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Edit: This is not an ME3 related question. Stay on topic or go the the EA forums to discuss Origin :devil:

Wow, I could not have formulated a question MORE about ME3 and Origin and it still got deleted as being off topic. 

Anyone else get the feeling that Chris is just deleting questions he doesn't want to answer?


Given the recent flurry over Google, and the US Congress current knee jerk reaction, it's not an unfair assesment that they're probably going to roll out a half baked badly thought out law against datamining, which seems to be the point of Origin as far as EA is concerened.

If such a law does in fact get passed, will EA be releaseing a ME3 patch to remove Origin or will they simply transfer the TOS to state that the laws of some other country will be those that govern the TOS?

Or will they just turn it off and tell us all to buy a new copy of the game without DRM?

Modifié par BaronIveagh, 05 février 2012 - 06:17 .


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Chris Priestly wrote...

Edit: This is not an ME3 related question. Stay on topic or go the the EA forums to discuss Origin :devil:


You just deleted  BaronIveagh question, what the exit plan by EA is, when their servers get shut down and what will happen to his ME3 game which he may paid like 80$ + 250$ in DLC for? How is this not ME3 related?

Then again you do not delete lies and misinformation by user Wolfsite one page back that are not related to ME3 but replies to it. Whats going on?

Modifié par Pupuppu, 04 février 2012 - 03:38 .


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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Rotkaepchen wrote...

Mr.
Priestly, with all due respect, you may want to stop flattering people
who back you up and start answearing some serious questions, like
"What does Origin add to the ME3 experience from the player's point of view? I
understand
how data collection benefits EA, but does this forced service actually
add anything to the single-player game experience for us?". Sorry, but
no smiley here.


Question was originally posed with the added mention of asking for no marketing speak, well if don't want marketing speak then it's a question for the players not the company at that stage.

As
a player who uses it and already answered this myself, how I have
preference for the Origin client over Steam regarding resources used and
speed of both download and application itself, I use both. I prefer
getting my titles through digital distribution instead of having shelves
full of cd's, dvd's and blu-ray's which to be honest is quite annoying
these days. I have friends on both clients and talk to them and the only
thing I would like more so with Origin which believe will come over
time is more titles, more sales and lastly few more features but the
client itself is good imho better than steams client and I prefer to use
clients than retail to keep my games organised and stored as well as
way to avoid annoying issues of lost or scratched discs. The no client
option for purpose of DD which already stated prefer myself over retail,
is not as good because it requires me to remember over a dozen
passwords and usernames for each D2D, GoG, Gamersgate, Impulse, Amazon
and many more. A client or in my case two clients is better for me in
this regard.

That‘s all very interesting, provided that you are already interested in using a DD in the first place; something that, I suspect, is not the case of many of those that  choose to buy the physical copy.

 And that is the key problem; Origin was meant first to answer EA’s aspirations and second to focus on those players that do care about DD. But, It is also being imposed on those that are just interested in buying a physical copy in the first place and playing ME3 offline; for those what is the advantage of Origin?

Now, I can understand why EA wish to start ME3 through Origin, even if it doesn’t benefit the gamer; but once it is launched in offline single-player, what is the point of keeping Origin working in the background, consuming resources? Even for EA? What impact will Origin have in lower-end machines performance? I wonder.

Personally, as a gamer,  it just seems so pointless; a hassle really. As I don’t buy games online or play multi-player, I certainly don’t see most of what you point out as advantages; and even the ability of downloading a scratched disk content, (a very rare event to begin with), does not justify having an application like Origin always on during game-time, consuming machine resources, for no apparent reason, or gain.

It seems to me that, likely the powers that b at EA, in their eagerness to embrace a brave new world of DD are just failing to realize the pointlessness of their product for a significant part of their consumer base:

 It is pointless to make Origin mandatory if the consumer is not interested in using in the first place. It just annoys the consumer that has to deal with a beta, not fully stable and/or is concerned with his security/privacy, without providing return to EA or added value to the customer.

 Not a good way of doing business.:?

Modifié par vallore, 04 février 2012 - 03:53 .


