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Ravensword wrote...
Space AIDS.


AIDS is caused by a retrovirus,  the agent Morinth would use to turn Shepard into an Ardat-Yakshi is a prion, like the one that causes mad cow disease.  Or in this case, mad asari disease.

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bobobo878 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...
Space AIDS.


AIDS is caused by a retrovirus,  the agent Morinth would use to turn Shepard into an Ardat-Yakshi is a prion, like the one that causes mad cow disease.  Or in this case, mad asari disease.


Asari space AIDS is caused by a prion. Now in Asari brain flavor.

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Well, I think if you romanced the VS you have to rebuild your relationship with them in ME3, since you kind of "broke up" on Horizon. If you romanced Liara, Tali, or Garrus you should go into the game with a romance already started, which I'm sure you can dump them for someone else if you were so inclined.... I may play around with such things later, but not in my first playthrough, Kaidan's my Shep's canon LI. Has been from the start.

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Just when you think you've seen it all on BSN........... *shakes head*
In answer to your (silly) question - No, because I am not a baby and that would be just throwing the toys out of the pram, they were right on Horizon and Shepard was a derp, Kaidan/Ashley showed more strength than anyone else by standing up for what they believed and walking away from the woman/man they loved. Cerberus were a terrorist organization and oh..... they still are...
So I will not be throwing Kaidan off the ship, I will be hoping my Shepard can say ''Ooopsie, I messed up -forgives?'' ;P <<<<<<< Before anyone has a go at me.. NOTE the winky face that indicates I am being lighthearted, no need to take this seriously....

There is always a better way than making deals with terrorists and I hate being with Cerberus in ME2.

Modifié par Jenova65, 08 février 2012 - 10:48 .


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^ What Jenova said, just with Ashley.
Then again, it's a way to roleplay that game. If you wanna dump the VS / Liara because of Horizon, you can do that, sure. It just doesn't show the best of your Shepard then. ^^

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Meh. I can't be bothered replaying the game just to see every romance outcome. I've got my two saves loyal to the VS and that's it. Youtube can do the rest. Image IPB

My Shepard is mature enough to forgive. What happened on Horizon was completely understandable. My Shepard was hurt, but won't be holding any grudges against A/K, especially at a time like this. There's more important things to focus on.

I can see why other people would want to have a messed up save and cheat on as many love interests as they can... but that's their time to waste.

Modifié par MegaBadExample, 08 février 2012 - 10:02 .


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I don't get it OP, if you were so mad at Ashley after Horizon why didn't you just go bang Miranda/Tali/Jack/Kelly? What's the point of "staying loyal" and dragging it out til ME3 to dump them, when technically you already broke up and you don't want them anymore? Unless you really didn't like any of the ME2 LIs and you're holding out for Liara or someone different in ME3.

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Well I do like to play around with possible plot paths sometimes.. so maybe in some playthrough.. but not in a main playthrough. But people seem to make too much out of the VS actions in me2. It's like people were disappointed the LI didn't fawn all over shep even though shep betrayed them by going with Cerberus. o.O

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Pordis Shepard wrote...

Well I do like to play around with possible plot paths sometimes.. so maybe in some playthrough.. but not in a main playthrough. But people seem to make too much out of the VS actions in me2. It's like people were disappointed the LI didn't fawn all over shep even though shep betrayed them by going with Cerberus. o.O


Think it has a lot to do with the issue ppl dislike characters that don't blindly follow Shepard into the fray. "Shepard is always right". Yeah ... if s/he's always right, why do we have to decide for him/her instead watching Shepard doing his/her thing? Uhh yes ... we are here to decide and we play the game with Shepard. And last time I checked I do mistakes - and therefore, Shepard does mistakes as well. My Shep definitely needs no crew of Yes Men & Yes Women. He needs someone who keeps him grounded. That's Ashley for me, Kaidan, Liara, Miranda, ... for others.

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Eon dumped Liara during LOTSB "You handed me over to Cerberus. CERBERUS! You know what they did to me!" so that's one problem solved.

Brought you back to life? Or is this SHep a colonist?

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Never intended to betray Liara and I still think I'll be faithful to her, but there is always a small chance, if f.e. Sam is going to have amazingly funny and full of wit (which works for me) dialogue options, then it's going to be really hard for me to choose between them.

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Unpleasant Implications wrote...
Brought you back to life? Or is this SHep a colonist?


This Shep's a colonist/sole survivor and he did the Toombs mission. Even took Liara. So yeah he blew up when she said she handed him over to them. As for as my HC goes their romantic relationship was shattered and it'll take a while before he even wants to be friends with her again.

LaurenShepard-N7 wrote...

I don't get it OP, if you were so mad at Ashley after Horizon why didn't you just go bang Miranda/Tali/Jack/Kelly? What's the point of "staying loyal" and dragging it out til ME3 to dump them, when technically you already broke up and you don't want them anymore? Unless you really didn't like any of the ME2 LIs and you're holding out for Liara or someone different in ME3.


