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[LilyasAvalon]

It doesn't make a lot of sense that EA wouldn't want this feature implicated. Don't they want the best sort of publicity they can for Origin? Especially considering all the drama with Germany?

And if it's not EA, why doesn't Bioware want it?

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 08 février 2012 - 05:44 .

[CenturyCrow]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

While I appreciate Furtled's efforts, why didn't you just use the chat EA support? ._.

Furtled pointed that out with a link in her post (and I mentioned it in a follow up post). It's possible that Chat Support is being hacked... Which already undermines the poor reputation that EA support has recieved.

ironhammers.org/

[Dragoonlordz]

CenturyCrow wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

While I appreciate Furtled's efforts, why didn't you just use the chat EA support? ._.

Furtled pointed that out with a link in her post (and I mentioned it in a follow up post). It's possible that Chat Support is being hacked... Which already undermines the poor reputation that EA support has recieved.

ironhammers.org/

It's still just rumour though. Few people saying had it happen and few others saying they have heard of it happening.

I used just over week ago and my account hasn't been hacked (atleast not yet). 

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 08 février 2012 - 05:55 .

[dmex]

 

Dragoonlordz wrote...

dmex wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

What's the point in having a system such as Origin or Steam them if not to at least help you with saves and achievements then? ._.

Bioware, if I have to put up with Origin, I demand cloud storage!

Origin already supports cloud storage, though it's the publishers decision how they utilize it (e.g. game saves).

Publisher (EA) or Developer (Bioware)? For clarification because could of sworn you said developer in past.

Just so I can know who it is I need to ~wink, wink~nudge, nudge~ in the right direction for this additional feature.

Developer is the same as publisher, Bioware is the publisher of ME3. 

See reply below...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

It doesn't make a lot of sense that EA wouldn't want this feature implicated. Don't they want the best sort of publicity they can for Origin? Especially considering all the drama with Germany?

And if it's not EA, why doesn't Bioware want it?

If it makes sense to utilize this feature it would be the publishers choice depending on how the publisher (e.g. Bioware) chooses to implement game saves e.g. syncing to online profile directly or syncing a local file to the Origin cloud storage.

At the end of the day it's Bioware's decision if ME3 uses Origin cloud storage as they are the publisher. Questions about ME3 supporting Origin cloud sync for things like game saves should be directed to Chris and the Bioware team.  

[Sith_exar_kun]

I will purchase a retail version, then I will activate It trough Origin, I used to use Steam, in which I could easily change the Language to English (I hate Italian dub).

Will we be able to change the game language in Origin? Thanks a lot!

Modifié par Sith_exar_kun, 08 février 2012 - 06:34 .

[Furtled]

LilyasAvalon wrote...
While I appreciate Furtled's efforts, why didn't you just use the chat EA support? ._.

I have been for the past two weeks, sometimes you get better results by picking up a phone and talking to people.

And to clarify for other peeps, EA's chat support has not been hacked, people are simply contacting them claiming to own accounts they don't and stealing them by getting them reset to another email address (using information that is often freely available via a simple google search).

EDIT: In the interests of fact checking I went ahead and installed Origin on my machine (without any form of quarantine measures) and tried to figure out how someone would gain access to an account via support, best I can tell this isn't as clear cut as it first appears. Few other issues came up related to the EULA and privacy mind so I'll be updating my original Q&A post and my post over on the EA Forum; again I urge any one else with questions about Origin specifically to head over there and post in that thread.


@Dmex
I don't know if you're still reading this thread (and seriously, internet cookies to you if you are!) but on the off-chance you are could you shed any light on how Origin was able to pre-populate the login screen with my BSN login address if (as I understand it - I could be wrong) it doesn't scan outside it's own folder please?

Thanks!

Modifié par Furtled, 09 février 2012 - 01:23 .

[PaulSX]

Wardka wrote...

suntzuxi wrote...

I still dont get one thing: so if I only play single player game, do I still have to sign in to Origin every time I play or I can just run the game by itself after the initial activation?

You still have to run Origin every single time. ME3 won't run by itself. No one knows why.

OK, but as far as I am concerned, Origin can be run without internet connection. So again if I activated ME3 on Origin client once, then Can I run ME3 with Origin installed without internet connection? because I do not have internet at my work place.

[Dragoonlordz]

suntzuxi wrote...

