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Was it worth writing and recording a femshep?


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Costin_Razvan wrote...
How the bloody hell does advocating cutting down femshep mean advocating having more of the bloody rest? Choices, dialoge, armors, cinematics? That's my argument, I want more of other stuff then two genders.

Every BioWare game I have played since Baldur's Gate has given me a choice to play as a female. I remember when every Ultima game also gave me the choice to play as a female and how crushed I felt when that choice was taken from me in Ultima VIII, which many Ultima fans will mark as the start of that particular series (and the developer's) downfall.

So you've stated what you want.

I'd also like more choices. More dialogue. Great cinematics, though I don't think BioWare needs to be taking any cues from Square Enix there. My desire for armor only goes so far in that I'd like squadmates to have some, and I'll sacrifice customization if it means they'll wear a helmet. But I also want what BioWare has always given me, which is the choice of gender. They gained me as a loyal customer that way, as they have others.

Is it worth it? It's a minority, perhaps, but as many people tend to point out, it's a vocal minority. That's good publicity when treated right.

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Did you hear that?

I think that was point. It was flying way over your head.

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I don't do romances, making me the majority. This makes your desires invalid.

Deal with it.


Hm...how does the genophage sound to you? If the majority ceases to have children, my children shall be the majority!

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Fiend! You would commit such an act!?

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Pacifien wrote...


Is it worth it? It's a minority, perhaps, but as many people tend to point out, it's a vocal minority. That's good publicity when treated right.


That's right! Be loud enough, and it won't matter how insignificant you are. :P

Guys, think of it this way: it serves as a means to take some heat off us. Really, it does. 

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Random Jerkface wrote...

Fiend! You would commit such an act!?


Huhu, not at all. I will simply use it as a detterant so you agree with my decisions.

However, I can not be so sure my friend will not deploy it...

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Is it worth it? It's a minority, perhaps, but as many people tend to point out, it's a vocal minority. That's good publicity when treated right.


In the end Bioware will pick whatever drives their sales, and I know that, but ultimately I want a higher quality game and I don't care about the gender option that much as others do.

 
I'd also like more choices. More dialogue. 


For these two they could very damned well look at Alpha Protocol and the Witcher. One thing that needs be said about Bioware though: Obsidian beats the crap out of them in storytelling, and Obsidian has games where you can pick a gender. ( Kotor 2, Dungeon Siege 3, Fallout New Vegas ).

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 07 février 2012 - 04:45 .


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Did you hear that?

I think that was point. It was flying way over your head.

Oh, you mean how the lack of a female Shepard trailer is somehow a conspiracy? That the fact she is even getting a trailer is also a conspiracy?

No, that's not a point, that's just idiocy. It's BSN's favorite state of being.

Modifié par Pacifien, 07 février 2012 - 04:45 .


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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Is it worth it? It's a minority, perhaps, but as many people tend to point out, it's a vocal minority. That's good publicity when treated right.


In the end Bioware will pick whatever drives their sales, and I know that, but ultimately I want a higher quality game and I don't care about the gender option that much as others do.


We all want something. That's what makes us consumers.

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Where is that Shepard trailer? What are they going to make it the launch trailer? Cause I swear if I hear Hale giving a failed attempt at an epic speech in that ( as she did in ME2, which is something that stopped me from fully enjoying FemShepard ) I'm going to want to punch someone.

I'd be interesting if they made two launch trailers though.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 07 février 2012 - 04:47 .


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Pacifien wrote...

No, that's not a point, that's just idiocy. It's BSN's favorite state of being.

I'll concede that you just made a relevant post when you point out where I said or even implied what you seem to believe I did.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Is it worth it? It's a minority, perhaps, but as many people tend to point out, it's a vocal minority. That's good publicity when treated right.


In the end Bioware will pick whatever drives their sales, and I know that, but ultimately I want a higher quality game and I don't care about the gender option that much as others do.


