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[chengthao]

I was playing ME2 last night and i noticed that the debris from the destroyed Normandy landed inthe same star cluster where Omega is . . . so my question is, what was Commander Shepard doing in the Terminus System? clearly the Council Species Military isn't welcomed out there, let alone a Spectre, so what reason would Commander Shepard have to be out there? to investigate missing ships, doesn't really make any sense since its out in the Terminus Systems and not in Council or Alliance Space . . . plus its not like on the border of the Terminus Systems, its right in the middle of the Terminus Systems, next to the "capital" of the Terminus . . . why go out that far just to investigate missing ships when your main concern should be in Council Space

[Adugan]

Because Omega is actually a Collector ship and the Normandy crash site is a disturbance in the force that is a homing beacon for the Reapers. Also, Prothean ghosts live beyond the Omega 4 Relay.

[tetrisblock4x1]

Because Shepard.

[Epsilon330]

They were hunting Geth, which don't normally operate in Alliance/Council Space. The Terminus is closer to the Perseus Veil than Sol and Widow.

[Arkitekt]

They were hunting geth in a system where some ships were missing. Presley thought those missing ships were due to slavers. Op, you say you were playing me2, did you even bothered to listen to the very first minutes of the intro before wasting our time?

[chengthao]

Arkitekt wrote...

They were hunting geth in a system where some ships were missing. Presley thought those missing ships were due to slavers. Op, you say you were playing me2, did you even bothered to listen to the very first minutes of the intro before wasting our time?

why investigate missing ships in the Terminus Systems? remember in ME1 when Garroth talks about his missing brother's ship, he sayd ships go missing all the time . . . so why investigate in the Terminus Systems? Why risk all-out war with them by sending an Alliance military vessel and a Council Spectre just to investigate missing ships? that happens all the time according to Garroth . . . there isn't more pressing matters in Council Space? Why not investigate missing ships in the Attican Traverse since it borders the Terminus System? Why go that deep into the Terminus System?

[Epsilon330]

chengthao wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

They were hunting geth in a system where some ships were missing. Presley thought those missing ships were due to slavers. Op, you say you were playing me2, did you even bothered to listen to the very first minutes of the intro before wasting our time?

why investigate missing ships in the Terminus Systems? remember in ME1 when Garroth talks about his missing brother's ship, he sayd ships go missing all the time . . . so why investigate in the Terminus Systems? Why risk all-out war with them by sending an Alliance military vessel and a Council Spectre just to investigate missing ships? that happens all the time according to Garroth . . . there isn't more pressing matters in Council Space? Why not investigate missing ships in the Attican Traverse since it borders the Terminus System? Why go that deep into the Terminus System?

Because the Alliace was looking for an excuse to hunt Geth. None of them had been located in the Traverse, and slavery was most profilic in the Terminus, so that would give them a better excuse.

[chengthao]

Arkitekt wrote...

They were hunting geth in a system where some ships were missing. Presley thought those missing ships were due to slavers. Op, you say you were playing me2, did you even bothered to listen to the very first minutes of the intro before wasting our time?

maybe you need to reread the question . . . i clearly talked about the missing ships and how it made no sense . . . make sure you have a competent reading level before criticising others

[Descy_]

Doesnt this belong in ME2 forums?

[chengthao]

Epsilon330 wrote...

Because the Alliace was looking for an excuse to hunt Geth. None of them had been located in the Traverse, and slavery was most profilic in the Terminus, so that would give them a better excuse.

they weren't sent in to investigate slavers, they were sent to investigate Geth . . . also if the council or alliance wanted to end slavery, they're not going to send in one ship . . . they already know slavery exists, so why would they need to investigate it? why investigate ships that go missing in the Terminus Systems? why not investigate ships that go missing in Council space?

[Epsilon330]

chengthao wrote...

Epsilon330 wrote...

Because the Alliace was looking for an excuse to hunt Geth. None of them had been located in the Traverse, and slavery was most profilic in the Terminus, so that would give them a better excuse.

they weren't sent in to investigate slavers, they were sent to investigate Geth . . . also if the council or alliance wanted to end slavery, they're not going to send in one ship . . . they already know slavery exists, so why would they need to investigate it? why investigate ships that go missing in the Terminus Systems? why not investigate ships that go missing in Council space?

