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Bioware, why are you doing this to Ashley?


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Kaidan, is there something you want to tell us?
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We're never going to agree on the outfit. This is the BSN.

What we should agree on is the reasoning given behind the armor being flawed. Is it that hard to give a real reason behind the new duds? Because all the female characters we've seen art book pages from have said "We needed her to be sexy, so X" Come on, Bioware. I can come up with a reason for the armor in two seconds that would do wonders for negating this crap.

Example:
When we approached Ashley's design in ME3, we needed to give her something unique. Something special. She was, after all, one of the Alliance's top operatives. In drawing out concept art, we looked into a more formal look; something she could wear to important meetings while still being able to defend herself at a moment's notice.

Now was that hard?

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Honestly, I don't think the catsuit really suited Miranda either.

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G3rman wrote...

G3rman wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

G3rman wrote...

I don't care anymore, the thing is its in the game and isn't going anywhere. Be disappointed in the company if you want, its marketing and it works. Result of society yatta yatta, appealing to teenage masses yatta yatta, complaining doesn't get you anywhere.


Technically, if Ash's outfit has been revised, complaining got people somewhere indeed.


Technically if BioWare took into account how much flak the outfit got in the first place, they would have removed it entirely for something conservative.


I was going to respond, but quoting it would put me down more than I need to.  Regardless, I agree with you.  They wanted it, its going in.  This community group can complain until they make the first Character pack DLC. 

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mrsph wrote...

I prefer Flavor-Aid.

The choice drink for cults everywhere.


Jonestown.

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Ash is more attractive in ME1. Much more attractive.


I would dare say she was much sexier too.

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eye basher wrote...

I'd rather have ashley looking like a stripper than a nun unless of course is a sexy stripper nun.

Is having her look like the soldier she is not even on the table?

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For fanservice, of course.

Modifié par Unpleasant Implications, 05 février 2012 - 12:37 .


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DJBare wrote...

Kaidan, is there something you want to tell us?
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According to the codex human/animal hybrids are specifically banned by the Systems Alliance. So no furries.

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It doesn't look that bad to me. At least it's not her combat outfit (looking at you Miranda, Samara and Jack).

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Unpleasant Implications wrote...

http://ts4.mm.bing.n...SMZK1qdel5b.jpg


[Insert FFS picture here]

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GodWood wrote...

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Two words:


SEX SELLS


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Unfortunately Bioware forgot how to do it.

Full nudity in sex scenes, armoured in combat. NOT dry humping in sex scenes, catsuits in combat.


True. I never said BioWare is good at it. But from the looks of it, they are as hell are trying hard. To bad they still don't get it. Ah well, I honestly couldn't care less personally.

Anyway, Ashley DOES have a full-armor set in combat in ME3. I've seen plenty of footage with her in full-armor. So yeah, this sexy suit is probably something unlockable, or perhaps something she wears on a date or something. Heck, I don't know and I don't care.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Oh yeah! I forgot about that. I never drink it.


It's been years for me too.

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If we're gonna bring up ME1 armor, at least it was pretty... equal among both sexes-
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Luc0s wrote...

GodWood wrote...

Luc0s wrote...
Two words:


SEX SELLS


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Unfortunately Bioware forgot how to do it.

Full nudity in sex scenes, armoured in combat. NOT dry humping in sex scenes, catsuits in combat.


True. I never said BioWare is good at it. But from the looks of it, they are as hell are trying hard. To bad they still don't get it. Ah well, I honestly couldn't care less personally.

Anyway, Ashley DOES have a full-armor set in combat in ME3. I've seen plenty of footage with her in full-armor. So yeah, this sexy suit is probably something unlockable, or perhaps something she wears on a date or something. Heck, I don't know and I don't care.


I usually skip the romance and sex scenes in game.  Ashley is only around because I flipped a coin on it this time.  Unfortunately, Modio is not hooked up and I don't have a hex editor.  So, I would have to do another 100% ME 1 run, and I don't feel like spending the next five days on casual ME 1 with an Adept again.  Same reason why I got off of my new Soldier in ME 2.  

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legion999 wrote...

It doesn't look that bad to me. At least it's not her combat outfit (looking at you Miranda, Samara and Jack).

I have a feeling it was going to be until the butthurt that was unleashed alongside the beta in October/November.

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General User wrote...

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I'd rather have ashley looking like a stripper than a nun unless of course is a sexy stripper nun.

Is having her look like the soldier she is not even on the table?


Well of course not if i wanted to see some ugly plain jane i can just look at my neighbor cause she's  the kind of ugly that nightmares are made off.Image IPB

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my gosh people just because she has an ass doesnt mean she is now meant to be a s*x symbol from bioware, you could try asking bioware if there were going to have tins as armors or a nun outfit for all the women

Ignoring the flawed logic and the false dichotomy, why the hell did you censor "sex"?

changed it, i thought i would get banned for writing it fully? lol :bandit: 

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Oh, yeah. That was definitely her outfit. Christina Norman even tweeted about the people who disliked it just "hated change"

they backpedaled later though.

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If you think thats bad, Tali's new suit has geth-head flashlights as nipples.

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LOOK OUT
Ashley's armor in ME1 and ME2 highlighted her ass as well!


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We gotta hop back in our time machine's and make a big deal then too!

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kareatix wrote...

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What's getting people - or me, at least - riled up over ME3 outfits isn't so much that they're sexy. It's the 'character X needed to be sexy, so we sexed them up' isn't even community speculation. It's literally described as being the justification for character design. So when stuff like this comes out, yeah, people're going to get annoyed by it.


This, a hundred times this. Oh Bioware, what were you thinking...


Indeed. Hell I don't even mind a sexy ashley in the right time and place, but the way they protray her, and hell the way they specifically said they designed her for sexy..... Gah bioware why?

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mrsph wrote...

Oh, yeah. That was definitely her outfit. Christina Norman even tweeted about the people who disliked it just "hated change"

they backpedaled later though.


Christina Norman is a moron and probably one of those responsible for ruining this franchise.

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Nashiktal wrote...

kareatix wrote...

bleetman wrote...

What's getting people - or me, at least - riled up over ME3 outfits isn't so much that they're sexy. It's the 'character X needed to be sexy, so we sexed them up' isn't even community speculation. It's literally described as being the justification for character design. So when stuff like this comes out, yeah, people're going to get annoyed by it.


This, a hundred times this. Oh Bioware, what were you thinking...


Indeed. Hell I don't even mind a sexy ashley in the right time and place, but the way they protray her, and hell the way they specifically said they designed her for sexy..... Gah bioware why?




The answer is already in your quote, why do you keep asking it over and over again?

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Saphra Deden wrote...

mrsph wrote...

Oh, yeah. That was definitely her outfit. Christina Norman even tweeted about the people who disliked it just "hated change"

they backpedaled later though.


Christina Norman is a moron and probably one of those responsible for ruining this franchise.



The franchie isn't ruined whiner.  It is better than ever.