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Will any squadmates have total plot armor?


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CerberusSoldier wrote...

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The BSN is all about kissing the butts of the VS?

I think we are posting on different forums here.

  


well of course a VS fan would say that 


Nah, you're just trying to hard to troll lol. I can name about 5 characters that seem to be more popular on this form than either VS.

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I'm not really a VS fan. Really, I like almost all of the characters.

But Mordin is the best. This has been proven by science.

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Last I checked the polls, Wrex, Tali, and Garrus are the most popular. Jacob is the least popular. VS are somewhere in between.

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Are those five characters:
- Conrad Verner
- Blasto the Hanar Spectre
- Refund Guy
- Niftu Cal
- Shisk

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Are those five characters:
- Conrad Verner
- Blasto the Hanar Spectre
- Refund Guy
- Niftu Cal
- Shisk


I can name more than 5 but here are 5 off the top of my head

~ Miranda
~ Garrus
~ Tali
~ Liara
~ Mordin

All of these characters are either up there in terms of fans... or they have larger fanbases.

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You know, I'm beginning to feel really disappointed. I like Bioware games because of their story and customization, and that means the relationships we can procure with the characters. We can like, dislike, agree and don't agree with them, that's always make me feel like I'm in control. But to be honest, since LOTSB, Liara is starting to become forced on me. Not enough that to keep her in the plot, she has to take the SB resources, now I'm almost forced to be her friend.

The VS, I know we can still tell to get off the ship and even kill him/her in ME3, but Liara will remain there, unkillable.

The same old argument that a lot of people like to put: we're trolling, we're haters and everything. What does it matter to you the way I want to play my game? I'm not asking the devs to remove friendship or romance with these characters. I'm asking them to give us the choice to more freedom with the relationships of Shepard, that's all.

I really hope the game will end up being different than what we are hearing out there. Because if I'm forced friends with anyone, not just Liara, I will end up killing Shepard in ME2 and be done with this series for good.
I'm waiting the release to see if it really have our RPG back to buy it.

I know there's a lot of people in these forums that have these concerns as well.

Modifié par FryPanNN, 04 février 2012 - 08:07 .


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Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

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I hope Liara has plot armor if nothing else to annoy the Liara haters who whine about her plot armor.


3 Words came to mind after reading this sentence.

Well, don't be shy; tell us what they are!

Could they be :"oh hell yes!"?

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The one thing I've learned from BSN is that if you don't play the game my way, then you can just go straight to hell.

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CerberusSoldier wrote...

I am only the worst because I am not a VS butt kisser which BSN is all about . As well very out spoken about some things Bioware have done . nah I am never going to drink the VS kool aid or the oh ME is so freaking awesome juices . I am glad I can put a end to the VS in 3 . they should have both died in ME 1 . And certainly should have gotten destroyed for their attitude in 2


What forum are you on dude. Its Tali/Miranda that get most attention, though I dont know why they ar awful.

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CaptainHydra wrote...

I know Wrex doesn't have plot armour because..... let's be honest, it's Wrex - only Shepard is allowed to kill him and that was a once in a life-time opportunity.


or have ashley kill him.  either way...why kill wrex off... so you can hang out with Wreav?

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shenlonzero wrote...

CaptainHydra wrote...

I know Wrex doesn't have plot armour because..... let's be honest, it's Wrex - only Shepard is allowed to kill him and that was a once in a life-time opportunity.


or have ashley kill him.  either way...why kill wrex off... so you can hang out with Wreav?


My point was that Wrex is so good that the plot can't touch him unless Shepard wills it so.

Modifié par CaptainHydra, 04 février 2012 - 08:32 .


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Exia001 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

I am only the worst because I am not a VS butt kisser which BSN is all about . As well very out spoken about some things Bioware have done . nah I am never going to drink the VS kool aid or the oh ME is so freaking awesome juices . I am glad I can put a end to the VS in 3 . they should have both died in ME 1 . And certainly should have gotten destroyed for their attitude in 2


What forum are you on dude. Its Tali/Miranda that get most attention, though I dont know why they ar awful.

I don't even know why you would respond to Cerberus Warrior. He acts like this regardless of whether it sounds reasonable or not.

Modifié par jreezy, 04 février 2012 - 08:33 .


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Sorry but who cares about plot armor in a trilogy finale? It's not like anyone carries over anywhere. It's the end of story for every teammate, dead or alive :)

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i figured out how you can kill the VS I bet there is choice between having Vega pilot the shuttle that crushes into the Cerberus one or you can have the VS do it

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Arppis wrote...Liara with ease.