The prologue explains all your questions. The Normandy SR1 was part of a massive Heretic Geth cleanup operation that took place 2 months after ME1. No ships were disappearing in Alliance and Council space thanks to increased security and Anti-Slaving laws. The Terminus was the only local System-Network that didn't adhere to these changes.
Due to it being Batarian-riddled, slavery was rife, and that meant a lot of disappearing ships. In other words, a lot of potential Geth-attacks, as far as the Alliance was concerned.
If you listen to the prologue, it, Joker, and Pressly mention numerous times that they're out to get Geth, not slavers.

Read the wiki or play the game before making these questions.

[chengthao]

Epsilon330 wrote...

The prologue explains all your questions. The Normandy SR1 was part of a massive Heretic Geth cleanup operation that took place 2 months after ME1. No ships were disappearing in Alliance and Council space thanks to increased security and Anti-Slaving laws. The Terminus was the only local System-Network that didn't adhere to these changes.
Due to it being Batarian-riddled, slavery was rife, and that meant a lot of disappearing ships. In other words, a lot of potential Geth-attacks, as far as the Alliance was concerned.
If you listen to the prologue, it, Joker, and Pressly mention numerous times that they're out to get Geth, not slavers.

Read the wiki or play the game before making these questions.

it makes no sense, the Council or Alliance isn't going to care what's going on in the Terminus, that's why the only mission that takes place in the Terminus Systems in ME1 is Ilos

why waste resources and a Spectre to investigate missing ships? there aren't more pressing concerns in Council Space?

and increased security? ummmm . . . what did TIM say about the Alliance? oh right, they're rebuilding because they lost so many ships due to Sovereign's attack on the Citadel, that's why they don't care about the missing colonists . . . and i'm pretty sure the Turians, Asari, Salarians (who suffered the most casualties during the Battle of the Citadel) are also rebuilding their ships and forces, hell two years later and the Alliance is still re-building, how strong do you think the Alliance is after two months?

Modifié par chengthao, 04 février 2012 - 01:44 .

[Cyberstrike nTo]

chengthao wrote...

Epsilon330 wrote...

The prologue explains all your questions. The Normandy SR1 was part of a massive Heretic Geth cleanup operation that took place 2 months after ME1. No ships were disappearing in Alliance and Council space thanks to increased security and Anti-Slaving laws. The Terminus was the only local System-Network that didn't adhere to these changes.
Due to it being Batarian-riddled, slavery was rife, and that meant a lot of disappearing ships. In other words, a lot of potential Geth-attacks, as far as the Alliance was concerned.
If you listen to the prologue, it, Joker, and Pressly mention numerous times that they're out to get Geth, not slavers.

Read the wiki or play the game before making these questions.

it makes no sense, the Council or Alliance isn't going to care what's going on in the Terminus, that's why the only mission that takes place in the Terminus Systems in ME1 is Ilos

why waste resources and a Spectre to investigate missing ships? there aren't more pressing concerns in Council Space?

and increased security? ummmm . . . what did TIM say about the Alliance? oh right, they're rebuilding because they lost so many ships due to Sovereign's attack on the Citadel, that's why they don't care about the missing colonists . . . and i'm pretty sure the Turians, Asari, Salarians (who suffered the most casualties during the Battle of the Citadel) are also rebuilding their ships and forces, hell two years later and the Alliance is still re-building, how strong do you think the Alliance is after two months?

THEY WERE HUNTING GETH!! The looking for slavers was a cover story.

[GnusmasTHX]

First of all, you should know that the Terminus isn't a body of government. It is a designation of the part of the galaxy that is not under Council control and where the Council has little to no influence. Are there armies within the Terminus? Yes. Do they "police" the Terminus like you're expecting? No. It isn't that one side of the Milky Way is Council government controlled and the other side is Terminus government controlled. It's one side is the Council, and the other side is a bunch of dissident groups under no banner but their own, but are likely to ally with each other against the Council under the mutual interest of autonomy.

