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Will letting Vido escape and sparing Kasumi's Greybox have ramifications in ME3?


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Epsilon330

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Pretty much the title. Since it is revealed that if the information in the Greybox is released to the Council, the Alliance would be implicated; there is a sizeable risk that it could get captured again, and then relations would break down when we need them most.
As for Vido, is it better to save the workers, and let Vido escape, possibly giving him a grudge against you in ME3, or choose the Renegade path? Since i'm getting a ME1 import as a Paragon, but with Paragade tendencies if the situation demands it, ready for ME3; which are the safer options?

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Considering our enemies in ME3 Vido is small time, especially if you' ve done all side missions about blue suns. And during a Galactic War I don't think council will bother to punish Alliance.

Modifié par Aligalipe, 05 février 2012 - 02:42 .


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Aligalipe wrote...

Considering our enemies in ME3 Vido is small time, especially if you' ve done all side missions about blue suns. And during a Galactic War I don't think council will bother to punish Alliance.

Perhaps. But the information in the Greybox is hinted to be extremely volatile, and since Kasumi decoded it...

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I'd expect some minor changes to story, yes.

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WizenSlinky0 wrote...

I'd expect some minor changes to story, yes.

So, go Paragade in Stolen Memory, and Paragon in Zorya?

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I want to expose the alliance so I hope her gray box is important

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For Kasumi and the greybox, I'm guessing you will get a side mission to help Kasumi if she kept the greybox, I don't think it will be a big deal, basically you will have to rescue her from people going after the greybox.

As for Vido, as already stated, small time, but you might get a second chance and go along with Zaeed, definitely not sure on that one.

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DJBare wrote...

For Kasumi and the greybox, I'm guessing you will get a side mission to help Kasumi if she kept the greybox, I don't think it will be a big deal, basically you will have to rescue her from people going after the greybox.

As for Vido, as already stated, small time, but you might get a second chance and go along with Zaeed, definitely not sure on that one.

Hmm, looks like Paragon's winning here. I guess it wouldn't be too hard to go back and Paragade the missions if things turn out ugly in ME3.

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Meh. For Vito, you can gain Zaeed's loyalty even if you let him go, so I would expect that letting him survive is more akin to if Wrex survived. If so, he's on Tuchanka. If not, it's someone else (except probably, in this case, with less implications for the future of the race).

For Kasumi, I think there'll be a small difference, but I don't think it will change much. Probably something similar to above, or maybe even just something like letting the Rachni Queen live: if so, there's one additional interaction in ME2, but no other difference. It might be like that.

But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.

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Epsilon330 wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

I'd expect some minor changes to story, yes.

So, go Paragade in Stolen Memory, and Paragon in Zorya?


My best guesses would be:

Kasumi's graybox either being something targeted by others, or providing you with some helpful information to get a new war asset, and Vido being alive giving Zaeed reason to hold off his retirement, and potentially do something involving the blue suns. I mean, he used to lead them, that's GOT to come back somewhere.

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Alrighty, full Paragon it is. Thanks all.

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wirelesstkd wrote...


But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.


[MINOR SPOILER]

The survival of a certain race depends on the Kasumi decision. Unless you kept it there is going to be death.

Modifié par ddv.rsa, 05 février 2012 - 03:19 .


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Im damn sure they would have ramifications..... Theres alot of Moral choices that have penalties no matter which you choose in Mass Effect 3 (according to script) so Id think they'd have an impact.

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Probably small. Vido was in charge of the Blue Suns, all their major pirating orders and operations came down from him. Killing him is a long term favor to anyone dealing with the Suns.

Not sure about the Greybox. Has to be used to paint the Alliance, but its not exactly a good time seeing as how the fate of the entire Galaxy outweighs most of humanity.

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ddv.rsa wrote...

wirelesstkd wrote...


But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.


[MINOR SPOILER]

The survival of a certain race depends on the Kasumi decision. Unless you kept it there is going to be death.

Holy Doritos! Definitely Paragon then!

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Epsilon330 wrote...

ddv.rsa wrote...

wirelesstkd wrote...


But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.


[MINOR SPOILER]

The survival of a certain race depends on the Kasumi decision. Unless you kept it there is going to be death.

Holy Doritos! Definitely Paragon then!


