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[izmirtheastarach]

IsaacShep wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I get the sentiment, but once you have all the ME2 DLC, you don't really need the installers, and it's not difficult to back the directory up somewhere.

Yeah but each time you install the game you need to run all 12 of them lol. And I just have 12 since I only got the free stuff and 4 major DLCs. People who bought all the weapons, skins, and also have pre-order bonuses and/or Collector Edition have like 20+ separate installers. It's just ridiculous. I wish BW released a simple one-click installator for all this stuff.

As I said, if you back up your DLC directory, all you'd have to do upon reinstalling is move it into your game folder. I only downloaded the installers once, and deleted them immediately after installing. There is no need to run the installers every time. And I like being able to move DLC in and out of the folder, so I can control when it appears in my playthroughs. Also very easy. I'll admit it would be nice if there was a system that allowed me to turn them on and off, but that's a small things really.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 09 février 2012 - 03:22 .

[Olwydd]

I have to admit, I'm not a huge fan of day-one DLC. The other stuff I can deal with, since most of the content was created post-release - actually, I think a lot of it is swell, like Overlord or LotSB. The dislike for day-one DLC may be based on a misunderstanding, but it's widely shared. It would almost be better to withhold announcements and release until about a month after release, if only for the psychological impact it would have on users, who wouldn't feel as though they were being suckered and gauged. Plus it would sustain interest in the product for a longer period of time.

The one thing that gets me, though, is that we’ve heard rumours of DLC characters for months. When info about the CE was released, there was mention of a DLC squadmate. Surely then the content of that DLC was being worked on well in advance. Barring any major setback, the content could have been included in the packaged game. That the content was planned as DLC well in advance makes this feel like a money grab. I don’t like that non-trivial content (e.g. a whole character) is set aside and priced separately (either as DLC or as a CE bonus). That’s fine for fluff like in-game hoodies and outfits, but for actual content, it rubs me the wrong way.

Modifié par Olwydd, 09 février 2012 - 03:24 .

[Alexander Kogan]

I agree!

BioWare and EA have gotten completely out of control with DLC, in the bad way.   Last I checked, DLC was supposed to expand a game sometime after its release to give players a reason to go back and play, not drown it and over-saturate it all within day one.

First it was with action figures, then the art books and now those iOS phones are getting stuff that supposedly unlocks "exclusive" content.   I have a mytouch phone so I'm not sure that it will comply with those games and what about everyone else who might want a go but can't.   The crossovers with Dragon Age and Reckoning were fun, but everything else makes me feel like I'm getting robbed out of a complete experience.

I'm beginning to think that EA is purposefully making BioWare either remove or lock out content that's already in the game to force us to pay for more to get the full experience.  Oh how I miss the days when we could actually get a full and complete game instead of publishers making developers flush out incomplete games.
<_<

Modifié par Alexander Kogan, 09 février 2012 - 03:25 .

[jeweledleah]

IsaacShep wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

I get the sentiment, but once you have all the ME2 DLC, you don't really need the installers, and it's not difficult to back the directory up somewhere.

Yeah but each time you install the game you need to run all 12 of them lol. And I just have 12 since I only got the free stuff and 4 major DLCs. People who bought all the weapons, skins, and also have pre-order bonuses and/or Collector Edition have like 20+ separate installers. It's just ridiculous. I wish BW released a simple one-click installator for all this stuff.

also - this.  optional of course, since I have found that sometimes I want to install only specific DLC's not all of them.

in fact.. something like DAO's mod installer where you can select what you want to install individualy - would be just peachy.

[Stanley Woo]

atheelogos wrote...

Stanley whats the rationale for not putting out DLC that people, like myself, wouldn't mind buying?

I dunno (since I'm not in Marketing or on the Mass Effect 3 team), but I would guess it's because the system isn't really based on current player requests but past history. i would have no idea what you "wouldn't mind buying," but if I see that past players of the series have purchased X, Y, and Z, i would try selling you those things. And if I see that A, B, and C sold extremely well for similar games to mine, I would consider selling those kinds of things as well.

It's all a risk, and those risks don't always pay off, but that's why it's called risk, isn't it?

[Abispa]

Stanley Woo wrote...

