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[AlanC9]

Sidney wrote...

THEE_DEATHMASTER wrote...

Pretty stupid that you can pay $80 and still don't get the COMPLETE game.

The game is complete. If they sold you a game w/o an ending then it is incomplete. All DLC characters and quests do is extend the game in the same way dessert extends a meal. Your dinner is complete without desert. Dessert is an add on.

As someone who never bought any DLC, I can vouch for the truth of this. I found ME2 to be a fully complete experience without any DLC.

[Sashimi_taco]

I don't have a problem with DLCs. If you don't want the extra guns and skins don't buy them. I like the added content though. Each big DLC was at least 2 hours of content and was done really well. I enjoyed them a lot. I'm willing to pay extra for more of the game I love. I was not willing to do that for dragon age 2 because I did not enjoy it at all. I have a choice in if I buy DLC and so do you.

[Il Divo]

AlanC9 wrote...

Sidney wrote...

THEE_DEATHMASTER wrote...

Pretty stupid that you can pay $80 and still don't get the COMPLETE game.

The game is complete. If they sold you a game w/o an ending then it is incomplete. All DLC characters and quests do is extend the game in the same way dessert extends a meal. Your dinner is complete without desert. Dessert is an add on.

As someone who never bought any DLC, I can vouch for the truth of this. I found ME2 to be a fully complete experience without any DLC.

Hell, as someone who's bought all the dlc except the weapon/armor packs, I can say ME2 felt like a complete experience on its own.

The only dlc I can really think that goes against this are potentially Zaeed (which is free for all new copies), and Kasumi. And that's mainly because Bioware's premise for ME2 was "The Dirty Dozen".  Even then, I only learned about that after having played through the main campaign twice, at which point I was still on my gaming high.

Modifié par Il Divo, 11 février 2012 - 04:03 .

[THEE_DEATHMASTER]

It's one thing for your own experience, I'm sure you can feel the "ME experience" without getting the weapon addons, but with missions and such (Kasumi), it's worth saying it's actual content you're missing. I'm sure you can remove a number of 'non-relevant' missions from ME and have it retain the feel, but I think that's the direction things are heading in. Arrival for example, you can experience it or listen to a couple lines of dialogue about it in ME3.

Modifié par THEE_DEATHMASTER, 11 février 2012 - 06:04 .

[Gatt9]

(Nevermind,  there's no point to trying to discuss this anymore.  When people start trying to use quantum physics as a justification,  it's pointless to try and discuss it)

Modifié par Gatt9, 11 février 2012 - 07:14 .

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Sashimi_taco wrote...

I don't have a problem with DLCs. If you don't want the extra guns and skins don't buy them. I like the added content though. Each big DLC was at least 2 hours of content and was done really well. I enjoyed them a lot. I'm willing to pay extra for more of the game I love. I was not willing to do that for dragon age 2 because I did not enjoy it at all. I have a choice in if I buy DLC and so do you.

Thats not the point. x|

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Gatt9 wrote...

(Nevermind,  there's no point to trying to discuss this anymore.  When people start trying to use quantum physics as a justification,  it's pointless to try and discuss it)

lol so true 

[Brownfinger]

TO THE ATTENTION OF BIOWARE TEAM, AND OTHER POORLY-CRAFTED ENGRISH ULTIMATUMS:

Don't take the sniveling and wailing of these tools into consideration. Keep pumping out bonus content. Not all of your fans are poor.
I've loved every extra bit of data that I've purchased, it's a fantastic perk.

/dangles his money

TAKE IT.

Modifié par Brownfinger, 11 février 2012 - 07:45 .

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Brownfinger wrote...

TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BIOWARE TEAM AND OTHER POORLY-CRAFTED ENGRISH ULTIMATUMS:

Don't listen to these tools. Keep pumping out bonus content. Not all of your fans are poor.
I've loved every extra bit of data that I've purchased, it's a fantastic perk.

/dangles his money

TAKE IT.

So you dont mind paying $500+ for all the DLC available?

Well some of us do. 

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 11 février 2012 - 07:48 .

[Brownfinger]

Exaggerate, much?
Collector's Edition, $79.99.

I bought the first series of Mass Effect toys last year. I'm buying Series 2, because sci-fi toys are rad. I'll be giving away the codes that come with them. They're guns and upgrades for multiplayer, dude. Upgrades you buy with the multiplayer currency, anyway. You. Don't. Need. Them. If you're dumb enough to feel that you do, even though they have no impact at all on the game's single player campaign, then that's a you  problem.

The whining is kinda pathetic, at this point. Next argument?

Modifié par Brownfinger, 11 février 2012 - 07:55 .

[Brownfinger]

My series 2 figure pre-order was 90 bucks.

The game is 60. So you're paying $200 for the extra DLC, 180 of it going to things you can purchase in multiplayer, anyway. Why don't more people see how ****ing illogical that is? XD

Even more high-larious is that the people crying like little girls with skinned knees right now are going to be so extremely upset when they find out that they spent $180 on plastic they don't want and upgrades they can earn by spending a few days in the game's multiplayer component. They can't be reasoned with, don't even try to explain it to them. They thrive on being forever mad.

