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Will letting Vido escape and sparing Kasumi's Greybox have ramifications in ME3?


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ddv.rsa wrote...

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But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.


[MINOR SPOILER]

The survival of a certain race depends on the Kasumi decision. Unless you kept it there is going to be death.


WHAT?!?! Even my paragon Shepard always tells her to destroy it with the "it's what he wanted" logic, because the Alliance could be in giant trouble if anyone caught wind of its contents (making keeping it seem more renegade then destorying it, to my eyes). But now you're saying that keeping it just causes extra scenes and saves an entire race from extinction? How the heck can destroying implicating info on the Alliance save a non-human race? Oh this is just weird. Guess I have to let her keep it from now on.


[SPOILER]


If you want to save the race it is still possible, but a sacrifice must be made. Lots of Renegade choices from ME1/ME2 blow up in ME3, especially from the DLC.



From what I read, YES you are correct, DLC helps you get a "Happy" ending too some choices, without the DLC choices you can still save certain races but at a cost. Big cost in some choices.

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TheDarkRats wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

ddv.rsa wrote...

wirelesstkd wrote...


But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.


[MINOR SPOILER]

The survival of a certain race depends on the Kasumi decision. Unless you kept it there is going to be death.


WHAT?!?! Even my paragon Shepard always tells her to destroy it with the "it's what he wanted" logic, because the Alliance could be in giant trouble if anyone caught wind of its contents (making keeping it seem more renegade then destorying it, to my eyes). But now you're saying that keeping it just causes extra scenes and saves an entire race from extinction? How the heck can destroying implicating info on the Alliance save a non-human race? Oh this is just weird. Guess I have to let her keep it from now on.


I don't believe that for a second. They're pulling your leg. Being a troll.

First, that wouldn't be a "minor" spoiler if it were true, and they know it.
Second, Bioware isn't going to make a DLC decision have such a massive impact like that.





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The race in question won't be probably as useful as other races during the war though, and besides the leak here isn't all that clear whelter destroying the greybox will always mean their extinction.

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You don't do the DLC, it plays out as if you've ignored the mission. Which in Kasumi's case results in the Paragon alternative, not sure about Zaeed.

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I must say that these people are correct

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Foxtrot 212 wrote...

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ddv.rsa wrote...

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But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.


[MINOR SPOILER]

The survival of a certain race depends on the Kasumi decision. Unless you kept it there is going to be death.

Holy Doritos! Definitely Paragon then!


Do note some Paragon choices in ME 3 will require major sacrifices too get the "Paragon" result I wont say spoilers but involves deaths of a few for saving the many or deaths of the many to save the few type decisions


No victory is achieve without sacrifice and i'm glad if it's true. I'l sacrifice everything to stop the Reaper. :innocent:

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Rovay wrote...

The race in question won't be probably as useful as other races during the war though, and besides the leak here isn't all that clear whelter destroying the greybox will always mean their extinction.


It doesn't, it just forces you to make a choice between sacrificing A or B. If you kept it, you get an option C leading to a happy ending.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 05 février 2012 - 04:02 .


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Imperium Alpha wrote...

Foxtrot 212 wrote...

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ddv.rsa wrote...

wirelesstkd wrote...


But I would be VERY surprised (pleasantly) if either choice makes a big difference, one way or another.


[MINOR SPOILER]

The survival of a certain race depends on the Kasumi decision. Unless you kept it there is going to be death.

Holy Doritos! Definitely Paragon then!


Do note some Paragon choices in ME 3 will require major sacrifices too get the "Paragon" result I wont say spoilers but involves deaths of a few for saving the many or deaths of the many to save the few type decisions


No victory is achieve without sacrifice and i'm glad if it's true. I'l sacrifice everything to stop the Reaper. :innocent:


I agree with you, but I will not sacrifice the many to save the few, I need as many ships as I can and ground troops.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

You don't do the DLC, it plays out as if you've ignored the mission. Which in Kasumi's case results in the Paragon alternative, not sure about Zaeed.


In other words you're better off not playing the DLC at all than playing it Renegade. Lol.

A better way to describe the choice of 'paragon vs. renegade' is 'success vs. failure'. The moral greyness is gone.

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Moral Greyness in Mass Effect is mutually missing for two games already.

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Its in 3 Pretty heavy personally....

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Oh neat, I'm actually looking forward to locking myself into a few tough-as-nails decisions by paving the road to hell with good intentions. Glad to hear my routine decisions might hurt a little.

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Yeah, I will say I cant wait too play the game.

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I don't have the Kasumi DLC either. So as somebody said it will just play out as renegade but will that that I won't have her as an additional character in ME3?

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Bioware might just write their way out of any serious consequences if ir comes up in ME3. Or they might just not even acknowledge it. Whatever it takes to keep the player on the one main narrative path that Bioware have for us.

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VinWizzy wrote...

I don't have the Kasumi DLC either. So as somebody said it will just play out as renegade but will that that I won't have her as an additional character in ME3?


She'll be in ME3, her dialogue will change to mention that she never met you. The situation plays out as if you never completed the mission, which means the graybox is intact (paragon alternative).

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JeffZero wrote...

Oh neat, I'm actually looking forward to locking myself into a few tough-as-nails decisions by paving the road to hell with good intentions. Glad to hear my routine decisions might hurt a little.


Only if your routine decisions are renegade.

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ddv.rsa wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Oh neat, I'm actually looking forward to locking myself into a few tough-as-nails decisions by paving the road to hell with good intentions. Glad to hear my routine decisions might hurt a little.


Only if your routine decisions are renegade.


Hence the 'little', I suppose. They're typically Paragon.

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ddv.rsa wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Oh neat, I'm actually looking forward to locking myself into a few tough-as-nails decisions by paving the road to hell with good intentions. Glad to hear my routine decisions might hurt a little.


Only if your routine decisions are renegade.


I dont know, the Paragon Choices from ME 1 have a huge impact that can create alot of tough decisions...... Just saying

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I always kill Vido. He deserves to die.

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Kronner wrote...

I always kill Vido. He deserves to die.


And so do those refinery workers?

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Mesina2 wrote...

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I always kill Vido. He deserves to die.


And so do those refinery workers?


I do not really care for them tbh. They could escape on their own if they weren't cowards.

Modifié par Kronner, 05 février 2012 - 04:30 .


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Kronner wrote...

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Kronner wrote...

I always kill Vido. He deserves to die.


And so do those refinery workers?


I do not really care for them tbh. They could escape on their own if they weren't cowards.


I dont agree but ok..... How were they too know that some crazy ass merc was going to blow the place up and cause a chain reaction down the pipes?    <_<

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Haasth wrote...

Is the Kasumi DLC actually worth it? It's one of the few DLCs I haven't bothered picking up.

I'd say so.

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I forget, is the paragon choice destroying the greybox and the renegade one keeping it? Or is it the other way around? So does keeping it have potential ramifications for that certain race or does destroying it have that potential bad outcome?

Modifié par Ramus Quaritch, 05 février 2012 - 04:42 .


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Ramus Quaritch wrote...

I forget, is the paragon choice destroying the greybox and the renegade one keeping it? Or is it the other way around? So does keeping it have potential ramifications for that certain race or does destroying it have that potential bad outcome?


Keeping it saves that unmentioned race, and keeping it is the paragon option.

*glances aside*

And here come the renegades yelling about how their choices are always the short of the stick. I'm out.