FFinfinity1 wrote...

Maybe someday down the road Bioware/EA will release some UBER MASSEFFECT EDITION with all 3 games with every DLC released on a few discs. I would buy the hell out of that. I mean honestly if i physically don't have something in my hands or possession then it doesn't feel bought to me.

Aw man, wouldn't that be cool?

That set will be out on a single terabyte flash drive for the next generation consoles, I"m sure. And when it comes out the BSN will be full of fans complaining about how Bioware has sold out and become greedy, and not providing us with cool games like Mass Effect and it's DLCs anymore.

Modifié par Abispa, 09 février 2012 - 03:25 .

[Stanley Woo]

Alexander Kogan wrote...

I'm beginning to think that EA is purposefully making BioWare either remove or lock out content that's already in the game to force us to pay for more to get the full experience. Oh how I miss the days when we could actually get a full and complete game instead of publishers making developers flush out incomplete games.
<_<

Patently incorrect, on both counts, and I addressed this sentiment earlier in the thread.

[Cainne Chapel]

Honestly, I dont have much of a problem with all the DLC bonuses, AS LONG as they make a way for my pokemon gotta have it all lifestyle by being able to buy it later...

I have no problem with that....


On the other hand... I do kinda wish AdmiralCheez would call ME babycakes too....

Then i'd be complete and sooo happy.

[Killitngrillit]

This is EA we're talking about here, it's not gonna stop, they need to squeeze every possible penny from their series.

[RAF1940]

I agree with the OP 100%.

[Yuoaman]

aLucidMind wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

my problem with DLC's is that they are essentially mini expansions... except bioware DLC"s never go on sale, like other company's DLC's do, especially if they are sold on steam. main game eventually goes on sale. expansions that are branded as such - go on sale. DLC's? stay the same price forever, at least if you are a PC gamer. I actually payed more for a single story dlc, then I did for a copy of Mass Effect 1 OR 2. that's just not right.

I bought all ME1 and ME2 DLCs and each one were on sale for half-off when I bought them. The last year had about four ME2 sales like that on XBL.

The PC DLC never goes on sale, they always remain crazy expensive for what they are.

And they also require you to pay in play money, so I don't even.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Stanley Woo wrote...

Alexander Kogan wrote...

I'm beginning to think that EA is purposefully making BioWare either remove or lock out content that's already in the game to force us to pay for more to get the full experience. Oh how I miss the days when we could actually get a full and complete game instead of publishers making developers flush out incomplete games.
<_<

Patently incorrect, on both counts, and I addressed this sentiment earlier in the thread.

Would you even admit it if it were true? What else would you say? And I find it somewhat odd that you didn't respond to my earlier post. Still awaiting an answer on that if you can. 


-Polite

[jeweledleah]

aLucidMind wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

my problem with DLC's is that they are essentially mini expansions... except bioware DLC"s never go on sale, like other company's DLC's do, especially if they are sold on steam. main game eventually goes on sale. expansions that are branded as such - go on sale. DLC's? stay the same price forever, at least if you are a PC gamer. I actually payed more for a single story dlc, then I did for a copy of Mass Effect 1 OR 2. that's just not right.

I bought all ME1 and ME2 DLCs and each one were on sale for half-off when I bought them. The last year had about four ME2 sales like that on XBL.

didn't read my post, did you.

I'll repeat.

if you are a PC gamer.  they never go on sale.  ever.  at least not bioware DLC's.  I bought my New Vegas DLC's on sale.  Borderlands - same thing.  Magicka.  Human revolution.  Mass Effect and DA?  payed full price for all with exception of DAO game of the year edition.

PC GAMERS get NO sales from BIOWARE on DLC's.  yes, it bothers me.
edited also - what Yoaman said.  why am i forced into buying set ammount of points?  why can I just pay for the DLC's I want outright without being forced into extra points?  and why is there an extra fee every single time i buy those points?

this happens ONLY when I buy from bioware, btw. 

Modifié par jeweledleah, 09 février 2012 - 03:28 .

[Yuoaman]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Alexander Kogan wrote...

