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[Avalanche404]

The abuse of DLCs has become a frustrating matter.
Before being tagged as a "hater", let me say that I am a long-term fan of Bioware and I've played almost any of their games, from Baldur's Gate to Dragon Age 2, passing through Neverwinter Nights, Knights of the Old Republic, Jade Empire, Mass effect, and any episode of those series.

But I have grown tired of Bioware (and probably EA) policy about the quantity and quality of downloadable contents.
First of all, there is an unequal balance between the price of DLCs and the quantity and quality of their content, as most of them are skin or weapon packages and 10-minutes-long quests. Talking about additional quests: I think is unfair to expand the story through many single missions, "forcing" fans to spend even more money than the original game, in order to know how the plot continue through a bunch of short missions. This brings to the second point: is quite offensive to make and announce DLCs before the release of a game, because is like to say "hey, we are selling you an incomplete product, if you want it all you must spend more".
Last but not least: please, stop producing gameplay-ruining DLCs, like over-powered weapons and armors. Sure, there is no reason to buy them if I don't want to, but what if I am a collector and I like to buy limited edition? Am I forced to have a lot of addictional contents which gave me enough power to finish the game without changing equipment? Is like cheating! And again, someone could say "no one force you to use them", but hell, I have spent a lot for a collector's edition and those money cover also that, why I shouldn't use what I've paid for?

This is an invitation to all Bioware fans to tell your opinion, and let's gather Bioware attention, hoping in a future change of plans. I know that DLCs = easy money, but at least stop selling cheap cheats and splitting the plot in pieces.



Without regret but with hope of will have been understood,
a Bioware fan that have just preordered Mass Effect 3 limited edition (as I have made with Mass Effect 2, Dragon Age: Origins, and Dragon Age 2*).






PS: forgive me for my lack of english.
*: sorry but I must say it: worst-limited-edition-ever, expecially compared to DA:O.

[Chuvvy]

I agree 100%.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Tl;dr

They'll stop with the DLCs once it becomes unfashionable for game developers to throttle their product into fragments for extra cash.

I, for one, look forward to the future in which games are purchased in individual shards. Sh*t will be like an Inuyasha episode.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 09 février 2012 - 12:06 .

[Cheesy Blue]

TLDR

PS: I like DLC.

[Avalanche404]

PPS: I think the following image is fully pertaining the matter.

[JeffZero]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Tl;dr

They'll stop with the DLCs once it becomes unfashionable for game developers to throttle their games into fragments for extra cash.

I, for one, look forward to the future in which games are purchased in individual shards. Sh*t will be like an Inuyasha episode.

Don't get me started. She totally broke that damn jewel into roughly twenty pieces. Show should have been over 150 episodes sooner.

Ahem. Anyway.

[Atakuma]

They'll stop making them when people stop buying them.

[Dead Shizno]

look down below

Modifié par Dead Shizno, 09 février 2012 - 12:10 .

[Dead Shizno]

Avalanche404 wrote...

PPS: I think the following image is fully pertaining the matter.

well that was my point in a nice lil pic lol

[shepskisaac]

Atakuma wrote...

They'll stop making them when people stop buying them.

Pretty much. When publishers see that people buy horse armors, they come to the only logical conclusion: "people will buy anything".

I'm not against major DLCs at all. These are nothing more than modern equivalents of expansion packs/gold editions from back in the day and can really enhance and prolong a great experience. However, all this "junk" DLC hoopla is just ridiculous. But unfortunately, it exist because gamers keep buying it.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 09 février 2012 - 12:12 .

[Druss99]

Agreed OP but they won't stop until people stop buying the DLC and aslong as you need the DLC to see the complete story people won't stop buying it.

[MakeMineMako]

I have no problem with DLC if it adds something to the game, like Bring Down The Sky or Lair of the Shadow Broker did for ME1 and ME2 (to name a couple of examples). More weapons and armor are fine too.

[Wulfram]

DLC produced after the game is done is fine. Good even, if it was priced better.

Day 1 DLC is problematic

edit: and I have no problem with "junk" DLC.  It's usually pretty clear that this is tat, if people want to spend their money on it then that's their prerogative

Modifié par Wulfram, 09 février 2012 - 12:15 .