Probably because he wasn't interested in Miranda/Tali/Jack/Kelly. My Shep wasn't. Doesn't mean he wants to hold out for Liara or someone different in ME3 either.

Might want to have it so Shep has a roguh break up and decides to stay single for the rest of the trilogy.

As for dragging out...Shep doesn't really have the option to break it off with A/K before ME3. Not the player's fault.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 08 février 2012 - 05:16 .


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Just when you think you've seen it all on BSN........... *shakes head*
In answer to your (silly) question - No, because I am not a baby and that would be just throwing the toys out of the pram, they were right on Horizon and Shepard was a derp, Kaidan/Ashley showed more strength than anyone else by standing up for what they believed and walking away from the woman/man they loved. Cerberus were a terrorist organization and oh..... they still are...
So I will not be throwing Kaidan off the ship, I will be hoping my Shepard can say ''Ooopsie, I messed up -forgives?'' ;P <<<<<<< Before anyone has a go at me.. NOTE the winky face that indicates I am being lighthearted, no need to take this seriously....
There is always a better way than making deals with terrorists and I hate being with Cerberus in ME2.

That's not the way I saw it.  No matter what Cerberus does in ME3, Shepard still needed them to put an end to the collector threat.  If Cerberus hadn't brought Shepard back from the dead and given him the resources to fight them, every human in Terminus space would be reaper chow.  When Kaiden told me that Cerberus was behind the collector attacks and they were using their knowledge of reapers to manipulate me, I wanted an option to remind him that in the previous game the Council had told me almost exactly the same thing about Saren.  "The reapers aren't behind this, Saren is just using a myth to manipulate you and the geth." But of course, it turned out that Saren's belief in the Reapers was not just lip service to his geth allies.  Just as the Council preferred to pin the Eden Prime crisis on the Geth, an enemy they could understand, the Virmire Surivirors preferred to pin the colonial abductions on Cerberus.  If anything, they should apologize to Shepard for being such tools to the do-nothing Citadel Council.

Modifié par bobobo878, 08 février 2012 - 06:56 .


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bobobo878 wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...
Just when you think you've seen it all on BSN........... *shakes head*
In answer to your (silly) question - No, because I am not a baby and that would be just throwing the toys out of the pram, they were right on Horizon and Shepard was a derp, Kaidan/Ashley showed more strength than anyone else by standing up for what they believed and walking away from the woman/man they loved. Cerberus were a terrorist organization and oh..... they still are...
So I will not be throwing Kaidan off the ship, I will be hoping my Shepard can say ''Ooopsie, I messed up -forgives?'' ;P <<<<<<< Before anyone has a go at me.. NOTE the winky face that indicates I am being lighthearted, no need to take this seriously....
There is always a better way than making deals with terrorists and I hate being with Cerberus in ME2.

That's not the way I saw it.  No matter what Cerberus does in ME3, Shepard still needed them to put an end to the collector threat.  If Cerberus hadn't brought Shepard back from the dead and given him the resources to fight them, every human in Terminus space would be reaper chow.  When Kaiden told me that Cerberus was behind the collector attacks and they were using their knowledge of reapers to manipulate me, I wanted an option to remind him that in the previous game the Council had told me almost exactly the same thing about Saren.  "The reapers aren't behind this, Saren is just using a myth to manipulate you and the geth." But of course, it turned out that Saren's belief in the Reapers was not just lip service to his geth allies.  Just as the Council preferred to pin the Eden Prime crisis on the Geth, an enemy they could understand, the Virmire Surivirors preferred to pin the colonial abductions on Cerberus.


Except TIM himself admits that he manipulated collectors into attacking Horizon specificaly, he was also the one to set a trap on disabled collector vessel and he is the one in posession of derelict reaper... technology he had no plans sharing with the rest of the Galaxy. He also spread rumors about Shepard, has been spreading those rumors for months... before Shepard even woke up, I'd say he started as soon as it was clear that Shepard is going to make it for sure.

that said.. I have concidered having one of my Shepards end her relationship with Kaidan in ME3, even thought techincaly she stayed loyal.  I have changed my mind since then.  instead, I'm going to see how differently it unfolds with a Shepard who saved the base.  (my primary Kaidan mancing Shepard destroyed the base)

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bobobo878 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

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If she injects you with her ardat-yakshi venom first, it means Shepard will be the proud papa of an ardat-yakshi baby.  Shepard has to be an ardat-yakshi too, or else the baby won't be and she'll miscarry.

I don't think that's how it works.

I know it sounds weird but around the start of the third trimester, fetal asari subconciously try to make telepathic contact with anything in reah.  If she became pregnant with a non-ardat-yakshi baby, it would merge its mind with hers and get its brain fried.


Ardat Yoshi are sterile, do you even talk to Samara?

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bobobo878 wrote...

 Yes, my character has not yet shared his gift with Morinth out of respect for Ashley's feelings, but after he dumps her in ME3, Shepard's relationship with Morinth will become far more intimate.


and then shepard died of a sex aneurysm.