Yup, that's the point.  :) What's important to me isn't as important to you, and vice versa. Bioware has to walk the line between us and so far they've done a damn fine job. Upsetting the balance by cutting FemShep or romances or classes won't work and isn't going to happen, no matter how logical one side thinks it is.

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18% is not something to spit on, OP.


Those are actually quite high number.


Last year( before E3), it was confirmed that ME1 and ME2 sold over 7 million copies.

So let's split that to 3.5 million people.

18% of that is 630,000.

So that's quite a big number of potentially returning customers for ME3.

21,600,000 $ to be earn from those people in ME3.
And that's if they all buy non-used standard edition of ME3 near it's launch.
It can be even more since lot of them will buy Collector Edition.


So yeah, I'm pretty sure FemShep was worth it.


This human understands. This link has 2 million sales in the first week. I'm not sure if those are physical copies shipped or sold but that's still a lot of copies. Plus you have 2nd hand copies + pirates.

Also, this thread has taught me not to pay too much attention to anyone who uses the phrase "vocal minority".

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Costin_Razvan wrote...
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For these two they could very damned well look at Alpha Protocol and the Witcher. One thing that needs be said about Bioware though: Obsidian beats the crap out of them in storytelling, and Obsidian has games where you can pick a gender. ( Kotor 2, Dungeon Siege 3, Fallout New Vegas ).


wait wat :blink:

Can you elaborate on that statement? I am genuinely confused about how good you find Obisidian's storytelling.

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Pacifien wrote...

Random Jerkface wrote...
Did you hear that?

I think that was point. It was flying way over your head.

Oh, you mean how the lack of a female Shepard trailer is somehow a conspiracy? That the fact she is even getting a trailer is also a conspiracy?

No, that's not a point, that's just idiocy. It's BSN's favorite state of being.


Pacifien, Jerkface wasn't responding to you. He was responding to tklivory who mistook his sarcasm for an actual opinion. If you'll go back a few pages you'll see he's actually for keeping FemShep. Just arguing it in a Jerkface way. :P

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Shinobu wrote...


Pacifien, Jerkface wasn't responding to you. He was responding to tklivory who mistook his sarcasm for an actual opinion. If you'll go back a few pages you'll see he's actually for keeping FemShep. Just arguing it in a Jerkface way. :P


Bigods, someone mistook my sarcasm in response to sarcasm for an actual opinion?  *sniff*  Oh, pancakes, how you have failed me...

EDIT: Carry on.  I'll try to withhold my sarcasm to more whimsical means and less full-on photon torpedoes mode.  Apparently, the cake was mistaken for twinkies on this occasion, and likely that is my fault. :innocent:

Modifié par tklivory, 07 février 2012 - 05:15 .


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I'm female, by the way.

...Just saiyan.

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Also, pancakes are horrible.

Shame on you all.

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Are there female saiyans?

Oh, fine. Group hug, everybody!

/thread

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Haven't you heard of Pan?

...Understandable, since GT never happened.

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But... the formula still holds!

42 * pancake / 25% Saiyan = totally awesome Femshep! And the crowd cheered!

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Shinobu wrote...

Are there female saiyans?

Oh, fine. Group hug, everybody!

/thread


Well, Goku's mother, and that one female saiyan who fought with Bardock.

I dare say, Bardock didn't just poop out Goku after putting on a few pounds.

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Haven't you heard of Pan?

...Understandable, since GT never happened.

Now you're obviously just trolling. Pan was in Dragonball Z.

Oh, and @ Agitated,  One of them was named Seripa. I can't remember most of the others, arguably, it's been a long time. 

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Modifié par Danijou, 07 février 2012 - 05:33 .


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But no one remembers her from DBZ.

She only had a really prominent role in GT. Which, as you know, never happened.

So no one remembers her.

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How many of these threads are there now? The fact is, femshep is obviously worth quite a bit of money. 

Modifié par Yuqi, 07 février 2012 - 05:40 .