Wardka wrote...

suntzuxi wrote...

I still dont get one thing: so if I only play single player game, do I still have to sign in to Origin every time I play or I can just run the game by itself after the initial activation?

You still have to run Origin every single time. ME3 won't run by itself. No one knows why.

OK, but as far as I am concerned, Origin can be run without internet connection. So again if I activated ME3 on Origin client once, then Can I run ME3 with Origin installed without internet connection? because I do not have internet at my work place.

As long as you have activated your game on it, the installed on machine you can continue to play game even when no internet connection. In otherwords activate it on machine then unplug internet cable and can still play game. Origin just starts up and runs in offline mode. I am 99% sure you will need to run once on (any) machine install on so it can activate or check it has been activated upon which it stores that in the client the answer and no need for internet connection after on that machine.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 08 février 2012 - 07:28 .

[Dragoonlordz]

dmex wrote...

 

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Publisher (EA) or Developer (Bioware)? For clarification because could of sworn you said developer in past.

Just so I can know who it is I need to ~wink, wink~nudge, nudge~ in the right direction for this additional feature.

Developer is the same as publisher, Bioware is the publisher of ME3. 

See reply below...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

It doesn't make a lot of sense that EA wouldn't want this feature implicated. Don't they want the best sort of publicity they can for Origin? Especially considering all the drama with Germany?

And if it's not EA, why doesn't Bioware want it?

If it makes sense to utilize this feature it would be the publishers choice depending on how the publisher (e.g. Bioware) chooses to implement game saves e.g. syncing to online profile directly or syncing a local file to the Origin cloud storage.

At the end of the day it's Bioware's decision if ME3 uses Origin cloud storage as they are the publisher. Questions about ME3 supporting Origin cloud sync for things like game saves should be directed to Chris and the Bioware team.  

Thanks for clearing it up by stating 'Bioware'. To me a developer means those who make the game while publisher is those that distribute it (bit of grey area in my rational being EA 'developed' Origin but to me they are still a publisher rather than developer personally. In this regard I always see Bioware as (only) developer and EA as (only) publisher. Hence the question. So to me when you say publisher you mean developer (imho), but atleast you said "Bioware" which is the answer I was looking for.

So I would like to ask Chris to speak with the ME3 team and see if possible to include or more accurately allow the use/implementation of cloud storage of save game data within Origin client please. It adds a feature which some us would like that is within the boundries or having the client already alongside ME3 in first place; so increases added benefit of Origin and detracts nothing from it.

From there I imagine the client itself will enable or have code added to turn on or off the client's own backing up of the Mass Effect 3 save games itself (locating or my loiely being told by user where save game directory is and periodoically making a copy to cloud) without Bioware needing to do much except give the go ahead for such a feature and ideally including retrospective for all previous Bioware titles like ME1 and 2 plus DA:O and 2 as well would be nice (in theory meaning no extra work for Bioware or patches needed by them apart from giving go ahead and asking for it to be put in place by the Origin team). The client should and would I imagine be the one 'backing up' the saves rather than ME3 game itself which will just save as normal.

A win:win situation from my point of view.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 09 février 2012 - 04:18 .

[Dragoonlordz]

Furtled wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...
While I appreciate Furtled's efforts, why didn't you just use the chat EA support? ._.

I have been for the past two weeks, sometimes you get better results by picking up a phone and talking to people.

And to clarify for other peeps, EA's chat support has not been hacked, people are simply contacting them claiming to own accounts they don't and stealing them by getting them reset to another email address (using information that is often freely available via a simple google search), I'm sad to say it isn't a rumour as the support guy confirmed it's a known issue affecting a fair number of customers. As user account security goes I'm kinda flabberghasted that it's that simple a thing to do, but there you go...

Question for anyone who does use Origin (or Dmex)
Something I didn't think of at the time: Can anyone confirm if Origin is set up for people to buy things through it using payment details stored in the system or is it more a double layer security set up that requires you re-enter payment details?

If it's the former that makes the sloppy security set-up slightly more troubling than I first thought

Not sure, I have bought products on it but I never store any credit card/debit card details with them. I always have preference for PayPal instead and never save the information to online retailers at all even clients (except PayPal account ofcourse which has it's own extra layer of security). 

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 08 février 2012 - 07:33 .