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Chris Priestly wrote...

Edit: This is not an ME3 related question. Stay on topic or go the the EA forums to discuss Origin :devil:


What?  Really? You've just deleted almost half a page of user posts criticising the use of Origin in Mass Effect 3 and kept whatever trace of verbage supporting it. 

First off, most people are talking about Origin because it has to do with Mass Effect 3.  It might not be a "question," per say, but that wasn't the original rule you pointed out at the start of the many posts about Origin anyways.  You conveniently changed it by locking another thread and starting a new one.  It was a discussion about Origin, and it has everything to do with Mass Effect 3.  If you don't like what you read, then just don't read it, but don't go out blocking out everything your concerned customers are pointing out to you.  No one is stopping you from doing it, and it is your forum and your right, but it also makes one suspect what the agenda is.  Some people spend time typing out their thoughts so that such may be recognized or heard. 

If you think some of the posts here are misinformed, then be a little assertive and shed a little transparency.  Last but not least, show a little respect, please.

Edit: The other thing to note is that thread on the Origin discussion forum.  Thus far, there have only been three posts, full of questions but no answers.  It doesn't look like a very open-ended thread on the otherside.  Let people discuss this here, because again, it has everything to do with Mass Effect 3. 

Modifié par MingWolf, 04 février 2012 - 05:26 .


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Chris Priestly wrote...

This thread is for people to ask questions about Origin and how it will work with Mass Effect 3.

For questions or discussion about Origin as a service, please use this thread on the EA Origin discussion forum.
Please continue to use this thread for Mass Effect 3 related Origin
questions and use the EA Origin forum thread to discuss Origin issues or
questions. The Origin team will work to help with Origin questions
while the Mass Effect 3 team will continue to work on Mass Effect 3
related questions.

Below are answers to the most commonly asked questions about Origin and Mass Effect 3.

1) Will Origin be a requirement to play all versions of Mass Effect 3? (Digital and/or from a retail brick and mortar store)

Yes, Origin is required for all PC editions of Mass Effect 3, physical or digital.
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3) Is Origin required for the retail versions of the game?

Origin is required for the PC versions of Mass Effect 3, both physical and digital.


Chris Priestly wrote...

Edit: This is not an ME3 related question. Stay on topic or go the the EA forums to discuss Origin :devil:



Origin is a requirement for ME3 so how is discussing Origin not ME3 related?  They are not separate discussions because Origin isn't an optional service. I understand that you say that they are 2 different topics but in reality they are very much connected to each other.  If your company wants to make it 2 different issues then don't make it a requirement for the game you are putting out.

I have another question though...

What files and folders (specifically) will ME3/Origin need access to in order to run properly? Both in single player and multiplayer.

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Annnnnd Origin is down.

Origin Outage Info - Updated: 2/3/2012

We are aware of a current outage that may affect the following Origin services:

Slow Client Launch times
Login Issues
Games not displaying properly
Download Issues
Activation and Game Licensing issues
Origin Store Purchasing Issues

We are working to fix this issue as quickly as possible. Your Origin client and games will go back to normal once we have everything fixed on our end.



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Will Origin be more reliable in the future because there are a lot of reports of problems with activation servers for BF3 and since ME3 is fast approaching I'm curious if any of those issues got addressed?

Modifié par chance52, 04 février 2012 - 06:07 .


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Guys I appreciate everyone's hacked off about this but yelling at Chris = not constructive.

Origin is an EA product, not BioWare, so any information Chris has is already up there, if anything posting here probably takes longer to get answers because Chris will have to go to EA then come back and report whatever they come back with (although I suppose it's a sort of back-handed compliment for BioWare's customer relations being better than EAs since peeps are more confident of getting a response here).

I've posted in the EA thread, I urge others to do the same, it's harder for EA to ignore people if they're posting outside BSN; I also urge peeps to send letters or emails about their concerns to both Electronic Arts and consumer advocacy groups like The ECA and OFT (and cancel pre-orders if they want); that's the only way you're likely to get anything changed.