Modifié par Brownfinger, 11 février 2012 - 08:01 .

[Spectre 007]

Ice Cold J wrote...

I don't like restraint. Not really my "thing."
Oh, you mean restraint as in "discipline."
Oh... excuse me.

Lol. Mind in the gutter much?<_<

[Maria Caliban]

I don't mind DLC. I do feel BioWare/EA should prioritize making DLC easily available to as many people as possible.

[Ice Cold J]

Spectre 007 wrote...

Ice Cold J wrote...

I don't like restraint. Not really my "thing."
Oh, you mean restraint as in "discipline."
Oh... excuse me.

Lol. Mind in the gutter much?<_<

Maybe, but I find it funny how I post lengthy, thought-provoking ideas and get no feedback, but if I make a "suggestive" joke, most people notice.

[pmac_tk421]

Oh no you don't have 1 assault rifle. It won't kill you.

[jasonxxsatanna]

for me it gives me extra replay value after you have played the game a few times ,then a new DLC comes out it promotes replay for me . . . even if its weapons I like to test them out on enemies to see how they effect them . . . but in ME2 i would have like for the DLC weapons to be part of a mission and not just put there by TIM and told via an email that they are in my weapons locker

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Brownfinger wrote...

Exaggerate, much?
Collector's Edition, $79.99.

I bought the first series of Mass Effect toys last year. I'm buying Series 2, because sci-fi toys are rad. I'll be giving away the codes that come with them. They're guns and upgrades for multiplayer, dude. Upgrades you buy with the multiplayer currency, anyway. You. Don't. Need. Them. If you're dumb enough to feel that you do, even though they have no impact at all on the game's single player campaign, then that's a you  problem.

The whining is kinda pathetic, at this point. Next argument?

Brownfinger wrote...

My series 2 figure pre-order was 90 bucks. 

The game is 60. So you're paying $200 for the extra DLC, 180 of it going to things you can purchase in multiplayer, anyway. Why don't more people see how ****ing illogical that is? XD 

Even more high-larious is that the people crying like little girls with skinned knees right now are going to be so extremely upset when they find out that they spent $180 on plastic they don't want and upgrades they can earn by spending a few days in the game's multiplayer component. They can't be reasoned with, don't even try to explain it to them. They thrive on being forever mad.

Exaggerate?

 

 

PDesign
wrote...

 

Collectors Edition from Gamestop - 80$

Standard Edition from Origin - 60$

ME Action Figures Series 1 (4-Pack) - 75$

ME Action Figures Series 2 (4-Pack) - 75$

The Art of the Mass Effect Universe - 40$

PlayStation 3 Slim Limited Mass Effect 3 Vault - 90$

Xbox 360 Slim Limited Mass Effect 3 Vault - 90$

iOS Game - 8$

 

Total = 518$

 

 

Nope. That probably wasnt even covering all of them. 

 

Nice to know you're buying all the figures(I dont really
care) and yes I know the dlc that come with them are unknown multi items, but that does not say the same for all the other dlc-tacked products. It is
quite possible they threw some SP content in there. And of course multi DLC
wont affect Single Player, that is not the point. I don’t care what dlc you
deem important for everyone and whats not, some ppl just want to get all the
content for once, even if it’s a few weapons, a few upgrades, even if its for
multi. Doesn’t make me or anyone else here “dumb” for not knowing which dlc is for
SP and which is for Multi, figures being the exception. We could also in fact be
missing out on something very good. For ME2 if you weren’t able to receive the
pre-order dlc from gamestop, the Terminus armour + Blackstorm gun, that’s some
great fun you were never able to experience.

I wouldn’t expect someone like you to understand but some of
us, who really love this game, take this seriously, and are eager to take opportunities
in order to play the game to its fullest potential. This is after all the last game of the
trilogy, so personally I KNOW I’ll be playing long after the game comes out. Plus
I’ll be the playing multiplayer solo most
of the time. That said, I’d much rather have all the equipment available.  

_

Although this may not be much of a problem at all, but of
course no one knows since the information about is so utterly vague.  Now I’m not saying EA/Bioware should go out
and give us a detailed list of every single thing they throw out but it doesn’t
help anyone when all they say is “some randomized dlc” over the span of all
these products. The most detailed description I’ve seen so far was the art
book; “will include the collector's rifle, among other cool content to beat out
your opponents.”

 People aren’t being
told what dlc they’re getting in turn for actually buying it. For this game in
particular some extra effort would be appropriate, given the amount of
dlc-tacked products alone. Like; Must ppl buy every single thing they tack DLC
to in order to get all of the (current)pre-DLC available? Simple question,
simple answer, right now for all we know the dlc included with the $90 Xbox
collectors case could be the same as the $8 App.

