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#26
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tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Well it's expensive writing the extra romances and I'm sure that Jen can set the price as high as she likes considering the resume.

The statistics Bioware released a couple of years ago say that 80% played mark meer shep...

So this might be due to advertising or something, but they've had the whole trilogy to make it generally known tht there is a femshep so I don't know why they'd go 2 whole games without trying to sell it until the very late last minute attempt at a trailer for femshep that still hasn't been shown yet.


I was ready to chew your head off figureatively but you make a great point. Not a new or innovative point, but a great one nonetheless.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

It's a topic asking about the cost of making femshep relative to the statistic of only 20% of people who have that characters. Explain how starting a discussion about this is clearly a troll thread attempting to stir people up? Can you?


I think the clearest way to determine that it's a troll thread is that it was started by you.


In other words you didn't think about it or read the context of the OP.

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tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

It's a topic asking about the cost of making femshep relative to the statistic of only 20% of people who have that characters. Explain how starting a discussion about this is clearly a troll thread attempting to stir people up? Can you?


Because this string of characters appeared near the top: "tetrisblock4x1".

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tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

In other words you didn't think about it or read the context of the OP.


No, I thought about it in the context of the OP being posted by you, a troll.

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tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

It's a topic asking about the cost of making femshep relative to the statistic of only 20% of people who have that characters. Explain how starting a discussion about this is clearly a troll thread attempting to stir people up? Can you?


I think the clearest way to determine that it's a troll thread is that it was started by you.


In other words you didn't think about it or read the context of the OP.


Yes we did, that was also a huge tip-off.

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OP has it ever occured to you that some people have played as femshep after they did their male shep playthrough? My canon is a male but I have just as many female shepards as I have male shepards.

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Well, let's look at some other stats:

"83% of players created their own face for Shepard"

Is Sheploo worth it?

"The Soldier class is far and away the most popular class at 65%"

That leaves only 35% for all the other classes together.  Are they worth it?

"36% of players chose the <Renegade choice> in the end-game"

Is that enough to justify including it?

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I don't know why you think that 1/5th of a group is not a large amount, because it is in this case. If someone knows the total copies sold for ME2, and the amount of pre-orders for ME3, nows the time to break them out and estimate a total units sold, then take one-fifth of that, then multiply it by whatever EA gets from each title--maybe $30? I'm sure you'll find it's a handsome amount.

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I don't know why, but there is a lot of...hate towards female Shepard on the internet.

I'm not talking about you, OP, but I am surprised to see how some gamers dismiss female Shepard.

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Luigitornado wrote...

I don't know why, but there is a lot of...hate towards female Shepard on the internet.

I'm not talking about you, OP, but I am surprised to see how some gamers dismiss female Shepard.



Yeah and generaly you don't see the femshep fans stirring up crap, they just prefer that they have the option to have their protaganist  be female but the ignorant knuckleheads that can't see a female as a marine seem to have a big problem with that.  But those knuckleheads are just a loud mouthed minority.

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Considering that 1/5th of the people who bought Mass Effect 2 in the first week would be four hundred thousand people, uhm, no. That doesn't seem like a waste to me.

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tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Well it's expensive writing the extra romances and I'm sure that Jen can set the price as high as she likes considering the resume.

The statistics Bioware released a couple of years ago say that 80% played mark meer shep...

So this might be due to advertising or something, but they've had the whole trilogy to make it generally known tht there is a femshep so I don't know why they'd go 2 whole games without trying to sell it until the very late last minute attempt at a trailer for femshep that still hasn't been shown yet.


You do make a valid point, hyping her up for the last installment or investing disproportionate resources makes no sense, those women I know who play ME, got into the series regardless of the lead.

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Fem Shep is totally worth it, Sheena or not. ^_^

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The real reason OP is a troll imo
After every topic, instead of continuing to debate his topic, every post consists of him defending himself of being a troll.

Anyway, the point is irrelevant. I'm sure you've said on multiple occasions that EA is money grubbing. By your own logic, they would not continue to do this unless it was worth the money.

They are doing it, therefore, it is worth the marketing.