To peeps worried about getting banned/losing game access for posting about Origin on the EA forums, consider this. It's unlikely to happen but if it did the gaming press would be down on EA like a ton of bricks (as would more traditional media), I don't think that's something EA would want.

@Chris Priestly
All that said I am a little disappointed that this thread isn't stickied - peeps have as much of a right to be aware of Origin and the issues around it as they do to know demo information. I don't think it's a deliberate thing but it does come off as a little shady. :unsure:

Modifié par Furtled, 04 février 2012 - 07:56 .


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In the case of the Origin authentication server going offline, becoming unserviceable, or otherwise being removed from the Internet, what are Electronic Arts' or Bioware's plans to allow purchasers of the Mass Effect 3 game to remain able to install and play Mass Effect 3?

And do not reply with 'We're not going anywhere any time soon." This is a non-answer; an answer that does not address the question.

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Edit: Post removed. Stay on topic. :devil:

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 04 février 2012 - 10:19 .


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Edit: Post rmeoved. Stay on topic. :devil:

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 04 février 2012 - 10:20 .


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Balls - I have no idea what happened there. Move along, nothing to see. :whistle:

Modifié par Furtled, 04 février 2012 - 07:19 .


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Edit: Post removed. :devil:

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 04 février 2012 - 10:20 .


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I have a question: was Origin designed and implemented in an attempt to stop piracy?

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chance52 wrote...

Annnnnd Origin is down.

Origin Outage Info - Updated: 2/3/2012

We are aware of a current outage that may affect the following Origin services:

Slow Client Launch times
Login Issues
Games not displaying properly
Download Issues
Activation and Game Licensing issues
Origin Store Purchasing Issues

We are working to fix this issue as quickly as possible. Your Origin client and games will go back to normal once we have everything fixed on our end.



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Will Origin be more reliable in the future because there are a lot of reports of problems with activation servers for BF3 and since ME3 is fast approaching I'm curious if any of those issues got addressed?


... and, as per bluesnews.com the €A forum has been hacked - AGAIN.

It seems to me that the way this thread is moderated fits how €A treats its (paying) customers.

Modifié par Rotkaepchen, 04 février 2012 - 09:59 .


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Furtled wrote...
Origin is an EA product, not BioWare


Bioware = EA. The doctors said so themselfs in an interview some time ago.

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Edit: Post removed. Stay on topic. :devil:

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Pupuppu wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Edit: This is not an ME3 related question. Stay on topic or go the the EA forums to discuss Origin :devil:


You just deleted  BaronIveagh question, what the exit plan by EA is, when their servers get shut down and what will happen to his ME3 game which he may paid like 80$ + 250$ in DLC for? How is this not ME3 related?

Then again you do not delete lies and misinformation by user Wolfsite one page back that are not related to ME3 but replies to it. Whats going on?


Every bit of information I have posted is either from personal experience or from data and information collected from several sources on the internet.  So don't you DARE call me a liar.

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Edit: Post removed. No name calling here. :devil:

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 05 février 2012 - 12:14 .


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Edit: Post removed since quote was removed. :devil:

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I asked about when an Official Patch for Mass Effect 3 that removes Origin Requirement will be released. How's that not on topic?

You could have answered "never", "no idea", "keep on dreaming", whatever but deleting the post and saying "This is not an ME3 related question"? Really?!!!

I bet such Patch will be released for ME3, eventually.

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Edit: Post removed. Stay on topic. :devil:

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DragonRageGT wrote...

I asked about when an Official Patch for Mass Effect 3 that removes Origin Requirement will be released. How's that not on topic?

You could have answered "never", "no idea", "keep on dreaming", whatever but deleting the post and saying "This is not an ME3 related question"? Really?!!!

I bet such Patch will be released for ME3, eventually.


Ok. No, there are no plans for a patch to remove Origin. Sorry for not answering previously.



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Edit: Post rmoved. If you have a question for me about another poster, please send me a PM. :devil:

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 05 février 2012 - 03:49 .


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Edit: Post removed. Stay on topic. :devil:

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Edit: Post removed. Stay on topic. :devil:

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