258 réponses à ce sujet

[tetrisblock4x1]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

shunned by the same people who hate that Bioware is "appealing to the CoD crowd.

Anyone who says this is and idiot.

If they were, ME3 would be an FPS with MASSIVE plot holes, no customization and crappy multiplayer.

And they'd release one every year.

But if it had an awesome story and no multiplayer it'd be an RPG though because that's what defines them according to you? And also the option to tap that blue asari ass. No, don't answer, after reading this from you I don't think I want to talk to you anymore.

[AgitatedLemon]

King Minos wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

King Minos wrote...

To me, an RPG has loads of customisation (I'm a sucker for it), an amazing story, choices that can change the story itself (think Witcher), realistic characters and universe, alot of dialogue options and many many places to travel and explore each with a differen't atmosphere, characters etc etc.

So far from what i read, Bioware has failed on the story, dialogue options have failed (pick blue or red, i prefer Dragon Age Origins dialogue) and choices seem to have failed (Rachni come to mind).

In what ways have they "failed" anything?

The Rachni choice is useless, both end up with the same consequence, Cerberus goes evil are just examples.

The dialogue options are ****** poor, pick Blue or Red and the investigate option never gets into any real depth unlike Dragon Age Origins. The companions even ask you questions or want to learn about you, you can tell them to ****** off, no good or evil morality system just a dislike system which i prefer.

The story goes stupid as well. You know what gets teleported right next to you know what. Thingie gets a body. Thane gets cured.

Cerberus going "evil" in ME3 makes fine sense, given the context. The rachni queen is pointless only in that there are rachni husks in ME3, regardless if you killed or freed her. There's more to it.

The morality system in play is a good/evil system, but instead of having 1 bar, there are 2.

[King Minos]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

King Minos wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

King Minos wrote...

To me, an RPG has loads of customisation (I'm a sucker for it), an amazing story, choices that can change the story itself (think Witcher), realistic characters and universe, alot of dialogue options and many many places to travel and explore each with a differen't atmosphere, characters etc etc.

So far from what i read, Bioware has failed on the story, dialogue options have failed (pick blue or red, i prefer Dragon Age Origins dialogue) and choices seem to have failed (Rachni come to mind).

In what ways have they "failed" anything?

The Rachni choice is useless, both end up with the same consequence, Cerberus goes evil are just examples.

The dialogue options are ****** poor, pick Blue or Red and the investigate option never gets into any real depth unlike Dragon Age Origins. The companions even ask you questions or want to learn about you, you can tell them to ****** off, no good or evil morality system just a dislike system which i prefer.

The story goes stupid as well. You know what gets teleported right next to you know what. Thingie gets a body. Thane gets cured.

Cerberus going "evil" in ME3 makes fine sense, given the context. The rachni queen is pointless only in that there are rachni husks in ME3, regardless if you killed or freed her. There's more to it.

The morality system in play is a good/evil system, but instead of having 1 bar, there are 2.

I find the Origins system superior. You can be a dick and not be evil.

Cerberus going 'evil' does not make sense. Attemping to kill the galaxies last hope is stupid. Manipulating Shepard then betraying him near the end would of been better and more logical, sending hitmen after him straight away is downright retarded.

Cerberus' actions are questionable, however their goal is not evil. Cerberus is not evil.

[tetrisblock4x1]

It has no choices with long term consequences. Choosing the mage class in Dragon Age is a choice with long term consequence.

[AgitatedLemon]

King Minos wrote...

*snip*
I find the Origins system superior. You can be a dick and not be evil.

Cerberus going 'evil' does not make sense. Attemping to kill the galaxies last hope is stupid. Manipulating Shepard then betraying him near the end would of been better and more logical, sending hitmen after him straight away is downright retarded.

Cerberus' actions are questionable, however their goal is not evil. Cerberus is not evil.

Again, I said "Given the context". If what I've read is true, then I understand why TIM and Cerberus are hostile to Shepard. Some of their methods are questionable (They have a history of that), and their goal is head scratching (To me), but I understand why they're doing it.