They attach these dlcs as incentives for the product for it
to sell, and needless to say it works, but it is impossible to judge what to
spend your money on when they make it so unorganized and so un-user -friendly.
They expect everyone to just buy buy buy, without even thinking about it. That
is not a problem with me, thats a problem with someone not caring enough to see
the customers side of things and/or not providing sufficient info. I am simply frustrated
by this.

 __

As for the availability, where exactly are you getting that most
of the dlc can be obtained through buying it with “in game currency”? First
off, I have not heard anything about an “in-game currency” (in multi) to
purchase items or any announcement stating so. If somehow the multi portion was
available, was it in the demo?  I actually
heard it was going to be an unlocking system. But you know what either way,
that still doesnt tell you everything. You're assuming with such passion
that every single piece of pre-dlc will be available oh so easily in-game. But
you don’t KNOW that. So dont be so naive, no one has announced what dlc will be
in-game, what is available later, or if any of it will be available later. I’m
sure some will but there lies another issue, which systems? Idk what you play on,
but with my past experience dealing with ME2 DLC on the Xbox was a nightmare.
The only way to get absolutely all of them was by either pre-ordering from
certain retailers, or through EA Dr Pepper caps(which were only available in
the US anway for some reason). PS3 folks on the other hand could simply get them all
through PSN later. Looking at that I think its very doubtful for all later dlc
packs to come to all platforms, let alone be included in the “full” game, although
I hope I am wrong. Also the whole Dr Pepper EA event has ended altogether, so
no luck there.

You say ppl are illogical for spending  money on these things, but how illogical is it
to put on rose coloured glasses and claim you know everything can be obtained
later? Like I said, some ppl just want ALL the content and unlike you would rather
not leave it to chance. Yeah it might seem weird to you they choose to spend
tons of money on that stuff but if doing that equals assurance for all the
in-game content, then they will. They really shouldn’t have to, but with what
very little info that’s given they don’t have a lot of options do they?  It is not illogical if getting all the dlc
available was what they set out to do in the first place.

___

 Cant be reasoned with? Thrive on being forever mad? Umm no
sir, ppl who have a different viewpoint than you can in fact be reasoned with,
and certainly do not thrive on being “forever mad”. Then again when you start
mocking them for no reason and back up your points with half-assed crap of
course thats how you'll view them. 

To be honest though, I hope you are right. I hope that all the
content will be available to everyone on all systems, but I have a very hard
time believing that given my past experience. (particularly with EA)



You could have also easily have voiced your opinion without
acting like such an ***hole, you're no better by then anyone else just because
you have a different perspective. Being an immature ****** by throwing out
meaningless insults doesn’t help either, it does not make you look cool,
certainly doesn’t prove your point, it just hinders the argument and make YOU
look like a total idiot. And THAT my friend, is pathetic.

Grow up. 

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 14 février 2012 - 06:18 .

[NOD-INFORMER37]

 Yes thats a long reply, I know. 

[AlanC9]

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...
 Like I said, some ppl just want ALL the content ....
not leave it to chance.

Ummm.... yep. It's the people who want "ALL the content" who create this business opportunity for Bioware. If more ME fans were like me and didn't particularly care if they had all the stuff or not, these deals wouldn't be worth doing for Bio or anyone else.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

AlanC9 wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...
 Like I said, some ppl just want ALL the content ....
not leave it to chance.

Ummm.... yep. It's the people who want "ALL the content" who create this business opportunity for Bioware. If more ME fans were like me and didn't particularly care if they had all the stuff or not, these deals wouldn't be worth doing for Bio or anyone else.

Yes you are right, those who go after absolutely all
content create business opportunities like these, your point is?

I think you misunderstood, I’m not against dlc in general at
all, I am against how much customers are kept in the dark on these pre-dlc
deals. Specifically for all this overwhelming content for ME3. 

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 14 février 2012 - 06:40 .

[StableZaner]

izmirtheastarach wrote...

FFinfinity1 wrote...

DLCs peeve me off more than anything now. I remember buying Expansion packs for sims 2 and not feeling jipped. Now they make you pay 5-10 bucks for some digital gun. Or take out a part of the original game and sell it to us. Like they did with Zaeed in ME2 (yes he was suppose to be in the original game -,-)

Did you pay for Zaeed? I did not. He came with my game. For free.

He didn't come free though, you would have paid extra for him with the special edition pack.

[Wulfram]

StableZaner wrote...
He didn't come free though, you would have paid extra for him with the special edition pack.

No, he was part of the cerberus network which was included with all new copies.

[Red_robin0]

OK bickering and arguments aside, its at least interesting having a prothean squad mate. does it make complete sense ....hmmmm not really but its a scifi fantasy setting it does not always need to make sense the more you look for things to make sense in games and off topic slightly movies the more you hate them. this is escapist scifi fantasy like Starwars used to be done ruin it with logic and reason enjoy the alternate universe. AND the money thing for those who don't buy collectors edition ok i can see it a bit much for a character but there have been worse things and i know you know what i am speaking about things so terrible i cannot mention them by name for fear of being struck down.

Modifié par Red_robin0, 22 février 2012 - 12:30 .