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Xilizhra wrote...

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You could perchance wait for the actual game?


I hate your ass-backwards logic.

"How can you know being smacked will hurt if you haven't been smacked yet?"

I don't believe the leaks mentioned how Cerberus got its army. I believe this because Seboist keeps saying that it doesn't say how.


That will be conveniently left out, as building an army requires competance and ME3 Cerberus will have none of that. :?

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It does, most people will be disgusted by how "evil" it is.

Good, so there's an explanation. In all likelihood, the evilness is what allows it to be done quickly and thus be plausible, and it's not as though TIM possesses morals or showed any signs of such, so I fail to see the problem.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Miranda and Jacob don't have the right mindset to run Cerberus. We need somebody who is practical and ruthless. Miranda is all talk and no bite. Jacob... he is way too soft.


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Miranda often looked more in-charge than Shep in ME2.

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Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Miranda and Jacob don't have the right mindset to run Cerberus. We need somebody who is practical and ruthless. Miranda is all talk and no bite. Jacob... he is way too soft.


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Miranda often looked more in-charge than Shep in ME2.


Please. She was all boobs no action. 

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Xilizhra wrote...

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It does, most people will be disgusted by how "evil" it is.

Good, so there's an explanation. In all likelihood, the evilness is what allows it to be done quickly and thus be plausible, and it's not as though TIM possesses morals or showed any signs of such, so I fail to see the problem.


You were still explaining why we should wait for the game before judging the story...

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AlexXIV wrote...

Lol I love this pic. Yeah and I thought so from the moment I heard there would be no 'Reapers Win' scenario. Like for example in Arrival. Shame.


I thought that waiting around gave you the "Reapers win" ending


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Volus Warlord wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Miranda and Jacob don't have the right mindset to run Cerberus. We need somebody who is practical and ruthless. Miranda is all talk and no bite. Jacob... he is way too soft.


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Miranda often looked more in-charge than Shep in ME2.


Please. She was all boobs no action. 


Ok I have never liked Miranda but I figure you guys would have loved the cerberus cheerleader.  How was she not cerberusish enough for you guys?

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Volus Warlord wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Miranda and Jacob don't have the right mindset to run Cerberus. We need somebody who is practical and ruthless. Miranda is all talk and no bite. Jacob... he is way too soft.


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Miranda often looked more in-charge than Shep in ME2.


Please. She was all boobs no action. 


It took a while for me to click who she was, but when I did I couldn't get past "Chuck's blonde!"

Can't ever imagine her running Cerberus...

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Miranda and Jacob don't have the right mindset to run Cerberus. We need somebody who is practical and ruthless. Miranda is all talk and no bite. Jacob... he is way too soft.


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Miranda often looked more in-charge than Shep in ME2.


Please. She was all boobs no action. 


Ok I have never liked Miranda but I figure you guys would have loved the cerberus cheerleader.  How was she not cerberusish enough for you guys?


Inconsistent characterization and her coming off as an emotionally disturbed woman with daddy and self-esteem issues as opposed to this ruthless "Cerberus loyalist" who in essence should have been a female TIM of sorts due to being in the organization as long as she has been and advancing in rank to the point of having the "honor" of meeting TIM himself in person. Her being against keeping the CB doesn't win her any points in the brotherhood's eyes either.

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Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Miranda often looked more in-charge than Shep in ME2.

If by "often" you mean "for the first 8 minutes".

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I like it. It reminds me of me. :D

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Miranda and Jacob don't have the right mindset to run Cerberus. We need somebody who is practical and ruthless. Miranda is all talk and no bite. Jacob... he is way too soft.


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Miranda often looked more in-charge than Shep in ME2.


Please. She was all boobs no action. 


Ok I have never liked Miranda but I figure you guys would have loved the cerberus cheerleader.  How was she not cerberusish enough for you guys?


Ability before appearance. 

Good Cerberus members are good Cerberus members for what they can do, not what they look like. 

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

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Miranda often looked more in-charge than Shep in ME2.

If by "often" you mean "for the first 8 minutes".


And then you had debriefs, where applicable. Then, pre-Suicide Mission (even en-route). Then, at two different junctures during the Suicide Mission.

JMO, but I think her presense often overpowered Cmdr. Shepard's.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

You could perchance wait for the actual game?


I hate your ass-backwards logic.

"How can you know being smacked will hurt if you haven't been smacked yet?"

I don't believe the leaks mentioned how Cerberus got its army.

They did... but a lack of information regarding Cerberus never stopped you from making factually wrong claims before.

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And then you had debriefs, where applicable. Then, pre-Suicide Mission (even en-route). Then, at two different junctures during the Suicide Mission.

JMO, but I think her presense often overpowered Cmdr. Shepard's.

Nah. To me it really only shows that she lacks social skills. And that social skills are not genetic.

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iOnlySignIn wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

And then you had debriefs, where applicable. Then, pre-Suicide Mission (even en-route). Then, at two different junctures during the Suicide Mission.

JMO, but I think her presense often overpowered Cmdr. Shepard's.

Nah. To me it really only shows that she lacks social skills. And that social skills are not genetic.


Maybe, but IMO social skills aren't that important for a leader. Many very successful NFL QBs were jerks - your teammates will play their asses off for you if prove that you're a winner.

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 The Illusive man is part robot, so maybe the reapers can controll him

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Lars10178 wrote...

 The Illusive man is part robot, so maybe the reapers can controll him


So is Sheperd. <_<

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

You could perchance wait for the actual game?


I hate your ass-backwards logic.

"How can you know being smacked will hurt if you haven't been smacked yet?"

I don't believe the leaks mentioned how Cerberus got its army.

They did... but a lack of information regarding Cerberus never stopped you from making factually wrong claims before.

Then I don't see why Seboist is acting like it's some kind of big mystery.

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Xilizhra wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

You could perchance wait for the actual game?


I hate your ass-backwards logic.

"How can you know being smacked will hurt if you haven't been smacked yet?"

I don't believe the leaks mentioned how Cerberus got its army.

They did... but a lack of information regarding Cerberus never stopped you from making factually wrong claims before.

Then I don't see why Seboist is acting like it's some kind of big mystery.

He isn't: he exagerates, yes, but you're being purposely obtuse.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

You could perchance wait for the actual game?


I hate your ass-backwards logic.

"How can you know being smacked will hurt if you haven't been smacked yet?"

I don't believe the leaks mentioned how Cerberus got its army.

They did... but a lack of information regarding Cerberus never stopped you from making factually wrong claims before.

Then I don't see why Seboist is acting like it's some kind of big mystery.

He isn't: he exagerates, yes, but you're being purposely obtuse.

Nothing is wrong with people being obtuse, as long as they agree with me. :whistle:

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He isn't: he exagerates, yes, but you're being purposely obtuse.

And he's being purposely annoying.

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Xilizhra wrote...

He isn't: he exagerates, yes, but you're being purposely obtuse.

And he's being purposely annoying.

A matter of opinion, but not one that excuses you whichever way you feel. You know as well as anyone else that the leak was more than sufficiently developed in outline and detail in order to critize particular points of the ME3 story from the clear writer's intent present.

Modifié par Dean_the_Young, 09 février 2012 - 02:38 .