And it isn't like Shepard is literally the only thing stopping the Reapers from killing everyone. In its current format, he is, but he's the main character. It'd be stupid to have it otherwise. Realistically, Shepard himself wouldn't do much against the Reapers.

[tetrisblock4x1]

Whatever. Its certainly more than narrative and dialogue choice which set the genre apart from call of duty, but it seems like people here would happily call any game without stats an RPG as long as it let them do the romantic equivalent of a bar pick up and one night stand after a couple of conversations. According to these people there is nothing else to the genre. Whats the harm in having both?

Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 06 février 2012 - 07:53 .

[Arkitekt]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Well the eighties RPGs are kind of the exact opposite of Call of Duty, so you'll have to forgive me if I laugh at the irony of those terminologies been shunned by the same people who hate that Bioware is "appealing to the CoD crowd.

So according to you either games respect the RPGs from the eighties or they are COD crowd pleasers.

Ok, I had enough of your trolling. Bye bye.

[tetrisblock4x1]

I wonder what would happen if I made a poll for BSN in general like: on a scale of 1 to 10 how much of a part do you want statistics and levelling to play in an RPG? 1 is CoD, and 10 is Dragon Age: Origins.

Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 06 février 2012 - 07:56 .

[Hunter of Legends]

King Minos wrote...
The story goes stupid as well. You know what gets teleported right next to you know what. Thingie gets a body. Thane gets cured.

None of that sounded stupid to me.

Reading between the lines does help you know.

[King Minos]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

King Minos wrote...

*snip*
I find the Origins system superior. You can be a dick and not be evil.

Cerberus going 'evil' does not make sense. Attemping to kill the galaxies last hope is stupid. Manipulating Shepard then betraying him near the end would of been better and more logical, sending hitmen after him straight away is downright retarded.

Cerberus' actions are questionable, however their goal is not evil. Cerberus is not evil.

Again, I said "Given the context". If what I've read is true, then I understand why TIM and Cerberus are hostile to Shepard. Some of their methods are questionable (They have a history of that), and their goal is head scratching (To me), but I understand why they're doing it.

And it isn't like Shepard is literally the only thing stopping the Reapers from killing everyone. In its current format, he is, but he's the main character. It'd be stupid to have it otherwise. Realistically, Shepard himself wouldn't do much against the Reapers.

I fully support them, if a few people suffer so the majority have the benefits then so be it. Overlord should of produced some critical information that show Geth can be controlled and be used a weapon if the worst happens.

Jack's treatment was bad yes and i would of personally punished the rogue Cerberus operatives, however it shows the a Human can be very powerful with biotic's and the research should be proof of that and be used in the future.

I believe in their goals to advance Humanity above the aliens. It's a galaxy where if your not dominating then your being dominated. The other species will continue to poop on us, i would hate for our species to end up like the Volus, Elcor or Hanaar. Living jokes.

All of Cerberus activities have been done so us (Humanity) can reap the benefits, if it was not for Cerberus, we would not have biotics. So what f the accidents have caused deaths, the benefits of Biotics is worth it.

[Hunter of Legends]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

shunned by the same people who hate that Bioware is "appealing to the CoD crowd.

Anyone who says this is and idiot.

If they were, ME3 would be an FPS with MASSIVE plot holes, no customization and crappy multiplayer.

And they'd release one every year.

But if it had an awesome story and no multiplayer it'd be an RPG though because that's what defines them according to you? And also the option to tap that blue asari ass. No, don't answer, after reading this from you I don't think I want to talk to you anymore.

I don't like talking to people with their heads stuck up their ass either.

[Hunter of Legends]

Arkitekt wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Well the eighties RPGs are kind of the exact opposite of Call of Duty, so you'll have to forgive me if I laugh at the irony of those terminologies been shunned by the same people who hate that Bioware is "appealing to the CoD crowd.

So according to you either games respect the RPGs from the eighties or they are COD crowd pleasers.

Ok, I had enough of your trolling. Bye bye.

