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[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

floppypig wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

JUST TO PUT AN END TO THIS ARGUMENT ...

In ME2 she has a messenger/servant/slave talk to you and essentially say the Rachni stand with you before the end or whatever...therefore regardless of what you did, freeing her was the correct choice, even if not the most logical/sound at the time. If she didn't intend to honor her statements she would have remained in exile/hidden and not have servants address Shepard.

That doesn't put an end to anything. What if the queen gets indoctrinated in ME3? 

There's also the post-reaper time to think about (assuming there is a post-reaper time). 

As a quick reply, what if Shepard gets indoctrinated ....what if the entire Alliance gets indoctrinated, etc etc.

It makes no sense to that effect, plus I figure it unlikely to occur especially based on how much they have to cover in ME3

At the time of her request, nobody could say for sure the outcome, but regardless the queen herself has good intentions, so I think that is sufficient enough in my books to say correct choice, also saves the species regardless.

[WhiteKnyght]

Rachni queen is dead in my import save.

Read GameInformer's article about ME3 and the author mentioned battling rachni so I figure better safe than sorry with the aggressive alien bugs.

I also figured better safe than sorry with the Geth. Destroyed the Heretics because 1, I like the Quarians and rewriting the Heretics makes it harder for them, and 2, I don't entirely trust Legion. For all we know he could be a Heretic Infiltrator and we could be reprogramming the true Geth.

[goofyomnivore]

I let her go. Ideally I could of picked 'secure area until the Council's troops arrive' and just have them decide what to do. But I figured by letting it go if the Council wanted to capture/kill the Rachni Queen they would have a pretty good shot at it.

With it being a bug on an ice planet with no ship for at least a little while. Not too many places to hide you would think while it makes babies to make her ship.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Collider wrote...

Like I said, that's after Shepard makes the decision.

freeing her was the correct choice, even if not the most logical/sound at the time.

I think you are trying to annoy me now :/

Nobody could have known at the time, its a leap of faith, which for this situation paid off.

[floppypig]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

floppypig wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

JUST TO PUT AN END TO THIS ARGUMENT ...

In ME2 she has a messenger/servant/slave talk to you and essentially say the Rachni stand with you before the end or whatever...therefore regardless of what you did, freeing her was the correct choice, even if not the most logical/sound at the time. If she didn't intend to honor her statements she would have remained in exile/hidden and not have servants address Shepard.

That doesn't put an end to anything. What if the queen gets indoctrinated in ME3? 

There's also the post-reaper time to think about (assuming there is a post-reaper time). 

As a quick reply, what if Shepard gets indoctrinated ....what if the entire Alliance gets indoctrinated, etc etc.

It makes no sense to that effect, plus I figure it unlikely to occur especially based on how much they have to cover in ME3

At the time of her request, nobody could say for sure the outcome, but regardless the queen herself has good intentions, so I think that is sufficient enough in my books to say correct choice, also saves the species regardless.

Fair enough. In my opinion though, they are  a risk I'm not willing to take. 

Also, I'm not 100% sure, but aren't Rachni extremely susceptible to indoctrination? More so than the other races? I'm vaugley remembering that from somewhere...

EDIT: also Shepard indoctrinated, although dangerous, is not quite as dangerous as a large indoctrinated bug who reproduces like a bunny mind controls a horde of smaller, but still sizeable, alien bugs. 

Modifié par floppypig, 06 février 2012 - 06:34 .

[Nobezy]

floppypig wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

floppypig wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

JUST TO PUT AN END TO THIS ARGUMENT ...

In ME2 she has a messenger/servant/slave talk to you and essentially say the Rachni stand with you before the end or whatever...therefore regardless of what you did, freeing her was the correct choice, even if not the most logical/sound at the time. If she didn't intend to honor her statements she would have remained in exile/hidden and not have servants address Shepard.

That doesn't put an end to anything. What if the queen gets indoctrinated in ME3? 

There's also the post-reaper time to think about (assuming there is a post-reaper time). 

As a quick reply, what if Shepard gets indoctrinated ....what if the entire Alliance gets indoctrinated, etc etc.

It makes no sense to that effect, plus I figure it unlikely to occur especially based on how much they have to cover in ME3

At the time of her request, nobody could say for sure the outcome, but regardless the queen herself has good intentions, so I think that is sufficient enough in my books to say correct choice, also saves the species regardless.

Fair enough. In my opinion though, they are  a risk I'm not willing to take. 

Also, I'm not 100% sure, but aren't Rachni extremely susceptible to indoctrination? More so than the other races? I'm vaugley remembering that from somewhere...

Never heard that in my life.

[floppypig]

Nobezy wrote...

floppypig wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

floppypig wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

JUST TO PUT AN END TO THIS ARGUMENT ...

In ME2 she has a messenger/servant/slave talk to you and essentially say the Rachni stand with you before the end or whatever...therefore regardless of what you did, freeing her was the correct choice, even if not the most logical/sound at the time. If she didn't intend to honor her statements she would have remained in exile/hidden and not have servants address Shepard.