Do note some Paragon choices in ME 3 will require major sacrifices too get the "Paragon" result I wont say spoilers but involves deaths of a few for saving the many or deaths of the many to save the few type decisions

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Is the Kasumi DLC actually worth it? It's one of the few DLCs I haven't bothered picking up.

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ddv.rsa wrote...

wirelesstkd wrote...


But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.


[MINOR SPOILER]

The survival of a certain race depends on the Kasumi decision. Unless you kept it there is going to be death.


WHAT?!?! Even my paragon Shepard always tells her to destroy it with the "it's what he wanted" logic, because the Alliance could be in giant trouble if anyone caught wind of its contents (making keeping it seem more renegade then destorying it, to my eyes). But now you're saying that keeping it just causes extra scenes and saves an entire race from extinction? How the heck can destroying implicating info on the Alliance save a non-human race? Oh this is just weird. Guess I have to let her keep it from now on.

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Yay, more speculation or Leak readers.

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Who said I let Vido Escape... just delaying the inevitable, Shepard and Massani will get to Vido. Vido is just under the illusion that he has escaped...especially if the give us a shot at him in ME 3 and I can install Massani as the knew head of the Blue suns.

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Yeah, the choices in this game are ALOT harder than people let on, the story is good, I dont see how people who read the script can say the game is just "ok" Some of the choices I read while reading it were like "How the Hell am I too decide that?"

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andy69156915 wrote...

ddv.rsa wrote...

wirelesstkd wrote...


But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.


[MINOR SPOILER]

The survival of a certain race depends on the Kasumi decision. Unless you kept it there is going to be death.


WHAT?!?! Even my paragon Shepard always tells her to destroy it with the "it's what he wanted" logic, because the Alliance could be in giant trouble if anyone caught wind of its contents (making keeping it seem more renegade then destorying it, to my eyes). But now you're saying that keeping it just causes extra scenes and saves an entire race from extinction? How the heck can destroying implicating info on the Alliance save a non-human race? Oh this is just weird. Guess I have to let her keep it from now on.


I don't believe that for a second. They're pulling your leg. Being a troll.

First, that wouldn't be a "minor" spoiler if it were true, and they know it.
Second, Bioware isn't going to make a DLC decision have such a massive impact like that.

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andy69156915 wrote...

ddv.rsa wrote...

wirelesstkd wrote...


But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.


[MINOR SPOILER]

The survival of a certain race depends on the Kasumi decision. Unless you kept it there is going to be death.


WHAT?!?! Even my paragon Shepard always tells her to destroy it with the "it's what he wanted" logic, because the Alliance could be in giant trouble if anyone caught wind of its contents (making keeping it seem more renegade then destorying it, to my eyes). But now you're saying that keeping it just causes extra scenes and saves an entire race from extinction? How the heck can destroying implicating info on the Alliance save a non-human race? Oh this is just weird. Guess I have to let her keep it from now on.


[SPOILER]


If you want to save the race it is still possible, but a sacrifice must be made. Lots of Renegade choices from ME1/ME2 blow up in ME3, especially from the DLC.

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TheDarkRats wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

ddv.rsa wrote...

wirelesstkd wrote...


But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.


[MINOR SPOILER]

The survival of a certain race depends on the Kasumi decision. Unless you kept it there is going to be death.


WHAT?!?! Even my paragon Shepard always tells her to destroy it with the "it's what he wanted" logic, because the Alliance could be in giant trouble if anyone caught wind of its contents (making keeping it seem more renegade then destorying it, to my eyes). But now you're saying that keeping it just causes extra scenes and saves an entire race from extinction? How the heck can destroying implicating info on the Alliance save a non-human race? Oh this is just weird. Guess I have to let her keep it from now on.


I don't believe that for a second. They're pulling your leg. Being a troll.

First, that wouldn't be a "minor" spoiler if it were true, and they know it.
Second, Bioware isn't going to make a DLC decision have such a massive impact like that.





A. Im not giving away spoilers.
B. Im giving examples of the TYPES of choices I read.
C. I gave my opinion on the story so far. 
D. I never read that decision or that outcome. 
E. I didnt say anything like that.
F. Thank you for your time :police:

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TheDarkRats wrote...


I don't believe that for a second. They're pulling your leg. Being a troll.

First, that wouldn't be a "minor" spoiler if it were true, and they know it.
Second, Bioware isn't going to make a DLC decision have such a massive impact like that


You don't need to believe it, wait and see. It's a minor spoiler because I'm not mentioning the race or giving any context.