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[Palidane]

I spared her for lots of reasons:
1. She is not responsible for the sins of other rachni.
2. The other Rachni seem to have been indoctrinated, which means she is not guilty of anything in any conceivable way.
3. Killind a defenseless innocent trapped in a tank is for Renegades. As is Genocide.
4. Who says they are more prone to Indoctrination? I got the feeling that Sovereign's call was kind of a sucker punch, and took them by surprise.
5. She sincerely regrets the Rachni Wars and agrees with us killing them.
6. Reapers. Massive Armies are very useful when it comes to Reapers.

And I don't regret my decision at all. The Asari on Illium told us that the Rachni are basically minding their own business, occasionally killing off the odd pirate and rescuing the occasional civilian. Hardly a menace to galactic peace.

[ZehnWaters]

What the Council did to the Rachni and the Krogan are expressly different, Mordin explains this perfectly. Both had to be stopped. Completely obliterating them is one thing, stopping them in their tracks is another. The Council had no choice with the Krogan, their only options was to neuter them or kill them; the Krogan would have fought to the end.

Modifié par ZehnWaters, 07 février 2012 - 04:56 .

[leeboi2]

Yes, because I'm not a dick...

[leeboi2]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Honestly, I'd kill her IRL.

Never done it in-game, though. I am admittedly a softie.

This statement is nonsensicle.-:happy:

[RogueState]

Mr. C wrote...

A thought occured. Why do so many people say killing her is genocide? It's closer to murder.

Because she is the last Racni Queen (that we know of) and without her the Rachni have no chance of being able to re-populate their race. So you if you kill her you kill their entire race, hence genocide!

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Lotion is right again. They're too vulnerable as a RACE to indoctrination. Can't take the risk *kills her again*

Another racist comment. Now you should punch me in the face

[DontReallyKnow]

Palidane wrote...

I spared her for lots of reasons:
1. She is not responsible for the sins of other rachni.
2. The other Rachni seem to have been indoctrinated, which means she is not guilty of anything in any conceivable way.
3. Killind a defenseless innocent trapped in a tank is for Renegades. As is Genocide.
4. Who says they are more prone to Indoctrination? I got the feeling that Sovereign's call was kind of a sucker punch, and took them by surprise.
5. She sincerely regrets the Rachni Wars and agrees with us killing them.
6. Reapers. Massive Armies are very useful when it comes to Reapers.

And I don't regret my decision at all. The Asari on Illium told us that the Rachni are basically minding their own business, occasionally killing off the odd pirate and rescuing the occasional civilian. Hardly a menace to galactic peace.

This.  I reckon they will be a powerfull Ally in ME3.  Well hopefully.

[ddv.rsa]

DontReallyKnow wrote...

Palidane wrote...

I spared her for lots of reasons:
1. She is not responsible for the sins of other rachni.
2. The other Rachni seem to have been indoctrinated, which means she is not guilty of anything in any conceivable way.
3. Killind a defenseless innocent trapped in a tank is for Renegades. As is Genocide.
4. Who says they are more prone to Indoctrination? I got the feeling that Sovereign's call was kind of a sucker punch, and took them by surprise.
5. She sincerely regrets the Rachni Wars and agrees with us killing them.
6. Reapers. Massive Armies are very useful when it comes to Reapers.

And I don't regret my decision at all. The Asari on Illium told us that the Rachni are basically minding their own business, occasionally killing off the odd pirate and rescuing the occasional civilian. Hardly a menace to galactic peace.

This.  I reckon they will be a powerfull Ally in ME3.  Well hopefully.

Oh they will, have no doubt about that. It's what comes later that is the problem. IMO their help isn't worth the potential price.

[Nerevar-as]

Jedi Sentinel Arian wrote...

Lotion is right again. They're too vulnerable as a RACE to indoctrination. Can't take the risk *kills her again*

Another racist comment. Now you should punch me in the face

Even if it´s virtual, the easiness some people have to commit genocide of an intelligent species is really scary.

[Wereparrot]

In my latest playthrough I killed her. In many of my playthroughs I have spared her, but really I think that I'd much rather be abused for being a genocidal maniac than abused for failing to learn the lessons of history, should history repeat itself; and other than that she gave me no reason to believe that what she was saying was genuine. I would rather have the blood of one rachni on my hands than the guilt of knowing that I caused a war, and consequently had the blood of many more beings on my hands. I would rather have taken her hostage for her own good behaviour, but alas that was not an option.

[Mr. C]

Lordy12 wrote...

Mr. C wrote...

A thought occured. Why do so many people say killing her is genocide? It's closer to murder.