[DownyTif]

Stanley Woo wrote...

[As per Chris Priestly, such discussion is not permitted.]

??????????????????
I asked an honest question. Could you at least answer me in private?

[AngryFrozenWater]

This thread raises some questions about Origin. As a fan of the series I wish to buy ME3, but the controversial nature of the distribution platform makes me hesitate.

The original post claims that the software is not spyware. However, reading the EULA reveals that it does collect data. Software that does collect unknown data without my specific confirmation or consent is privacy-invasive software. It is obvious that EA gambles that most users are not interested in their privacy and consumer rights and that these consumers just don't read or understand the legal jargon. This one is interested. What data does Origin collect exactly, when and why? Where is it stored? Is the data transmitted over a secure connection? Who has access to it? Are other EA divisions considered third parties? Is there an opt-in (preferable) or an opt-out facility? If there are no such options, why not?

The fact that there are other systems like Steam which may or may not do the same is irrelevant, because Origin just adds another risk. As a user I would benefit if I had the option which platform to use. I rather keep using Steam than add more software that has the potential to violate my privacy and consumer rights. The EULA certainly gives me the impression that EA has all rights and the user absolutely none. This does not help to make me comfortable adopting Origin. Why does BW/EA feel that they have the right to use that approach?

If the software released on Origin requires it to run then this looks like an artificial construct to help justify the use of Origin. I believe the services provided by Origin are such constructs too and are only there to mask its two main purposes: Aggressive copy protection and competing with a company from which I am a customer (Steam). What the initial reason for banning Steam was, has become irrelevant as well, because, as mentioned earlier, it just adds another insecure application to my software collection: Origin. I now feel that if I want to buy future BW/EA games like ME3 that I am forced to use Origin. Why can't the problem that Steam and EA have not be resolved so that their customers can be better served without all this? A solution to the EA-Steam disagreement would make me feel I am not tricked into using Origin. As it stands now, I would rather not give in.

[BaronIveagh]

DownyTif wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

[As per Chris Priestly, such discussion is not permitted.]

??????????????????
I asked an honest question. Could you at least answer me in private?

Don't you know, questions are forbidden here unoless it's the question of is it possible for dragonlordz and Chris Preistly to be any more awesome, or Stan to be able ot edit seventy five posts a min?

Questioning Bioware is thoughtcrime.  Report to Minitruth.

[Furtled]

CenturyCrow wrote...
I may call EA support as well. From a security point of view, do I start a new account and disposable email address or will I be stuck with my existing account just to keep my current DLC from getting messed up?

Honestly from a security viewpoint you're better off having a different email/account for every service you use, that way if one gets compromised it can't affect anything else. The other main lesson here is if anyone does choose to use Origin on a shared machine, then make damn sure you shut it down/log out properly when you're finished.

Modifié par Furtled, 09 février 2012 - 12:14 .

[Dragoonlordz]

BaronIveagh wrote...

DownyTif wrote...

-snip-

Don't you know, questions are forbidden here unoless it's the question of is it possible for dragoonlordz and Chris Preistly to be any more awesome, or Stan to be able ot edit seventy five posts a min? 


Questioning Bioware is thoughtcrime.  Report to Minitruth. 

No, we are quite awesome I have to admit. Creative editing for the win. <3

She/he had the response already to his/her question. The answer was Bioware does not wish discussion about that subject on here and they do not support it. The answer was only a couple pages back was not hard to miss but just incase here she/he can read it all over again instead of pretending it never got answered.

Chris Priestly wrote...

We do not allow discussion of Sandboxie here on these forums. Customers may investigate using it themselves, but we do not support this program.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 09 février 2012 - 03:09 .

[Zhijn]

Im alittle bummed out it wont be there for Steam, but will go with the flow for this one game.

Tho im confused with the "steam+which limit how developers interact with customers" quote. Skyrims new toolkit + the new mod/dlc page on steam begs to differ. So well yeah, that confuses me abit and in all honest sounds like some bad excuse to use Origin tbh.

Modifié par Zhijn, 09 février 2012 - 02:25 .

[DownyTif]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

BaronIveagh wrote...

DownyTif wrote...

-snip-

Don't you know, questions are forbidden here unoless it's the question of ]is it possible for dragonlordz and Chris Preistly to be any more awesome, or Stan to be able ot edit seventy five posts a min?

