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Bioware, why are you doing this to Ashley?


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Saphra Deden wrote...

Xannerz wrote...

D'awww, don't nuke her for awkward character design, people. Not her fault. :C


I'd rather she die with dignity in a better game than be flaunted around in the crapfest that is ME3.

Aren't you also planning to kill half the squad on the SM for similar reasons?

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

I didn't even notice until this thread brought it up and I have watched the beta quite a bit.

Like I said in my post most don't even notice since they are more wrapped up in the game and the scene is pretty brief to begin with. OP if this bugs you then I hate to see your responses to most games out there. 

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DayusMakhina wrote...

Yuoaman wrote...

I'm quite sure that her outfit has been recolored, you're like seven months late, buddy.

it has, as x3dsix said on the first page (clearly got lost within everyone else complaining). Just to clarify:

Image IPB

Obviously it's not the best screenshot, but that is her casual outfit from when you run into her on Earth, as shown in the James Vega Featurette. As you can see, it's clearly been recoloured from that original screenshot from months and months ago.


Fine, that's an improvement, but the complaint about the overall treatment of women in the franchise still stands. The aforementioned "professional female npc in bathing suit top" is new, anyway. 

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Icinix wrote...

I'm debating nuking her in ME1 and romancing up Jack in ME2.


That's what I had planned to spare Ashley the shame of her ME3 outfit.


What I'm not understanding is you already had the sexy human romance option in Miranda, you had the sexy cute 'dem hips' romance option in Tali, you had the sexy alien romance in Liara (whose entire race spend a hundred years as strippers as part of their growing up period).

Ashely was the no-nonsense, straight down the line, woman who can kick your arse romance option - why would you decide to make that character sexy for ME3. I just can't get my head around why and at what point they decided "So Ash eh? We need more sexy." It just doesn't make any sense to me. YOU HAVE ENOUGH SEXY ALREADY!

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ReallyRue wrote...

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Ugh, that looks so tasteless. I hope there won't be lingering arse shots of her like there were of Miranda, but I suppose I should probably wish for Shepard to ride into battle on a griffon while I'm here.


Ooh!  Shepard riding into battle on Odahviing, with Master Chief and Isaac Clark at his side!  And then and then an army of Krogans riding T-rexs being led by Wrex, and Garrus leading an army of pseudo Asari strippers, with his advanced calibration design head gear, which displays more than two colors now!

Then Will Smith will appear for the prize, with Jacob, and then deliver a Jewish tech who found out Reapers are succeptable to Viruses! 



Hey, don't spoil the ending of ME3 for me. :lol:

But I see no Kaidan in arseless chaps. According to the thread, it shall be a feature.


=]

I want any Krogan that are on board the Normandy to have the feature of being Dinosaurs.  I just beat that Jurassic Park game, and now I want a JP Velociraptor squad mate.  

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El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

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I DEMAND ARSELESS CHAPS FOR BLASTO IN ME3

Fix'd


Now I've seen everything

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Yeah, revised outfit is much better. Also, armor on missions.

Something interesting that bugs me though, They spent all this time on Ash's 'casual' outfit. It has weapon slots. I think BioWare originally intended for her to have that as her armor, then saw the backlash and quickly threw in the retexed Femshep armor.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Xannerz wrote...

D'awww, don't nuke her for awkward character design, people. Not her fault. :C


I'd rather she die with dignity in a better game than be flaunted around in the crapfest that is ME3.

Says the person who hasn't even touched the game at all....

Modifié par Genshie, 04 février 2012 - 11:42 .


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Revised looks great actually.

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Dasher1010 wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Adugan wrote...

I DEMAND ARSELESS CHAPS FOR THE NORMANDY IN ME3

Fix'd


Now I've seen everything


...are you quite sure? ^.-

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Dasher1010 wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Adugan wrote...

I DEMAND ARSELESS CHAPS FOR BLASTO IN ME3

Fix'd


Now I've seen everything

Don't tempt the devil...
This is the internet, you can always go further.

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 04 février 2012 - 11:43 .


