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[wirelesstkd]

On my most recent playthrough of ME2, I romanced Miranda, but had previously romanced Liara. On the Shadow Broker mission, myself, Liara and Miranda had just killed Vassir, when (on the third paragon interupt) Liara got upset because I was trying to get in Miranda's pants (*awkward* ). I reassured her that I was still in love with her, and then even had her back on the Normandy afterward for drinks and promised I would survive the suicide mission and that there would be little blue children in our future.

However, before heading out for the suicide mission, Miranda still seduced Shep, despite the fact that she was standing right there on Illium when I told Liara how I felt (silly game AI).

So now, I would think that having taken this course should cause irreversible damage to my relationship with Liara. I mean - it'd be one thing if I completed LotSB AFTER the suicide mission... but in this case I actually promised to be loyal to her, slept with her, and then immediately cheated on her with Miranda.

So, do you guys think that ME3 will be smart enough to understand this? I don't. I assume that at some point Shep is given the chance to make ammends with his ME1 LI and that it will play out the same regardless of LotSB.

Thoughts?

[Kronner]

I think your last choice counts as a romance, therefore Miranda is your LI at this moment. Liara should not be happy about it.

[wirelesstkd]

Kronner wrote...

I think your last choice counts as a romance, therefore Miranda is your LI at this moment. Liara should not be happy about it.

I guess what I'm asking is - will the game recognize that I cheated on her worse than if I had been with Miranda BEFORE doing LotSB.

In other words:  IMO, you're not really cheating on you ME1 LI in ME2. If it's the VS, then they basically tell you it's over on Horizon. And if it's Liara (pre-LotSB), she tells you she has no time for you because she's hunting the Shadow Broker. So IMO, you're not really cheating, you're just moving on with your life.

However, after LotSB, if you re-romance Liara, you're REALLY in a relationship with her. You promised her lots of little blue children and she said she'd be waiting for you when you returned.

They're very different things in real life, and I'm wondering if the game will be able to draw the distinction. I know it's all speculation at this point - not asking for a "confirmed" answer (unless there is one, lol). Just wondering out loud

Modifié par wirelesstkd, 05 février 2012 - 07:06 .

[PrinceLionheart]

Kronner wrote...

I think your last choice counts as a romance, therefore Miranda is your LI at this moment. Liara should not be happy about it.

Liara didn't seem too put off by Shep suggesting a threesome in ME1, so I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't make a big deal.

[knightnblu]

Liara is not an LI that I would want to have pissed off at me. She has biotics, she can foul you up across the whole galaxy due to her being the new Shadow Broker, and she's a pretty good shot to boot. I wouldn't want to be you in ME3. Maybe you can tell her that you woke up one morning and had a brain tumor for breakfast. It might confuse her long enough for you to make a break for it.

[Skullheart]

Congratulations, you might have cheated two of the most deadliest ladies in the galaxy.

Modifié par Skullheart, 05 février 2012 - 07:38 .

[slaything]

I think the infamous confrontation and major repercussions for cheating on your LI is going to be one dialogue with Liara on the Normandy about whether you're serious about her or not. I don't think it'd matter if you cheated on Liara after LotSB or before, you'll still get this dialogue.

I have a question too, I figured it's a good place to ask this:
if during LotSB you decide to pick the dialogue option about 'staying friends for now' in the conversation with Liara at the end, does it break off your relationship? do you think it's possible to pursue it in ME3 ?

[d.nichols]

See, Liara seemed fine with Shep cheating on her with Tali in LotSB. I mean not at first, but she adjusted pretty quickly. I wonder if Shep's romance will only hate your guts if it was Ashley or Kaidan. In which case I wish I would've picked Ashley for Shep, because I want a big emotional fight scene.

But sincerely I'm holding out for the Vorcha romance option. Or Legion.

[Yuqi]

I wont to know what happen as well. I did the same thing as you OP just with Garus instead of Miranda.

[Collider]

I don't think you have anything to worry about.

[Golden Owl]

I did exactly the same thing with one of my Sheps with Liara and Miranda, but then topped it off by doing Jack's LM after the SM and siding with Jack...I would be very disappointed if there's little reaction.

[MissMaster]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Kronner wrote...

I think your last choice counts as a romance, therefore Miranda is your LI at this moment. Liara should not be happy about it.

Liara didn't seem too put off by Shep suggesting a threesome in ME1, so I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't make a big deal.

Pause. you can suggest a threesome? I did not know that.

[the almighty moo]

d.nichols wrote...

See, Liara seemed fine with Shep cheating on her with Tali in LotSB. I mean not at first, but she adjusted pretty quickly. I wonder if Shep's romance will only hate your guts if it was Ashley or Kaidan. In which case I wish I would've picked Ashley for Shep, because I want a big emotional fight scene.

But sincerely I'm holding out for the Vorcha romance option. Or Legion.

the leigon romance option reminds me of FISTO from Fallout:New Vegas...

[CptData]

Skullheart wrote...

Congratulations, you might have cheated two of the most deadliest ladies in the galaxy.

He cheated on Ashley and Liara?

[pmac_tk421]

Skullheart wrote...

Congratulations, you might have cheated two of the most deadliest ladies in the galaxy.

Yeah, the reapers will be nothing compared to that deadly combination.

[Skullheart]

CptData wrote...

Skullheart wrote...

Congratulations, you might have cheated two of the most deadliest ladies in the galaxy.

He cheated on Ashley and Liara?

Ash is a tomboy, not a lady, and she isn't as deadly as Miranda or Liara.