I'm beginning to think that EA is purposefully making BioWare either remove or lock out content that's already in the game to force us to pay for more to get the full experience. Oh how I miss the days when we could actually get a full and complete game instead of publishers making developers flush out incomplete games.
<_<

Patently incorrect, on both counts, and I addressed this sentiment earlier in the thread.

Would you even admit it if it were true? What else would you say? And I find it somewhat odd that you didn't respond to my earlier post. Still awaiting an answer on that if you can. 


-Polite

There are quite a lot of posts in this thread, he can't respond to everything.

[Homey C-Dawg]

I think Cheez has a pretty good point with that last one. Mass Effect has plenty of selling points to appeal to new audience without needing this much fluff. Marketing could be putting their money to much better use imo.

[shepskisaac]

aLucidMind wrote...

I bought all ME1 and ME2 DLCs and each one were on sale for half-off when I bought them. The last year had about four ME2 sales like that on XBL.

You're talking Xbox. XBL and PSN sales are controlled by Microsoft and Sony who of course have tons of great sales each year. On PC however, BioWare Points went on sale exactly once in US and once in Europe.

[TheJiveDJ]

Alexander Kogan wrote...

I agree!

BioWare and EA have gotten completely out of control with DLC, in the bad way.   Last I checked, DLC was supposed to expand a game sometime after its release to give players a reason to go back and play, not drown it and over-saturate it all within day one.
<_<

Keyword.  You and I are in agreement here.  Like my previous post, oversatuation is dangerous and this is where we're heading.

[Yuoaman]

IsaacShep wrote...

aLucidMind wrote...

I bought all ME1 and ME2 DLCs and each one were on sale for half-off when I bought them. The last year had about four ME2 sales like that on XBL.

You're talking Xbox. XBL and PSN sales are controlled by Microsoft and Sony who of course have tons of great sales each year. On PC however, BioWare Points went on sale exactly once in US and once in Europe.

Yeah - I bought the DA:O Ultimate Edition on sale, but it was Steam doing the sale, EA never puts their stuff on sale. Especially not their DLC.

[Abispa]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Would you even admit it if it were true? What else would you say? And I find it somewhat odd that you didn't respond to my earlier post. Still awaiting an answer on that if you can. 

-Polite

Well, gee, buddy, since you've basically admitted that you refuse to believe anything Woo says that you disagree with, what would be the point of responding to anything you say?

[Jaron Oberyn]

@Yuoaman - correct, he picks and chooses those which he can easily respond to. I doubt he'll have an easy time answering my question.

-Polite

[Yuoaman]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

@Yuoaman - correct, he picks and chooses those which he can easily respond to. I doubt he'll have an easy time answering my question.

-Polite

If you responded in a more positive manner maybe he would be more likely to answer.

[atheelogos]

Stanley Woo wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

Stanley whats the rationale for not putting out DLC that people, like myself, wouldn't mind buying?

I dunno (since I'm not in Marketing or on the Mass Effect 3 team), but I would guess it's because the system isn't really based on current player requests but past history. i would have no idea what you "wouldn't mind buying," but if I see that past players of the series have purchased X, Y, and Z, i would try selling you those things. And if I see that A, B, and C sold extremely well for similar games to mine, I would consider selling those kinds of things as well.

It's all a risk, and those risks don't always pay off, but that's why it's called risk, isn't it?

I would love to buy the: N7 Arsenal Pack, Robotic Dog Squadmate, Alternate Outfit Pack, Bonus Mission and Character. That last one especially

I couldn't get the N7 edition till now, but it's sold out everywhere, so I'll have to get the regular edition.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Abispa wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Would you even admit it if it were true? What else would you say? And I find it somewhat odd that you didn't respond to my earlier post. Still awaiting an answer on that if you can. 

-Polite

Well, gee, buddy, since you've basically admitted that you refuse to believe anything Woo says that you disagree with, what would be the point of responding to anything you say?

I refuse to believe it because I know it is false. Id still like to see him defend his position though.


-Polite

[Jaron Oberyn]

Yuoaman wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

@Yuoaman - correct, he picks and chooses those which he can easily respond to. I doubt he'll have an easy time answering my question.

-Polite

If you responded in a more positive manner maybe he would be more likely to answer.

What was negative about my response? Please point it out if you can. Do contrasting views equate to negativity these days?


-Polite