This.

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jreezy wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

I am only the worst because I am not a VS butt kisser which BSN is all about . As well very out spoken about some things Bioware have done . nah I am never going to drink the VS kool aid or the oh ME is so freaking awesome juices . I am glad I can put a end to the VS in 3 . they should have both died in ME 1 . And certainly should have gotten destroyed for their attitude in 2


What forum are you on dude. Its Tali/Miranda that get most attention, though I dont know why they ar awful.

I don't even know why you would respond to Cerberus Warrior. He acts like this regardless of whether it sounds reasonable or not.



Well look at his screen name.  He is one of them.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

I am only the worst because I am not a VS butt kisser which BSN is all about . As well very out spoken about some things Bioware have done . nah I am never going to drink the VS kool aid or the oh ME is so freaking awesome juices . I am glad I can put a end to the VS in 3 . they should have both died in ME 1 . And certainly should have gotten destroyed for their attitude in 2


What forum are you on dude. Its Tali/Miranda that get most attention, though I dont know why they ar awful.

I don't even know why you would respond to Cerberus Warrior. He acts like this regardless of whether it sounds reasonable or not.



Well look at his screen name.  He is one of them.


I appreciate that statement.  

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If I were Bioware I would have slapped a plot armor of sorts on Liara. I'd still have her be killable, but only in a non-canon playthroughs where Shepard's entire team wipes or the Reapers win. As a young member of a species that lives for well over a thousand years,  and as the Shadowbroker, she'd be the perfect choice to have return in a Flemeth role if there is ever a Mass Effect IV. Since Mass Effect IV would have a new protagonist, she'd be the perfect choice to tie both storylines together.

Or alternatively, I'd have her be killable in all playthroughs but have it be a decision that has repurcussions in ME IV. A living Liara is Shadowbroker and an ally of sorts of your ME IV protagonist. If she's dead, someone else is SB and is either neutral or hostile towards you.

That is of course assuming that she remains the Shadowbroker. Without SB status, there would be no reason for her to return.

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I would not have made Liarra a useable character except on one mission or two. I value her use as an intel source, the same way I valued EDI being an Operator and management specialist in ME 2.

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mrsph wrote...

I'm not really a VS fan. Really, I like almost all of the characters.

But Mordin is the best. This has been proven by science.

It is scientifically impossible to not be in complete awe of Mordin.

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incinerator950 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

I am only the worst because I am not a VS butt kisser which BSN is all about . As well very out spoken about some things Bioware have done . nah I am never going to drink the VS kool aid or the oh ME is so freaking awesome juices . I am glad I can put a end to the VS in 3 . they should have both died in ME 1 . And certainly should have gotten destroyed for their attitude in 2


What forum are you on dude. Its Tali/Miranda that get most attention, though I dont know why they ar awful.

I don't even know why you would respond to Cerberus Warrior. He acts like this regardless of whether it sounds reasonable or not.



Well look at his screen name.  He is one of them.


I appreciate that statement.  


Sorry but between their whining, trolling, and in some cases deliberately posting spoilers much of the cerberus brigade has left a bad taste in my mouth.  If that does not apply to you then I apologize

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If I were Bioware I would have slapped a plot armor of sorts on Liara. I'd still have her be killable, but only in a non-canon playthroughs where Shepard's entire team wipes or the Reapers win.


Why? Liara sucks and it's about time she stopped forcing her way into the damn plot.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

incinerator950 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

I am only the worst because I am not a VS butt kisser which BSN is all about . As well very out spoken about some things Bioware have done . nah I am never going to drink the VS kool aid or the oh ME is so freaking awesome juices . I am glad I can put a end to the VS in 3 . they should have both died in ME 1 . And certainly should have gotten destroyed for their attitude in 2


What forum are you on dude. Its Tali/Miranda that get most attention, though I dont know why they ar awful.

I don't even know why you would respond to Cerberus Warrior. He acts like this regardless of whether it sounds reasonable or not.



Well look at his screen name.  He is one of them.


I appreciate that statement.  


Sorry but between their whining, trolling, and in some cases deliberately posting spoilers much of the cerberus brigade has left a bad taste in my mouth.  If that does not apply to you then I apologize


It's fine, I've noticed what you said about CerberusSoldier the other day anyway.

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Well, there are obviously some characters that can't die, because you need a squad for the most time.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Well, there are obviously some characters that can't die, because you need a squad for the most time.


Nah, screw the console block on not taking a team with you.  Shepard can do it solo!