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Except TIM himself admits that he manipulated collectors into attacking Horizon specificaly, he was also the one to set a trap on disabled collector vessel and he is the one in posession of derelict reaper... technology he had no plans sharing with the rest of the Galaxy. He also spread rumors about Shepard, has been spreading those rumors for months... before Shepard even woke up, I'd say he started as soon as it was clear that Shepard is going to make it for sure.

It's a shame that Horizon had to be sacrificed, but in the end it payed off.  The colectors are now extinct.  If tIM hadn't lured them to horizon, they would have just attacked some other colony.  Aside from that, while Cerberus's handling of the derelict reaper was inept to say the least, it got them the IFF device.

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ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
If she injects you with her ardat-yakshi venom first, it means Shepard will be the proud papa of an ardat-yakshi baby.  Shepard has to be an ardat-yakshi too, or else the baby won't be and she'll miscarry.

I don't think that's how it works.

I know it sounds weird but around the start of the third trimester, fetal asari subconciously try to make telepathic contact with anything in reah.  If she became pregnant with a non-ardat-yakshi baby, it would merge its mind with hers and get its brain fried.

Ardat Yoshi are sterile, do you even talk to Samara?

But Samara never explained the science behind it.

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bobobo878 wrote...

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
If she injects you with her ardat-yakshi venom first, it means Shepard will be the proud papa of an ardat-yakshi baby.  Shepard has to be an ardat-yakshi too, or else the baby won't be and she'll miscarry.

I don't think that's how it works.

I know it sounds weird but around the start of the third trimester, fetal asari subconciously try to make telepathic contact with anything in reah.  If she became pregnant with a non-ardat-yakshi baby, it would merge its mind with hers and get its brain fried.

Ardat Yoshi are sterile, do you even talk to Samara?

But Samara never explained the science behind it.

Probably too much of those so called "natural biotic".

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Retroviruses are viruses that reverse transcriptase. Prions are misfolded proteins.

Prions can infect a healthy brain and nervous system and modify healthy prion proteins to create infectious prions but little is known about the molecular mechanism of pathogenesis. Retroviruses insert their genetic information into the genome of host cells and prions can module this action but that means prion proteins may stimulate the production of retroviral particles by activation of endogenous retroviruses. In addition, retroviruses could transport the prion proteins from cell to cell thus spreading the infection but this hardly causality.

Thus one helps the infection rate of the other but its more of a catalyst than an cause.

Bunk science is bunk.

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I'm doing my 'run-up-to-ME3' playthrough of Mass Effect 1 & 2 to import into the next game, but I don't know whether or not I should romance Liara then Tali and watch the fireworks, or just romance Tali. Decisions, decisions...


What do you guys think?

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bobobo878 wrote...

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Except TIM himself admits that he manipulated collectors into attacking Horizon specificaly, he was also the one to set a trap on disabled collector vessel and he is the one in posession of derelict reaper... technology he had no plans sharing with the rest of the Galaxy. He also spread rumors about Shepard, has been spreading those rumors for months... before Shepard even woke up, I'd say he started as soon as it was clear that Shepard is going to make it for sure.

It's a shame that Horizon had to be sacrificed, but in the end it payed off.  The colectors are now extinct.  If tIM hadn't lured them to horizon, they would have just attacked some other colony.  Aside from that, while Cerberus's handling of the derelict reaper was inept to say the least, it got them the IFF device.


the point is - VS had every reason to mistrust and suspect Cerberus and Shepard by association.  up to an including just how much they were involved in colony abductions.  on freedom's progress, you are rushed to the colony, specificaly before alliance can get there.  chances are, they saw that very distinct Cerberus shuttle flying away as they were about to land, to investigate. On horizon they actualy tell you that they had a tip that Cerberus specificaly was involved and that the colony was going to be hit.  they were going by the information they had.  And yes, its reasonable to assume that SHepard could be manipulated by Cerberus.  especialy... since its kinda true. 

you just don't mind being manipulated by them.  me, I seethed every time I wanted to tell TIM that I'm tired of being his puppet, but instead, the game made me go.. "oh fine, if you say so".

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I have 2 Femsheps that were loyal to LIARA but the rest are cheating hussies. :D

None of my chars have ever romanced Ashley but will still tell her to FO for her attitude on Horizon.

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I have one FemShep who romanced Kaiden in ME1 (the romance ended on Horizon) and stayed single in ME2 (none of the love interest in ME2 appealed to me).

Forever alone :crying:

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KiLi19 wrote...

I have one FemShep who romanced Kaiden in ME1 (the romance ended on Horizon) and stayed single in ME2 (none of the love interest in ME2 appealed to me).

Forever alone :crying:


I feel your pain on the ME2 love interests for Femshep. Surprisingly though, the Garrus romance was funny and kind of sweet. And they don't show anything that's awkward to watch. :P

Thane, while it progressed too suddenly, was also kind of sweet. Jacob, while a great character and follower, was an epic fail romance imo.

Over all, total crap compared to what was available for Shepbro.