Questioning Bioware is thoughtcrime.  Report to Minitruth.

Creative editing for the win. <3

She/he had the response already to his/her question. The answer was Bioware does not wish discussion about that subject on here and they do not support it. The answer was only a couple pages back was not hard to miss but just incase here she/he can read it all over again instead of pretending it never got answered.

Chris Priestly wrote...

We do not allow discussion of Sandboxie here on these forums. Customers may investigate using it themselves, but we do not support this program.

Thanks Dragon. I missed it indeed. I've read a LOT of pages and wrote a LOT of replies on the crazy amount of threads created on that topic, but yeah, sometime I miss something. Oh and it's a he

So in other words, they do not support it here (obvious) but it's not illegal and people won't get banned. That's what I wanted to know.

[Dragoonlordz]

DownyTif wrote...

Thanks Dragon. I missed it indeed. I've read a LOT of pages and wrote a LOT of replies on the crazy amount of threads created on that topic, but yeah, sometime I miss something. Oh and it's a he

So in other words, they do not support it here (obvious) but it's not illegal and people won't get banned. That's what I wanted to know.

Okay no problem, if honestly missed it then glad I could help. You can discuss it on the EA forums I guess (maybe) or go look around the net for yourself like Chris stated but you can't talk about it on here and they don't support it themselves.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 09 février 2012 - 02:37 .

[BaronIveagh]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

No, we are quite awesome in our own minds I have to admit. Creative deleting people's posts to prevent discussion for the win. <3

Fixed that for you.

[Dragoonlordz]

BaronIveagh wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

-snip-

Fixed that for you.

I did not change your words I merely highlighted some and faded the others, your post still exists in it's full sarcastic content only with pretty yellow lettering.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 09 février 2012 - 03:14 .

[Metalrocks]

Zhijn wrote...

Im alittle bummed out it wont be there for Steam, but will go with the flow for this one game.

Tho im confused with the "steam+which limit how developers interact with customers" quote. Skyrims new toolkit + the new mod/dlc page on steam begs to differ. So well yeah, that confuses me abit and in all honest sounds like some bad excuse to use Origin tbh.

you will find your answer on page 11.
€A claims that steam terms regarding DLCs has changed and €A doesnt agree with it, wile other companies have no problem what so ever with steam/valve.
thats pretty much €As excuse to force people to use origin.

but me and many others think, that valve simply dint agree with origin due the data collecting problem. since it states clearly in the EULA that origin does collect data.

[MEPH1ST0UK1]

What about if i install it on laptop, and use said laptop to acitvate it.. and then install it on a pc.. would i have to activate it on the pc ? (ie, activating it a second time) Oh, and to clarify.. the pc would NOT have an internet connection... would this scenario still work ?

[CenturyCrow]

MEPH1ST0UK1 wrote...

What about if i install it on laptop, and use said laptop to acitvate it.. and then install it on a pc.. would i have to activate it on the pc ? (ie, activating it a second time) Oh, and to clarify.. the pc would NOT have an internet connection... would this scenario still work ?

Any PC you install it on will get you the curse of Origin, whether you like it or not, whether you agree with it or not. Since your PC doesn't have an Internet connection, you're stuck because it won't get the one time authentification it needs. You'll need to connect the PC at least once or any other machine you install it on. Sort of like having to take medicine even if you're not sick.

[craigdolphin]

@Furtled. +10 internet cookies. Nice to hear the forum banning thing is confirmed fixed from another source.

Now, if a proper opt-out happens in time, I'll consider buying ME3 new. If not....not.

I guess no-one at the EA forums is bothering to monitor or respond to the other thread. Why aren't I surprised?

[Dragoonlordz]

MEPH1ST0UK1 wrote...

What about if i install it on laptop, and use said laptop to acitvate it.. and then install it on a pc.. would i have to activate it on the pc ? (ie, activating it a second time) Oh, and to clarify.. the pc would NOT have an internet connection... would this scenario still work ?

You will need to (one time) connect to authorise/activate on any machine you install it on.

It will say on box requires an internet connection for activation purpose in order to play so if you buy it and ignore that which will be written clearly on the back of the very box you just bought, then you only have yourself to blame. Just like it said the same on both ME1 and ME2 boxes and ME3 won't be any different in that regard.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 09 février 2012 - 05:53 .