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[bluewolv1970]

 when the game itself is was rushed, still needs patching ( a year later,) and resolution to a  bizzare and incomplete ending...I mean it is great that david gaider is writing comics and doing interviews (where it is admitted the game was rushed) and yet no one is writing the clean up to the mess that was/is act three...

[cephasjames]

Hmmm. To bring awareness to their product? To attempt to make Dragon Age a "household" name like D&D? To make more money so they can make more Dragon Age products? Etc, etc, etc?

Modifié par cephasjames, 06 février 2012 - 03:08 .

[Icinix]

Not sure - but BioWares love of Anime and Comics and their subsequent impact on ME and DA are freaking me out a little.

[FrostyLazer]

Because an franchise is worth a lot more money then just a singel player game.

[Ponendus]

I think it's because they are in it for the long haul. They want DA to be around for a long time and so want it to penetrate every medium possible.

I'm not complaining personally. I think the world is fantastic.

[JasonPogo]

Ponendus wrote...

I think it's because they are in it for the long haul. They want DA to be around for a long time and so want it to penetrate every medium possible.

I'm not complaining personally. I think the world is fantastic.

I would agree with that but DA2 being so rushed really hurt it in the long run.  The casual gamer is not going to care about a comic for some mediocer game.  I agree that Bioware needs to really pull their heads out of the sky and make DA3 something great or no ome will care about all the other stuff.

[nightscrawl]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

 when the game itself is was rushed, still needs patching ( a year later,) and resolution to a  bizzare and incomplete ending...I mean it is great that david gaider is writing comics and doing interviews (where it is admitted the game was rushed) and yet no one is writing the clean up to the mess that was/is act three...

David Gaider is not the only writer on staff, nor is he the person responsible for making such decisions as writing a new ending to a game.

As for the novel, comic, and anime, I highly doubt that Bioware's entire DA team were involved with those at all. They aren't game material, they are tie-ins, all three of which are being released by third parties. Of course there will be some care that the world of DA is the same across all forms of media, but it hardly would require their entire production team. Indeed, this anime has probably been in development for months (or longer), the same time that Bioware was also working on Legacy and MotA DLC content.

The anime is coinciding with the release of DA2 in Japan, a novel and comic can be translated into other languages far easier than hiring additional voice actors. It's great marketing. This is a world of products and tie-ins. The very first commercial break after the Super Bowl was over there was an ad to go buy your Super Bowl XLVI NY Giants victory tees, hats, etc on NFL.com... It's just how it is.

JasonPogo wrote...

I agree that Bioware needs to really pull their heads out of the sky and make DA3 something great or no ome will care about all the other stuff.

You don't know that they aren't though. They've been silent for a while about any upcoming content. People here on the BSN have been speculating for some time now whether there will be additional DLC, a 1.04 patch, work on DA3, or anything new. The very best that we've got is a fun panel discussion at the NY Comic Con.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 06 février 2012 - 11:10 .

[whykikyouwhy]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

 when the game itself is was rushed, still needs patching ( a year later,) and resolution to a  bizzare and incomplete ending...I mean it is great that david gaider is writing comics and doing interviews (where it is admitted the game was rushed) and yet no one is writing the clean up to the mess that was/is act three...

If you're calling for "resolution to a bizarre and incomplete ending" then books, comics, anime, and additional DLC are part of what will eventually add to the narrative. The ending of DA2 was a cliffhanger to set up events for the world, not necessarily the individual characters - so as Bioware releases more chapters of that larger narrative, in whatever form, we get to see the bigger picture.

As far as Act 3 being a "mess" that needs cleaning up ... well, that's a matter of opinion.

[mousestalker]

Has Mr. Gaider written any comic books? I thought the comics were written by Mr. Card, as a free-lancer?

[TheChris92]

Usually when establishing a universe it is interesting to branch out, and explore it, by presenting all of the content, all of the possibilities, within the said universe which can be accomplished through different types of media. Perhaps there are some areas which the main media hasn't thoroughly explored, and thus a book could helpfully delve into it. In books it's possible to elaborate on questions, which might have been raised, where the answers can't be found in the games/movies the said book is based on. Star Wars has done this, so of course it should be possible to do it with Dragon Age as well or any other setting.

[Yrkoon]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

bluewolv1970 wrote...

 when the game itself is was rushed, still needs patching ( a year later,) and resolution to a  bizzare and incomplete ending...I mean it is great that david gaider is writing comics and doing interviews (where it is admitted the game was rushed) and yet no one is writing the clean up to the mess that was/is act three...

If you're calling for "resolution to a bizarre and incomplete ending" then books, comics, anime, and additional DLC are part of what will eventually add to the narrative. The ending of DA2 was a cliffhanger to set up events for the world, not necessarily the individual characters - so as Bioware releases more chapters of that larger narrative, in whatever form, we get to see the bigger picture.
  

Sure, if we're willing to spend our time reading/watching these little gimmick  side projects that they keep doing.