[BlueMagitek]

Oh come on now, what's Liara going to do? Give you to Miranda to bring you back to life again?

[Skullheart]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Oh come on now, what's Liara going to do? Give you to Miranda to bring you back to life again?

Remember that Liara isn't the naive a young asari she was in ME1. Now she is a cold asari with biotics that can rival with a matriarch.

And Miranda is a woman who can kill at cold blood with not much problem. Besides her biotics and years of experience being a clandestine operative.

[Han Shot First]

BlueMagitek wrote...

Oh come on now, what's Liara going to do? Give you to Miranda to bring you back to life again?

Hit you with a singularity, have Miranda revive you, then hit you with a singularity again.

Just kidding. Out of all the squad mates I think Liara would take it the best if Shepard moved on and started seeing to someone else. In ME1 she was open to a threesome with Ashley and if Shepard rejects Liara in LotSB for one of the ME2 LIs, she handles it pretty well and doesn't seem to harbior any animosity towards Shepard or the new LI. Despite some of Liara's critics calling the character 'obsessive,' she's the least possessive/jealous LI.

Ashley on the other hand....

[Skullheart]

Ash might be jealous, but at least she isn't as obssessive like Liara.

I mean, keeping part of shep armor displaying in her apartment. And keeping Shep dog tags (Hannah Shepard not receiving the tags of her child?). Not to mention that She'll keep the tags if you want to stay professional with her.

[Ryzaki]

Liara's too damn overprotective of Shep to kill him/her. I could she her coldly rebuffing Shep but that's it. My Shep treated her like s*** in ME1 and she still went through all that crap to get his corpse.

I don't see Miranda killing Shep over cheating either. She would kill him/her if it suited her purposes though.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 06 février 2012 - 02:05 .

[BlueMagitek]

Skullheart wrote...

Remember that Liara isn't the naive a young asari she was in ME1. Now she is a cold asari with biotics that can rival with a matriarch.

And Miranda is a woman who can kill at cold blood with not much problem. Besides her biotics and years of experience being a clandestine operative.

Doesn't even matter.  Liara's full of empty threats and needs Shepard to do anything effective. =D

You're Miranda's Frankenstein's monster~!  You'll end up killing her in the end.  

[Han Shot First]

Skullheart wrote...

Ash might be jealous, but at least she isn't as obssessive like Liara.

I mean, keeping part of shep armor displaying in her apartment. And keeping Shep dog tags (Hannah Shepard not receiving the tags of her child?). Not to mention that She'll keep the tags if you want to stay professional with her.

Those that say that that Liara is some kind of stalker are just as wrong as those that say that Ashley is a bible-thumping racist. Liara is hardly obsessive, for the reason I stated in my earlier post. She's the least jealous of the ME1 LIs (she was open to a threesome with Ash or Kaidan) and she holds no animosity towards either Shepard or his new LI, if Shepard breaks it off with her for someone else.

Liara holding onto Shepard's armor is also not bizarre in any way. Even if she was unromanced she was still a comrade-in-arms that had been to hell and back with Shepard. Short of family there are no bonds tighter than the bonds forged between soldiers or Marines in war, and keeping something that reminds you of a person that has died is a fairly normal response to mourning. As for the dog tags, people in the military often keep another set in their boots. While it may sound morbid, it is so that if they are blown apart or decapitated their body can still be easily identified. It is likely Shepard was doing the same thing and the other set did go to Hannah.

[gearseffect]

Um.... I have a Earth Born Shep, and a Colonist Shep whose family are dead or he don't know 'em cause they didn't want him.
So his tags really can't go to his Mom.
Also who says Shep wanted his Mom to get anything from him if he died? His mom and him might not be on the best of terms, but then that could be a side effect of my true life situation with my own Mom, I hardly talk to her and we don't hardly see eye to eye, I've called her up a few times wanting to know something odd like what type of Cancer her Granddad died from kinda like Shepard's call to his mom about the drunken dude.
Anyway my Sheps still want at least one galactic threesome, and Liara didn't seem opposed to it and Jack has done threesomes before.. wait a minute I now need to raise the bar and shoot for a foursome, with Liara, Jack,and someone else
I was actually wondering if I can have one big can of worms with ladies in ME3

[BlueMagitek]

Han Shot First wrote...

Those that say that that Liara is some kind of stalker are just as wrong as those that say that Ashley is a bible-thumping racist. Liara is hardly obsessive, for the reason I stated in my earlier post. She's the least jealous of the ME1 LIs (she was open to a threesome with Ash or Kaidan) and she holds no animosity towards either Shepard or his new LI, if Shepard breaks it off with her for someone else.

Liara holding onto Shepard's armor is also not bizarre in any way. Even if she was unromanced she was still a comrade-in-arms that had been to hell and back with Shepard. Short of family there are no bonds tighter than the bonds forged between soldiers or Marines in war, and keeping something that reminds you of a person that has died is a fairly normal response to mourning. As for the dog tags, people in the military often keep another set in their boots. While it may sound morbid, it is so that if they are blown apart or decapitated their body can still be easily identified. It is likely Shepard was doing the same thing and the other set did go to Hannah.

Liara is obsessed, though.  Her reason for going through the Shadow Broker and giving Shep's body to Cerberus for resurrection is because she couldn't let you go, regardless of how much of a jerk you were to ME 1, regardless of if you let her stew in those ruins until after Virmire.  She didn't try to resurrect her mother or even try to recover her body, but she'll save Shep because she couldn't let him go~.

It's not healthy.