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DayusMakhina wrote...
As you can see, it's clearly been recoloured from that original screenshot from months and months ago.

Indeed.

Unfortunately she still prances around with her hair out, her ****** have been enlarged and she's in an unprofessional latex suit on the grounds of I quote, "We wanted her to be more sexy".

What's amusing is Bioware's mindset when designing Ash in ME1 was along the lines of "We wanted Ash to look normal ... like a woman you'd meet at work"

Modifié par GodWood, 04 février 2012 - 11:43 .


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[quote]Anarya wrote...

Dragon Age is not perfect in this respect but it's lightyears ahead of Mass Effect. 
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... It's obvious that you've played both games, how can you say this? 

Morrigan vs Samara,  Isabella vs Ashley, I'd say DA is behind ME. 
Although I guess Isabella was written as a **** and Ashley is being rewritten as such, so that is annoying...

[quote]Shifty-looking Chicken wrote...

I honestly find Bioware's approach to female character design quite childish nowdays.[/quote]
Still got Tali and Liara for non-sexed up characters. Thankfully.
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lol?

[quote]Anarya wrote...



There's a difference between sexy and tasteless. 

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The Bio devs have dismissed this claim.

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Ah yes, "Ashley". She is nothing but ashes now in my mass effect verse.. Atleast they aren't trying to change my boy Kaidan up!

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Meh, she's dead in my canon but this makes me wonder what they're doing to Kaidan.

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Please feminists and self-righteous fashion designers, continue with the complaints and ranting! I think its working!

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Ashley has an ass? God forbid! You guys are really complaining about this? You guys are pathetic.
Having an ass > Having no ass

I think you guys are just a little too paranoid about Ash getting the Miranda treatment with ass cam shots.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Xannerz wrote...

D'awww, don't nuke her for awkward character design, people. Not her fault. :C


I'd rather she die with dignity in a better game than be flaunted around in the crapfest that is ME3.



You havn't played ME 3 yet so stfu

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Icinix wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Adugan wrote...

I DEMAND ARSELESS CHAPS FOR A VORCHA IN ME3

Fix'd


Now I've seen everything


...are you quite sure? ^.-


Yeah, pretty sure

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Asch Lavigne wrote...
Meh, she's dead in my canon but this makes me wonder what they're doing to Kaidan.

He's in medium to heavy armour because he's a man.

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Icinix wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Icinix wrote...

I'm debating nuking her in ME1 and romancing up Jack in ME2.


That's what I had planned to spare Ashley the shame of her ME3 outfit.


What I'm not understanding is you already had the sexy human romance option in Miranda, you had the sexy cute 'dem hips' romance option in Tali, you had the sexy alien romance in Liara (whose entire race spend a hundred years as strippers as part of their growing up period).

Ashely was the no-nonsense, straight down the line, woman who can kick your arse romance option - why would you decide to make that character sexy for ME3. I just can't get my head around why and at what point they decided "So Ash eh? We need more sexy." It just doesn't make any sense to me. YOU HAVE ENOUGH SEXY ALREADY!

For new ME3 players, they needed a sexed up squad mate.  Liara's outfit isn't revealing, so Ash ended up getting the role of 'sexed up' in this game.

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Genshie wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I didn't even notice until this thread brought it up and I have watched the beta quite a bit.

Like I said in my post most don't even notice since they are more wrapped up in the game and the scene is pretty brief to begin with. OP if this bugs you then I hate to see your responses to most games out there. 


Honestly? I expect more from Bioware, especially since DA is so much more progressive. Other games generally get an eyeroll and a "moving on..." from me. 

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Get over it.

Ashley is hawt.

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Obvakhi wrote...

Ashley has an ass? God forbid! You guys are really complaining about this? You guys are pathetic.
Having an ass > Having no ass

I think you guys are just a little too paranoid about Ash getting the Miranda treatment with ass cam shots.



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Obvakhi wrote...
I think you guys are just a little too paranoid about Ash getting the Miranda treatment with ass cam shots.

You really think she isn't?