I can't imagine the average gamer  actually bothering though.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 06 février 2012 - 12:09 .

[Merilsell]

mousestalker wrote...

Has Mr. Gaider written any comic books? I thought the comics were written by Mr. Card, as a free-lancer?

The upcoming comic with Alistair is writtten by Gaider, AFAIK

[CrazyRah]

First and foremost it's for the money. They wouldn't do it if it wasn't for that. Then they might do it because they want to expand the universe, making it bigger and even more awesome.

[whykikyouwhy]

Yrkoon wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...

bluewolv1970 wrote...

 when the game itself is was rushed, still needs patching ( a year later,) and resolution to a  bizzare and incomplete ending...I mean it is great that david gaider is writing comics and doing interviews (where it is admitted the game was rushed) and yet no one is writing the clean up to the mess that was/is act three...

If you're calling for "resolution to a bizarre and incomplete ending" then books, comics, anime, and additional DLC are part of what will eventually add to the narrative. The ending of DA2 was a cliffhanger to set up events for the world, not necessarily the individual characters - so as Bioware releases more chapters of that larger narrative, in whatever form, we get to see the bigger picture.
  

Sure, if we're willing to spend our time reading/watching these little gimmick  side projects that they keep doing.

I can't imagine the average gamer  actually bothering though.

I guess that depends on how you want to define the "average gamer." The gamers I know actually enjoy books and comics and the like.

[bleetman]

Because he's a writer. And being a writer, he's probably going to write things from time to time.

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[Shevy]

scyphozoa wrote...

Yeah, I have no problem with potatoes and green beans on the side as long as the steak is properly cooked. I'd like to see a little more emphasis on the main course and a little less on the appetizers.

I have to second this.

[DiTHmaphacks]

scyphozoa wrote...

Yeah, I have no problem with potatoes and green beans on the side as long as the steak is properly cooked. I'd like to see a little more emphasis on the main course and a little less on the appetizers.

So YOU whine at the Cook that is making the steak that the other Cook that is making the green beans is bad?The people working on graphics/gameplay/systems/backgrounds have absolutely nothing to do with the anime or the books.

You propably need 1-2 writers from the team that is making the game to make those so its np.

[JasonPogo]

DiTHmaphacks wrote...

scyphozoa wrote...

Yeah, I have no problem with potatoes and green beans on the side as long as the steak is properly cooked. I'd like to see a little more emphasis on the main course and a little less on the appetizers.

So YOU whine at the Cook that is making the steak that the other Cook that is making the green beans is bad?The people working on graphics/gameplay/systems/backgrounds have absolutely nothing to do with the anime or the books.

You propably need 1-2 writers from the team that is making the game to make those so its np.

I think you are missing the point.  Bioware as a companie is spending time and money on these other ventures when they cheeped out on DA2.

[Yrkoon]

There's also some overlap that, while I'm sure others just love, I don't. At all.

Mark of the Assassin (for example) was about Felecia Day,  when it probably should have been about DA2's   protagonist(s) instead.  But that's what happens when you focus too much on   "branching out".

Modifié par Yrkoon, 06 février 2012 - 01:05 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Honestly, what they are doing is reminding me of Heroes at this point - all kinds of side projects and other mediums, like the comics, the online series, the branching stories...

...it starts out as cool and as a way to "explore the world..." but in reality, it just stirs up plot lines that never get resolved or have meaning, muddles the overall narrative and distracts from the end product, which suffers and then is given the axe when fans are tired of the main attraction not delivering.

[Uzzy]

Because they want to tell stories without us players getting in the way with our annoying continuity and wanting choices to be respected.

[DJRackham]

Uzzy wrote...

Because they want to tell stories without us players getting in the way with our annoying continuity and wanting choices to be respected.

QFT 

[bluewolv1970]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

bluewolv1970 wrote...

 when the game itself is was rushed, still needs patching ( a year later,) and resolution to a  bizzare and incomplete ending...I mean it is great that david gaider is writing comics and doing interviews (where it is admitted the game was rushed) and yet no one is writing the clean up to the mess that was/is act three...

If you're calling for "resolution to a bizarre and incomplete ending" then books, comics, anime, and additional DLC are part of what will eventually add to the narrative. The ending of DA2 was a cliffhanger to set up events for the world, not necessarily the individual characters - so as Bioware releases more chapters of that larger narrative, in whatever form, we get to see the bigger picture.

As far as Act 3 being a "mess" that needs cleaning up ... well, that's a matter of opinion.

So the ending to the video game I purchased is a comic? Lovely

[bluewolv1970]

JasonPogo wrote...

Ponendus wrote...

I think it's because they are in it for the long haul. They want DA to be around for a long time and so want it to penetrate every medium possible.

I'm not complaining personally. I think the world is fantastic.

I would agree with that but DA2 being so rushed really hurt it in the long run.  The casual gamer is not going to care about a comic for some mediocer game.  I agree that Bioware needs to really pull their heads out of the sky and make DA3 something great or no ome will care about all the other stuff.

agreed