[essarr71]

You lost me at seeing the logic of not buying game breaking items, but then saying you're a collector.

If you don't approve of a dlc, don't buy it. You're only encouraging the behavior.

quick edit: or wait for complete editions later on - much cheaper.  Nothing wrong with being thrifty, and it sends the same message.

Modifié par essarr71, 09 février 2012 - 12:16 .

[Walker White]

Random Jerkface wrote...

They'll stop with the DLCs once it becomes unfashionable for game developers to throttle their product into fragments for extra cash.

Seeing as distributed gameplay purchases has been a successful business model for Magic TG for almost two decades, I doubt this will be anytime soon.

[don-mika]

+1

i don`t interesting in "best ending"- i want full expirience

[mkk316]

The game should be considered incomplete if the dlc is essential to actually beating the game. If that's not the case then game is complete, and that dlc costs money to make, artists, level designers, programmers still have bills to pay. That said, I do think there needs to be some level headedness when it comes to stuff like weapons and armors, that stuff should be free, but the big dlcs like lotsb or overlord should be reasonably priced.

Also, 10 min long sidequests? lol

[Sailears]

It depends what the DLC is.

It seems a lot of the DLC tied to other products, cross promotions and so on, is basically fluff. Multiplayer items that might never be used, appearances and so on.

So I don't fully agree with that image posted. A lot of the stuff is in addition to the game, and to sell other merchandise or get people to play other things, not necessarily cut from the core game.

In general anything worthwhile should be available by itself.

[Elvis_Mazur]

There will be a time where they will put the ending of a game into a dlc.

"Want to discover how everything ends? Pay and download our content"

When such happens, people will act as if it was normal. And, that's the sad fact.

I don't support support DLCs. I don't buy them. And when I want to "play" them, I simply youtube them.

Modifié par PetrySilva, 09 février 2012 - 12:21 .

[DiebytheSword]

I dislike day 1 dlc as a means to stop purchases of used games, and if it was produced in the time frame of the original, and is to be out on the same day, it should have shipped on the disc.

When it is on the disc, and unlocked by a "DLC" purchase, its a crime against gaming.

So far, Bioware hasn't been "bad" with it, but they could certainly do better. My bigger beef with them is that they insist on spreading pre order bonuses all around and then they don't always release them later for everyone else to purchase.

Blackstorm anyone?

[didymos1120]

PetrySilva wrote...

There will be a time where they will put the ending of a game into a dlc.

"Want to discover how everything ends? Pay and download our content"

That's already happened.  They're called "episodic games".  FFIV: The After Years would be one example.

[essarr71]

Curunen wrote...

It depends what the DLC is.

It seems a lot of the DLC tied to other products, cross promotions and so on, is basically fluff. Multiplayer items that might never be used, appearances and so on.

So I don't fully agree with that image posted. A lot of the stuff is in addition to the game, and to sell other merchandise or get people to play other things, not necessarily cut from the core game.

In general anything worthwhile should be available by itself.

This.

The char/mission dlc available on day 1 always gets me.  It's there to give people the option of not getting the collectors edition, while still giving something to those who were interested in it.  Wonder if people would still fume over it if the extra squadie you get with the CE wouldn't be available for download until a month or more after release.

[GhostV9]

Avalanche404 wrote...

PPS: I think the following image is fully pertaining the matter.

This.

[DarkPsylocke26]

. Don't comlpaint about something you don't have to buy in the first place.

[OmegaBlue0231]

They're optional. Don't like it don't by them, the especially hold true with weapon packs and alternate outfits (or horse armor) because they serve no real point other than to change things up a bit.

Some DLC was stuff that was cut early on and would never have been seen without DLC. They didn't cut it to make money, they cut it because they didn't like it at the time or they didn't have the money to finish it. Example: the Ulysses' storyline from the New Vegas, they couldn't finish it so they decided to add it to the DLC.

Day one DLC doesn't bother me because most of the time it's stuff from the collector's edition. And it's still cheaper to buy it standalone than with the CE. If it was stuff that was not included with the CE or for free with new copies then yes it's wrong.