He's clearly retarded or trolling.

Or both.

[Hunter of Legends]

King Minos wrote...
I find the Origins system superior. You can be a dick and not be evil.

I have an ME playthrough that is "dickish" but still a good guy.

I also have a full renegade that is still a hero.

[Xzeto]

Arkitekt wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Well the eighties RPGs are kind of the exact opposite of Call of Duty, so you'll have to forgive me if I laugh at the irony of those terminologies been shunned by the same people who hate that Bioware is "appealing to the CoD crowd.

So according to you either games respect the RPGs from the eighties or they are COD crowd pleasers.

Ok, I had enough of your trolling. Bye bye.

You called someone else a troll?

POT. KETTLE. BLACK!

Modifié par Xzeto, 06 février 2012 - 08:02 .

[Jackal7713]

Can people quit comparing ME to GOW or COD. Does it look like a bad remake of every war story ever made, no, hence not COD. Does it look like a Aliens movie where the humans are all on roids? no.

Let ME stand on its own, as it should.

Modifié par Jackal7713, 06 février 2012 - 08:01 .

[Xzeto]

and furthermore, out of curiosity, would the previous couple dozen posts be called trolling or hijacking? None of it is relevant to my original post.

[tetrisblock4x1]

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Well the eighties RPGs are kind of the exact opposite of Call of Duty, so you'll have to forgive me if I laugh at the irony of those terminologies been shunned by the same people who hate that Bioware is "appealing to the CoD crowd.

So according to you either games respect the RPGs from the eighties or they are COD crowd pleasers.

Ok, I had enough of your trolling. Bye bye.

He's clearly retarded or trolling.

Or both.

You think that narrative defines genre, your opinions are irrelevant.

Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 06 février 2012 - 08:02 .

[Hunter of Legends]

Jackal7713 wrote...

Can people quit comparing ME to GOW or COD. Does it look like a remake of every war story ever made, no, hence not COD. Does it look like a Aliens movie where the humans are all on roids? no.

Let ME stand on its own, as it should.

Mindless people with their heads up their ass can't see the differences.

They're eyes are covered in sh|t as are their opinions.

Modifié par Hunter of Legends, 06 février 2012 - 08:02 .

[AtreiyaN7]

It looks like the OP's question was answered and now everyone's going off on assorted tangents.

A) The game is a TPS, not an FPS as has been pointed out.
 There's a story mode for people who fail at shooters in any form, which means the OP doesn't have to worry about whatever supposed twitch aspect of the game might give him problems.
C) Unless you've been hiding under a rock, most people are aware of the story mode, RPG mode & action mode at this point.

[Hunter of Legends]

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Hunter of Legends wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

tetrisblock4x1 wrote...

Well the eighties RPGs are kind of the exact opposite of Call of Duty, so you'll have to forgive me if I laugh at the irony of those terminologies been shunned by the same people who hate that Bioware is "appealing to the CoD crowd.

So according to you either games respect the RPGs from the eighties or they are COD crowd pleasers.

Ok, I had enough of your trolling. Bye bye.

He's clearly retarded or trolling.

Or both.

You think that narrative defines genre, your opinions are irrelevant.

You think RPG means pointless features and needless inventory. Your opinions are irrelevant and reak of an 80's basement dweller.

Role play does not include any of that. You do exactly that...role play. I.E. make choices and pick up a character.
Surprisingly this is exactly what mass effect does.

Modifié par Hunter of Legends, 06 février 2012 - 08:03 .

[Aimi]

King Minos wrote...

I believe in their goals to advance Humanity above the aliens. It's a galaxy where if your not dominating then your being dominated. The other species will continue to poop on us, i would hate for our species to end up like the Volus, Elcor or Hanaar. Living jokes.

I think this fundamentally misunderstands both the nature of international relations systems in both the real world and fictional ones generally and the way Citadel society works in practice, but I've posted enough times about this stuff that it's gotten trite. Just registering my objection, here.

[string3r]

You mean skill based and not stat based? Well yeah, this isn't ME1 anymore.