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[WizenSlinky0]

RVallant wrote...


Well... AFAIK, no diplomacy has ever occured between Rachni Queens and other sentinent races (outside of the barrel of a gun). So, here was a queen against the norm, proving the council/codex information to be sketchy/unreliable again.

To be fair I'd have killed her if she wasn't sentinent... Also, she would be a useful counter-weight against the Krogan in the future. That's what I gathered from ME2! I believe the first time I played I let her go for the first reason and later scenarios (once I'd completed ME1 and started 2) made me think that's probably the right choice.

It'd be pretty ironic if after throwing the Krogan at the Rachni problem, we threw the Rachni at the Krogan problem.

[incinerator950]

I do believe the Revo Catapult should use Rachni as ammunition.

[The JoeMan]

Angus Cousland wrote...

But on the other hand, the best indicator of the future is the past. And a race vulnerable to indoctrination on a mass scale could easily be turned against the galaxy once again, providing the Reapers with that ally instead.

I think I'll ponder on it for a little longer (something Bioware games do have a tendency to make me do).

The thing is that indoctrination isn't the only problem.  If they're indoctrinated they go crazy and attack, if they grow up away from the queen they go crazy and attack, if they find a mercenary ship holding an asari hostage they go crazy and attack (according to the asari you meet on Ilium), they're extremely territorial so if anyone shows up in there system by accident they'd probably go crazy and attack, they have mind control capabilities, spit acid....  It took over 1000 years and the krogan to drive them back the first time.  I'm not willing to put the galaxy through that again.

[WizenSlinky0]

The JoeMan wrote...

Angus Cousland wrote...

But on the other hand, the best indicator of the future is the past. And a race vulnerable to indoctrination on a mass scale could easily be turned against the galaxy once again, providing the Reapers with that ally instead.

I think I'll ponder on it for a little longer (something Bioware games do have a tendency to make me do).

The thing is that indoctrination isn't the only problem.  If they're indoctrinated they go crazy and attack, if they grow up away from the queen they go crazy and attack, if they find a mercenary ship holding an asari hostage they go crazy and attack (according to the asari you meet on Ilium), they're extremely territorial so if anyone shows up in there system by accident they'd probably go crazy and attack, they have mind control capabilities, spit acid....  It took over 1000 years and the krogan to drive them back the first time.  I'm not willing to put the galaxy through that again.

But it's sooo muuuuch fuuuun.

[Ricvenart]

I honestly felt sorry for her.
Other then that she wasn't invovled with the war, it wasn't her crime to pay for, Shepard or anyone doesn't seem to know enough about them to know they are inheritly violent but even the people at the station said they only went nuts like that when seperated from thier mothers. On top of it not being her crime, the war, it sounded not unlike the first contact war, the only difference being communication and not looking creepy which is why we weren't wiped out. I think Mordin says some key points on this, that the universe demands diversity and control is better then extinction, which makes you wonder why they didn't try that first or whether if it came to it they might this time round in regret of thier first choice.
Theres plenty of reasons to spare her but only one to kill her and thats something she didn't do. She's clearly sentient, intelligent, possibly with much to share with the universe including defense theres only the question of the sencerity of her apology and statement that it wasn't like them. If it was you'd think they'd have spoke though someone, unless you know they lost ability due to control.

[Izhalezan]

I've got a shep of every origin/story so shes lived and died a few times.

[The JoeMan]

I felt sorry for her too but ultimately my take on it is that they decision was made a long time ago that the extinction of the rachni was in the best interest of the galaxy.  The people who made that decision did not do so lightly, I'm sure.  It is not up to me, someone who wasn't around at the time to second guess that decision.

[Mr. C]

I killed her. If we had a legion of Krogan in the sidelines, I may have considered letting her go. But now that no other species can match Rachni birthrates, it's too much of a gamble; especially when we don't know if she was telling the truth or not. Maybe her "They were indoctrinated!!1" excuse was a ruse to garner sympathy and/or trust?

[Mr_Steph]

Canon Shep killed her. Didn't want to risk another Rachni war.
Heavy paragons saved her and heavy renegades killed her after that playthrough.

[Homebound]

i let her live because i dont have the authority to condemn a species into extinction.

[Megaton_Hope]

Well, I'm kind of ambivalent about this one. My gut says that she should be saved, but encountering the male "Brood Warriors" on one of the Cerberus quests, and her apparent ability to control and rewrite minds, give me pause in that belief.

What has the most weight with me is her race memory that there was another voice that sounded a "sour yellow note" which led the Rachni into conflict the last time - which sounds, to me, a lot like Reaper indoctrination. Promises to "be good this time" are of little value, if previously they chose of their own volition to wage a war to exterminate the Council races...but if it was an alien force, well, humans, Turians and Asari (including Matriarchs) have proven as vulnerable. At worst, it's just another Rachni War, except with forewarning and a drastically weaker Rachni threat.

May even motivate the revocation of the Genophage, which could mean only good things.

[CaptainZaysh]

Hellbound555 wrote...

i let her live because i dont have the authority to condemn a species into extinction.

Actually, as a SPECTRE, you specifically do.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

I believed her, and regardless, not killing me on release and the extensive chat we had was fair enough convincing, perhaps I'm too trusting, sure TIM you can have the Reaper facility

[CaptainZaysh]

Megaton_Hope wrote...

May even motivate the revocation of the Genophage, which could mean only good things.

Yes.  Increasing the birth rate of a race of tribal 1-ton lizards that glorify violence by a factor of 1000 can only lead to good things.  Zero chance of a negative outcome with that one.

[Eski.Moe]

Yep, as doing so would lead to the most potentially exciting outcome when talking about it in terms of the story. Something has gotta happen.

[Jilinna]

I couldn't do it. I almost did on my more recent one's but before I choose I watched the clip on YouTube and it made me sick I couldn't do it. I will not commit genocide because of the sins of past generations, and something she herself was not apart of. Though I had Wrex with me and he said "bugs are singing songs about you now. Mark my words your going to regret this" which made me feel like the game was hinting I did the wrong thing but will see.

If it comes back to kick me in the butt so be it I will kill her in 3 if It comes down to it, but in #1 I can't justify it. Just my personal opinion. I understand the people that do kill her but I just can't do it.

Modifié par Jilinna, 06 février 2012 - 03:56 .

[varterral]

Killed her, I hate insects. Death to exoskeleton scum.

[CaptainZaysh]

Eski.Moe wrote...

Yep, as doing so would lead to the most potentially exciting outcome when talking about it in terms of the story. Something has gotta happen.

That's fair, but how would you have made the decision in real life?

[Virgil88]

Thanks to Ender's Game series, I did not commit genocide.

Silly, silly me.

[CaptainZaysh]

Jilinna wrote...

I couldn't do it. I almost did on my more recent one's but before I choice I watched the clip on Youtube and made me sick I couldn't do it. I will not comit genoicde because of the sins of past generations, and something she herself was not apart of.

If it comes back to kick me in the butt so be it I will kill her in 3 if It comes down to it, but in #1 I can't justify it. Just my personal opinon. I understand the people that do kill her but I just can't do it.

It's okay, not everyone's cut out for wet work.  ;-)

[CaptainZaysh]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

You're mixing ethical/moral issue with legal issues.

That's interesting.  So are you answering not to senior commanders but to a higher authority, like a god or something?