Because she is the last Racni Queen (that we know of) and without her the Rachni have no chance of being able to re-populate their race. So you if you kill her you kill their entire race, hence genocide!

So basically, if someone kills a young woman, it's genocide because she had the capability to produce offspring?

[Mr. C]

Arg, I should probably drop out of this discussion completely before I'm labeled -too- much of a merciless a**hole >.<

[Eclipse_9990]

Cause I felt like it. Problem?

[ddv.rsa]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Cause I felt like it. Problem?

Felt like what? Killing her or letting her go?

[Klijpope]

My personal-canon FemShep spared her. It's what she would have done.

Shepard in ME1 is essentially a cross between James Kirk and James Bond (but female!), so I thought, what would they do? Kirk would definitely spare the rachni; so would Bond - it's the right thing to do, and it ****s a hoop at authority (the Council).

My MalShep is a total git (or was in ME1 - Tali surprised him in ME2, and she may be making him nicer... we'll have to see). He's basically a cross between Mirror universe Kirk and the snide Bond of the unfunny quips ("He had a lot of guts!"). So he killed the queen without hesitation, then snarked.

From my FemShep's PoV, she's trying to save the Galaxy! That includes the rachni, especially since they were the opening salvo in Sovereign's secret war. As a spectre she has the authority, but also the responsibility, to fight for all species. Despite having the colonist background, she helped batarians where she could in ME2, and let the underling leave in 'Bring Down the Sky' - even though she sacrificed the hostages to take down Balak (a clear and present danger). She's no namby-pamby, though - she let the Council die, without any remorse, as Sovereign had to be taken down at-all-cost. She was also happy to stab gunship technicians in the back (tactically sound - would have to kill him anyway in the end) and push mercs out of windows (he took part in a massacre of innocent salarians - guilty). And also happy to use standard execution on those who express no remorse or are trying to escalate, like martinet Exogeni execs and corrupt strip club owners. She's a philosopher.

GitShep, if in doubt, kill'em. He just doesn't care. If they get in the way, a bullet will do. Unless they're a hot chick, or have cash.

[Galkan]

She's a disgusting bug that reproduces rapidly. Death was the only option for that failed species.

[Dragoonlordz]

Because she is my next LI. >

I will have a billion Shepard spider babies doing my bidding!

Upon which time, ye shall all bow down before the evolved monkey-spider god known as Shepard. 

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 07 février 2012 - 06:51 .

[firestrike 332]

i never kill her in any of my playthough for 2 reason i can't kill off the whole race and i want to see what a full zerg rush can do to a reaper can a guy dream

[Galkan]

ZehnWaters wrote...

What the Council did to the Rachni and the Krogan are expressly different, Mordin explains this perfectly. Both had to be stopped. Completely obliterating them is one thing, stopping them in their tracks is another. The Council had no choice with the Krogan, their only options was to neuter them or kill them; the Krogan would have fought to the end.

Did bioware hire you to make that statement it sounds like you worked IRL with Mordin. 

That statement is ridiculous. I loved the option to spare Mordin's apprentice in ME2. I practically only got ME2 to save the krogan and bring them back into honest living.

[Dragoonlordz]

Galkan wrote...

ZehnWaters wrote...

What the Council did to the Rachni and the Krogan are expressly different, Mordin explains this perfectly. Both had to be stopped. Completely obliterating them is one thing, stopping them in their tracks is another. The Council had no choice with the Krogan, their only options was to neuter them or kill them; the Krogan would have fought to the end.

Did bioware hire you to make that statement it sounds like you worked IRL with Mordin. 

That statement is ridiculous. I loved the option to spare Mordin's apprentice in ME2. I practically only got ME2 to save the krogan and bring them back into honest living.

Mordin indoctrinated him.

[Galkan]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Galkan wrote...

ZehnWaters wrote...

What the Council did to the Rachni and the Krogan are expressly different, Mordin explains this perfectly. Both had to be stopped. Completely obliterating them is one thing, stopping them in their tracks is another. The Council had no choice with the Krogan, their only options was to neuter them or kill them; the Krogan would have fought to the end.

Did bioware hire you to make that statement it sounds like you worked IRL with Mordin. 

That statement is ridiculous. I loved the option to spare Mordin's apprentice in ME2. I practically only got ME2 to save the krogan and bring them back into honest living.

Mordin indoctrinated him.

Very true there both agents for the reaper that need to be taken care of in ME3. lol

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Mordin is goddamn right! Nuff said!

[Dragoonlordz]

You will be begging for them to return and regret killing them, when the fly monsters invade.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 07 février 2012 - 07:01 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

Klijpope wrote...
As a spectre she has the authority, but also the responsibility, to fight for all COUNCIL species.

Fixed.