that he played all games, read all books and made tons of notions. It is quite possible that he also convinced his contact person with BW about it.
And we also surely know that he was writting book from his own universe at the same time as Deception and now everyone know which book was more important to him.

[Reuben702]

This is never going to happen is it?

[Demigod]

Cost to much with to little return imho no it wont happen.
BioWare need a continuity editor/s for their properties. If they already have one make them a fantasy writer and hire someone new

[Grubas]

Drew...

[Kub666]

As this thread has been created by Chris Priestly, it would be nice to get some comment from him on this. "We take you very seriously" he said in OP. Well...