More over, the reason Shepard is allowed into the Terminus is precisely because he is a Spectre in a single ship. If you play ME1, the Council tells you outright that they cannot send a fleet after Saren because a large force of arms would alarm the groups within the Terminus and cause them to rally against the Council. A single ship, however, could be discrete, and if not completely undetected, can be overlooked because it's just one ship.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 04 février 2012 - 01:50 .

[chengthao]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

THEY WERE HUNTING GETH!! The looking for slavers was a cover story.

so all Geth were eliminated in Council Space? then why does Anderson say in ME2 that they're still fighting Geth? why would the Alliance or Council care about what's going on in the Terminus Systems when they still have problems in Council Space?

[GnusmasTHX]

chengthao wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

THEY WERE HUNTING GETH!! The looking for slavers was a cover story.

so all Geth were eliminated in Council Space? then why does Anderson say in ME2 that they're still fighting Geth? why would the Alliance or Council care about what's going on in the Terminus Systems when they still have problems in Council Space?

Really? The geth just attacked the seat of Council government.

I think you're just being intetionally dense, now.

Most of ME1 and ME2 took place in non-Council space. They have no problem with Shepard being anywhere.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 04 février 2012 - 01:56 .

[chengthao]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

THEY WERE HUNTING GETH!! The looking for slavers was a cover story.

so all Geth were eliminated in Council Space? then why does Anderson say in ME2 that they're still fighting Geth? why would the Alliance or Council care about what's going on in the Terminus Systems when they still have problems in Council Space?

Really? The geth just attacked the seat of Council government.

I think you're just being intetionally dense, now.

clearly there are still geth forces out in Council Space . . . hence Anderson saying that when an enclave is discovered they send in a squad to destroy them . . . plus how do we know that the Geth attacked with all their forces, how do we know that some didn't retreat?

it's logical to assume that not all Geth forces were destroyed and since the Geth are logical, they're not going to just sit there and be destroyed when they know that they've lost the battle

[chengthao]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

Most of ME1 and ME2 took place in non-Council space. They have no problem with Shepard being anywhere.

no almost all of ME1 takes place in Council space, the Attican Traverse is Council Space, the only time your not there is when you go to Ilos, and in ME2, if you killed the council, guess what, your not a Spectre plus even if you save them, they may re-instate you but they don't vouch for your activities, in other words they're not publicly supporting or approving your actions as they would other Spectres (even if they don't agree with their methods)

[GnusmasTHX]

That's why they're hunting them down...

By reinstating you they're supporting you. That's why they do it. 

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 04 février 2012 - 02:03 .

[chengthao]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

That's why they're hunting them down...

but apparently they don't care about hunting down the ones still in Council space

[GnusmasTHX]

chengthao wrote...

GnusmasTHX wrote...

That's why they're hunting them down...

but apparently they don't care about hunting down the ones still in Council space

You think Shepard is the only one hunting down geth? They can do so on multiple fronts.

[SojournerN7]

The council has no jurisdiction in the Terminus systems. Thats why the sent a stealth equipped Normandy into the Terminus systems so that they could both avoid conflict with the Terminus factions and quell any remaining Geth resistance.

The 'missing ships' that Presley refers to is just a lead on Geth Activity.

Normandy isn't the only ship in the universe. The Council has an entire fleet comprised from the mostly the Turian and Alliance fleets that can patrol council space.

[Epsilon330]

I think this thread should be marked for spam now. He's either never played ME2, a troll, or just really, really ignorant.
You asked us to answer your question, and we did. Just because it isn't the answer you wanted doesn't mean it's wrong.

[chengthao]

GnusmasTHX wrote...

You think Shepard is the only one hunting down geth? They can do so on multiple fronts.

why the Terminus? by this point in the timeline, the Alliance has already disavowed the Reaper threat, that's why Miranda and TIM are upset at the beginning of the game because the Alliance is sending Shepard after Geth . . . so why send him/her into the Terminus, the Alliance and Council don't care about what goes on there, they have more to worry about than what's going on in the Terminus Systems

[GnusmasTHX]

Because the geth are in the Terminus.