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[S.A.K]

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

 "If character dead you miss out on content"

I'm sorry but I find this flawed logic simply because not having squadmates can allow people to see something different than what they would have, had the squadmate been there. Thus technically speaking by having a playthrough where you do kill someone off, your seeing more content than what the person who always saves everyone they can would.

Now onto the topic question, let's see now...

Motoko: Didn't recruit Wrex so he ain't there, didn't recruit Grunt, Samara or Tali in ME2 so they most likely won't be there, only casualty in the Suicide Mission was Legion due to a certain Quarian not being there for upgraded shields.
-sniped huge list of playthroughs.
Why I do all those deaths? simple,,, "So many variables" 

How the f*ck did you remember all that??!
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As for me, I never got anyone killed other than by accident in my first playthough where I lost Legion and thane. I might try killing some off after ME3 comes out.

[Darth Kraken]

In my last playthrough, my sentinel from hell killed Garrus and Jack.

[Mr. C]

@OP: An easy and non-metagame way to kill Legion is to send him through the vents with Samara as fire-team leader. Miranda says we need someone who can "command loyalty through experience." Who has more experience than the 1000 y/o Justicar? It makes it all the more surprising when she turns out to be a ******-poor leader.

As for Grunt, when Miranda and Jack have their confrontation, side with Miranda. Take Jack as the Biotic bubble-babe, and bring Zaeed (bottom of the kill-list) and Grunt (top) as your squad. Grunt'll get carried away. "Hey, Jack is our top biotic! How could this have happened? D:!"

Jacob..uhhh....don't do his loyalty mission and send him back with the crew, as the second fire-team leader, or with you to the finale?
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As for the topic, I've been wanting to kill Jack off for awhile now, but I can't seem to muster the heart to do it intentionally >.< Curse my inner-paragon D:<

[GnusmasTHX]

No, I am an indiscriminate murderer.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 09 février 2012 - 03:38 .

[mulder1199]

i've let ole jake and zaeed die on more that one occasion....

[JeffZero]

When I want Jacob dead I send him through the vents since he volunteered. It's not like anyone actually dies up there (well, without garnering a game over, that is) anyway. I really like that death, too -- quick, brutal and Whedon-esque.

While the obligatory counterpoint is that he was often the only survivor of the missions he harps about, it's reasonably safe going to make Zaeed a fire team leader if you want him dead. Your conscience can rest easier on the thought that he ought to have been pretty good at that sort of thing. His death line in such a situation is pretty ace too.

Mr. C's explanation on getting someone offed during "The Long Walk" is a sound one I frequently employ, and it works for several squadmates.

I don't care for "Hold the Line" deaths much as there's no real drive to the cinematics. Unfortunately, this is the easiest place to sully your hands for the softer-bellied squaddies.

[Bullets McDeath]

I had a playthrough where I arranged some deaths on the suicide mission for dramatic effect, but I won't be importing it. You have to eff up SO BAD to have casualties that I just can't believe in the badassness of a Shep that inept.

Modifié par outlaworacle, 09 février 2012 - 03:47 .

[Labrev]

 Between 7 careers, I've killed every squadmate. But my careers generally have the majority of them alive.

[JeffZero]

Loosely related: What the hell is up with BioWare and Jake/Jacob deaths, anyway? The name pops up more times than anyone else's and then when one joins your squad the majority of the fandom dislikes him and he winds up as the number one orchestrated death during the Suicide Mission. (For my money, I do kill him sometimes but not out of dislike; I find his arc impressively tragic if he falls there, and I feel as though it would boost most of my Shepards' resolve to save the galaxy if he falls.)

There's Jacob who's braindead in ME1. Then there's Jacob, the father of an unborn child who died suddenly from a heart condition... also in ME1. So that's two in one game, which is already unusual, and they're both dead. Then in ME2 I could swear I just ran into someone talking about a 'Jake' in the past tense. Curses, it's a quick and sly one and I can't find it on the Wiki just yet.