That doesn't put an end to anything. What if the queen gets indoctrinated in ME3? 

There's also the post-reaper time to think about (assuming there is a post-reaper time). 

As a quick reply, what if Shepard gets indoctrinated ....what if the entire Alliance gets indoctrinated, etc etc.

It makes no sense to that effect, plus I figure it unlikely to occur especially based on how much they have to cover in ME3

At the time of her request, nobody could say for sure the outcome, but regardless the queen herself has good intentions, so I think that is sufficient enough in my books to say correct choice, also saves the species regardless.

Fair enough. In my opinion though, they are  a risk I'm not willing to take. 

Also, I'm not 100% sure, but aren't Rachni extremely susceptible to indoctrination? More so than the other races? I'm vaugley remembering that from somewhere...

Never heard that in my life.

I swear I'm almost certain....

[Nobezy]

floppypig wrote...

Nobezy wrote...

floppypig wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

floppypig wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

JUST TO PUT AN END TO THIS ARGUMENT ...

In ME2 she has a messenger/servant/slave talk to you and essentially say the Rachni stand with you before the end or whatever...therefore regardless of what you did, freeing her was the correct choice, even if not the most logical/sound at the time. If she didn't intend to honor her statements she would have remained in exile/hidden and not have servants address Shepard.

That doesn't put an end to anything. What if the queen gets indoctrinated in ME3? 

There's also the post-reaper time to think about (assuming there is a post-reaper time). 

As a quick reply, what if Shepard gets indoctrinated ....what if the entire Alliance gets indoctrinated, etc etc.

It makes no sense to that effect, plus I figure it unlikely to occur especially based on how much they have to cover in ME3

At the time of her request, nobody could say for sure the outcome, but regardless the queen herself has good intentions, so I think that is sufficient enough in my books to say correct choice, also saves the species regardless.

Fair enough. In my opinion though, they are  a risk I'm not willing to take. 

Also, I'm not 100% sure, but aren't Rachni extremely susceptible to indoctrination? More so than the other races? I'm vaugley remembering that from somewhere...

Never heard that in my life.

I swear I'm almost certain....

I'm fresh off two ME1 and one ME2 playthroughs, and I'm almost certain I never heard it. It may be in some codex however?

Modifié par Nobezy, 06 février 2012 - 06:37 .

[ZehnWaters]

Nobezy wrote...

floppypig wrote...
Fair enough. In my opinion though, they are  a risk I'm not willing to take. 

Also, I'm not 100% sure, but aren't Rachni extremely susceptible to indoctrination? More so than the other races? I'm vaugley remembering that from somewhere...

Never heard that in my life.

Yeah, don't even the Cerberus scientists say that even the individual, non-queen Rachni were independant and intelligent?

Modifié par ZehnWaters, 06 février 2012 - 06:38 .

[floppypig]

Nobezy wrote...

floppypig wrote...

Nobezy wrote...

floppypig wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

floppypig wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

JUST TO PUT AN END TO THIS ARGUMENT ...

In ME2 she has a messenger/servant/slave talk to you and essentially say the Rachni stand with you before the end or whatever...therefore regardless of what you did, freeing her was the correct choice, even if not the most logical/sound at the time. If she didn't intend to honor her statements she would have remained in exile/hidden and not have servants address Shepard.

That doesn't put an end to anything. What if the queen gets indoctrinated in ME3? 

There's also the post-reaper time to think about (assuming there is a post-reaper time). 

As a quick reply, what if Shepard gets indoctrinated ....what if the entire Alliance gets indoctrinated, etc etc.

It makes no sense to that effect, plus I figure it unlikely to occur especially based on how much they have to cover in ME3

At the time of her request, nobody could say for sure the outcome, but regardless the queen herself has good intentions, so I think that is sufficient enough in my books to say correct choice, also saves the species regardless.

Fair enough. In my opinion though, they are  a risk I'm not willing to take. 

Also, I'm not 100% sure, but aren't Rachni extremely susceptible to indoctrination? More so than the other races? I'm vaugley remembering that from somewhere...

Never heard that in my life.

I swear I'm almost certain....

I'm fresh off two ME1 and one ME2 playthroughs, and I'm almost certain I never heard it. It may be in some codex however?

Na, I never really read the codexes. Hmm, maybe I'm wrong. 

Lol, wonder where i got that idea from...

[Nobezy]

ZehnWaters wrote...

Nobezy wrote...

floppypig wrote...
Fair enough. In my opinion though, they are  a risk I'm not willing to take. 

Also, I'm not 100% sure, but aren't Rachni extremely susceptible to indoctrination? More so than the other races? I'm vaugley remembering that from somewhere...

Never heard that in my life.

Yeah, don't even the Cerberus scientists say that even the individual, non-queen Rachni were independant and intelligent?

Yep, that and they can repopulate extremely fast. 