Modifié par DxWill10, 06 février 2012 - 05:39 .


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Why bother with engineers then? Hell, why bother with classes that aren't soldiers? The majority play soldiers, so the rest are just a waste of resources. Garrus is the most popular squad member, so let's just get rid of all the others too. No sense wasting time and effort putting them in, right? And most people play paragon, so let's ditch those renegade options whilst we're at it.

I yearn for the day when people recognise that the majority decision isn't the only one worth bothering with.

Modifié par bleetman, 06 février 2012 - 05:40 .


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didymos1120 wrote...

Well, let's look at some other stats:

"83% of players created their own face for Shepard"

Is Sheploo worth it?

"The Soldier class is far and away the most popular class at 65%"

That leaves only 35% for all the other classes together.  Are they worth it?

"36% of players chose the <Renegade choice> in the end-game"

Is that enough to justify including it?


They need a face for marketing. It's a requirement regardless of how many people create their own face.

To be fair, the classes could be much more distinctive. Picking a class doesn't affect the character models, animations, the way that guns work etc... I guess that the greatest costs for reating other classes are the charge and cloaking abilities because these powers are mostly exclusive to the player. Every other squad mate and enemy makes use of the abilities of each player class in some way or another.

Only 36% chose renegade, and that is reflected on how little continuity that renegade playes can enjoy between ME1 and 2 as opposed to paragons who get a lot more references and little treats in ME2 from the ME 1

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if you go to youtube 90% of videos are femshep so yeah

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Mclouvins wrote...

And just when you think Tetris can't scrape a complaint from any closer to the bottom of the barrel this arrives.

pretty much this

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didymos1120 wrote...

Well, let's look at some other stats:

"83% of players created their own face for Shepard"

Is Sheploo worth it?

"The Soldier class is far and away the most popular class at 65%"

That leaves only 35% for all the other classes together.  Are they worth it?

"36% of players chose the <Renegade choice> in the end-game"

Is that enough to justify including it?


This is a great point. If Bioware really wanted to maximize their resources they should just go for another multiplayer Halo clone. Cause according to the stats, that's what most people want.

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Lock this troll thread please.

Modifié par Darth Malice113, 06 février 2012 - 05:46 .


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bleetman wrote...

Considering that 1/5th of the people who bought Mass Effect 2 in the first week would be four hundred thousand people, uhm, no. That doesn't seem like a waste to me.


How do you know this? I remember seeing these stats on Rock, Paper Shotgun around September 2010. I didn't expect the Bioware statistics as shown by RPS to be so very outdated.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Well, let's look at some other stats:

"83% of players created their own face for Shepard"

Is Sheploo worth it?

"The Soldier class is far and away the most popular class at 65%"

That leaves only 35% for all the other classes together.  Are they worth it?

"36% of players chose the <Renegade choice> in the end-game"

Is that enough to justify including it?


1 Nope
2 Nope
3 Not like it matters either way

From a numbers standpoint he's completely correct. Having a femshep makes no sense and is largley a waste of resources. Doesn't mean I think it should be gone, I don't, but from a pure numbers standpoint, he's right.

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ediskrad327 wrote...

Mclouvins wrote...

And just when you think Tetris can't scrape a complaint from any closer to the bottom of the barrel this arrives.

pretty much this


And thirded. What on Earth is this purpose of this thread besides trolling anyway? BW has always given female players an option in their RPG games...I just... *sighs at pointless thread*

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The quickest way to start an epic mega fanrage of death on these forums, is to question femshep. You should now this by now, and have had the sense of mind to title your thread more carefully. Now as to your post, I think their original decision not to advertise femshep in the first two, is that they wanted to have a recognizable face on the cover to make it stand out. In the first game especially, I'm not sure they realized just how dedicated femshep fans would be, and didn't think it worth the money to produce two trailers and likely confuse gamers. Mass Effect is a pretty well known, established series now, and most people know about femshep. I think for ME3 it functions as fanservice to reassure doubtful players of the previous games, and encourage new players by emphasizing the selling point of a customizable story.

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20 percent playing femshep is pretty good imo.