[macrocarl]

I played through 4 times and one time I gave Legion's body to Cerberus and another time I had him killed off. I know in LotSB if you give the body to Cerberus and read his bio it mentions that one of the examiners was using a portable device near Legion's body and fear an upload. I'm excited to hear his dialog for each scenario. Also one play through I killed off Thane just to see what happens

[JeffZero]

outlaworacle wrote...

I had a playthrough where I arranged some deaths on the suicide mission for dramatic effect, but I won't be importing it. You have to eff up SO BAD to have casualties that I just can't believe in the badassness of a Shep that inept.

Gameplay=/=narrative in this case as far as I'm concerned. The gameplay is just facepalm-inducingly easy as far as keeping people alive is concerned, so I've long since decided to look past it and continue doing what I've done.

[jcolt]

my first playthrough mordin died unintentionally second playthrough noone died third i tried to kill jacob but but thane got carried off by the seeker swarm not really sure why it had to be him and i killed someone else i just can't remember.

[Ice Cold J]

From my six different playthroughs:
Paragon Vanguard: only VV is dead.
Renegade Engineer: Jack, Jacob, and Zaeed are dead.
Renegade Adept FemShep: Jack, Jacob, Legion, Zaeed, and Miranda are dead.
Renegon Sentinel FemShep: Thane, Legion, Grunt, Zaeed, and Miranda are dead.
Paragade Infiltrator: Haven't finished yet, but it's looking like Samara, Thane, and maybe Grunt aren't gonna make it..
Paragon Soldier: Only VV is dead.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

S.A.K wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

 "If character dead you miss out on content"

I'm sorry but I find this flawed logic simply because not having squadmates can allow people to see something different than what they would have, had the squadmate been there. Thus technically speaking by having a playthrough where you do kill someone off, your seeing more content than what the person who always saves everyone they can would.

Now onto the topic question, let's see now...

Motoko: Didn't recruit Wrex so he ain't there, didn't recruit Grunt, Samara or Tali in ME2 so they most likely won't be there, only casualty in the Suicide Mission was Legion due to a certain Quarian not being there for upgraded shields.
-sniped huge list of playthroughs.
Why I do all those deaths? simple,,, "So many variables" 

How the f*ck did you remember all that??!
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As for me, I never got anyone killed other than by accident in my first playthough where I lost Legion and thane. I might try killing some off after ME3 comes out.

Simple, I got a spreadsheet with all the playthroughs listed on them with as much as the choices made as I can remember listed too 

@Gibb OH but I HAVE read the cameo list and obviously that is further more proof of my comment because if you truly had read it, then you would know how some missions are most notably going to play out a bit different if certain people aren't there and thus my point is correct because if they aren't there, then the people that always save them will never see that. WHICH PART OF THAT do you not grasp?

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 09 février 2012 - 04:05 .

[Epsilon330]

I don't plan on killing off anyone, but if I had to, i'd kill off Jack.
Why? She's the most unlikeable squaddie of the series, and she's a brat; plan and simple.

[freejaffanation]

Garrus and Tali. Because they suck. Or because "they're special". I wish I could add Liara to that list.

[incinerator950]

Thinking of killing Tali and Jack, Jacob is a good man, and Garrus might take his usual role he had for ME 1.

I'm too much of a completionist, so I'll end up saving everyone anyway.

[LadyJaneGrey]

Womanizing, humans-first Shep knocked off everyone but Kasumi, Miranda, Jack, and Jacob (someone has to keep the guns in order while he chats up the ladies). 

[jcolt]

PurebredCorn wrote...

jcolt wrote...

my first playthrough mordin died unintentionally second playthrough noone died third i tried to kill jacob but but thane got carried off by the seeker swarm not really sure why it had to be him and i killed someone else i just can't remember.

Oh yeah, I once got Mordin killed accidently myself... I was not happy.

ya i wasn't to thrilled retard me thought for some reason he could survive the vents better than most and one of the greatest scientific minds could hack a freakin lock but i just wanna see how it turns out so i didn't go back and change it.

[Quaay]

I intentionally killed off Miranda and Jacob in a couple playthroughs just because I didn't want Cerberus people on my ship. I don't hate the characters. I just wanted to see how it will play out in ME3 since the old shadow broker said losing them was a crippling blow to Cerberus, or something like that, when I took them on that mission.