[King Killoth]

My Shep is all about doing what it takes to save more lives than it costs to finish the mission that said I could not bring myself to kill a sentient life form trapped in a tank. she never did anything to wrong me so I let her live and she has been good to her word and even helped a women that crashed on their new homeworld. so I think the rachni will make for a strong ally in this war

[Zeebaas]

floppypig wrote...
Fair enough. In my opinion though, they are  a risk I'm not willing to take. 

Also, I'm not 100% sure, but aren't Rachni extremely susceptible to indoctrination? More so than the other races? I'm vaugley remembering that from somewhere...

EDIT: also Shepard indoctrinated, although dangerous, is not quite as dangerous as a large indoctrinated bug who reproduces like a bunny mind controls a horde of smaller, but still sizeable, alien bugs.

By your logic we should kill off anyone who poses to much of a threat should they get indoctrinated.

[The JoeMan]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Collider wrote...

Like I said, that's after Shepard makes the decision.

freeing her was the correct choice, even if not the most logical/sound at the time.

I think you are trying to annoy me now :/

Nobody could have known at the time, its a leap of faith, which for this situation paid off.

We still don't know if it was the correct choice or not.  All we know is that if she is saved she pledges to help against the reapers.  We don't know how the other races, particularly the krogan, will react to the return of the rachni.  It could cause a huge schizm that threatens the entire war effort.  We don't know how effective the rachni will be during the war.  We also have the think about galactic security after the war.  I haven't read the leaked script and I'd really rather not know if you have or not but as it stands right now I'm comfortable with my decision to kill the queen.

[ZehnWaters]

Isn't there a preview that has the Rachni Queen for ME3?

And how do you do spoiler text?

Modifié par ZehnWaters, 06 février 2012 - 07:12 .

[floppypig]

Zeebaas wrote...

floppypig wrote...
Fair enough. In my opinion though, they are  a risk I'm not willing to take. 

Also, I'm not 100% sure, but aren't Rachni extremely susceptible to indoctrination? More so than the other races? I'm vaugley remembering that from somewhere...

EDIT: also Shepard indoctrinated, although dangerous, is not quite as dangerous as a large indoctrinated bug who reproduces like a bunny mind controls a horde of smaller, but still sizeable, alien bugs.

By your logic we should kill off anyone who poses to much of a threat should they get indoctrinated.

No, by my logic we should kill of anyone who is most likely going to get rejected by the galaxy and probably attacked after the Reaper-fiasco is over. As well as the fact that they pose a threat if indoctrinated. Also, remember, the other races aren't hive minds. Ally you'd have to do is indoctrinate "one" Rachni (the queen) and all of them are against you. Now that is a BIG risk. 

[JasonDaPsycho]

Can't kill her myself. Here's my thought process.
We are in an extremely tough fight against the Reaper and the odds are not in favor of us. If we are to kick their behinds, we need as much help as we can get. The Reaper will defeat us even without indoctrinating the rachni queen, we might as well as keep her alive and take the 50% chance that she'll back us up when it matters the most. Same reason why I decided to rewrite the Geths instead of blowing them sky-high.

[shenlonzero]

SpectreSaren wrote...

If you let her live, which I did, you get a message from an Asari about her in ME2. On Illium. So far she has kept her word.

There's no doubt that Rachni are the creepiest creatures in the Mass Effect universe, though.

2nd creepiest...behind the space cow that robs you.

[ashwind]

I always let her go. Who am I to decide the faith of an entire species. And if they come back, I am sure I can shoot them back to oblivion, no biggie, just a minor inconvenience. =P

[Arppis]

I believe in second chances. And it seems like they aren't mindless monsters you'd think. You could comunicate with them.

And she was really the last of her species.

Modifié par Arppis, 06 février 2012 - 09:25 .

[mybudgee]

Killed her... my first in line Shep, the female- liara lovin-renegade-vanguard-badass just didn't feel all that charitable that day on Noveria...

[Solo_Wing_Fenix]

Ryncol wrote...

I let her go under the assumption that at some point in the ME franchise, she will finally be a LI, enabling me to be her Rachni King and we ride off into the stars at the ending credits. Don't let me down ME3.

man is it just me or are there alot of people that are in to the weridest s*** on here, i mean honestly???? a bug???? come on what is appealing about that??? *gets queasy at the thought*

[tetrisblock4x1]

I set it free because Bioware games always reward the good side players more than the bad side. Don't argue with me on this, I've played just about every game of Biowares since Baldurs Gate and that has been a consistent trend throughout Biowares history.

Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 06 février 2012 - 09:47 .

[Kasen]

If your reasoning for killing the Rachni Queen, or even a majority of Renegade decisions, is anything more than "it's just a game", it's very disturbing in my book. There's a few exceptions, but not many.

Can't say I'm surprised though, nearly every war in our history consists of otherwise normal people justifying horrible decisions. The fact that a normal person will sit there and continue to use electric shock on another person while they are screaming and begging to be released, just because the "researcher" behind them says to continue, speaks to that very fact.

[Jynthor]

Let her live.
-Didn't want to commit genocide.
-Rachni culture is interesting and I want to know more.
-Useful troops against the Reapers.
And finally, acid is just a terrible way to die...