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[Firle Fanz]

I´d like to know what happens if I import a save to DA2 where the Warden was magically resurrected in Awakening after doing the Ultimate Sacrifice.
Will the Warden be considered death or alive? Is the game going to pretend the Commander from Awakening is from Orlais?
I´m almost through Origins and while I´d like my warden to sacrifice himself, I don´t want to mess up the save game for an import do DA2.

[nightscrawl]

Firle Fanz wrote...

I´d like to know what happens if I import a save to DA2 where the Warden was magically resurrected in Awakening after doing the Ultimate Sacrifice.
Will the Warden be considered death or alive? Is the game going to pretend the Commander from Awakening is from Orlais?
I´m almost through Origins and while I´d like my warden to sacrifice himself, I don´t want to mess up the save game for an import do DA2.

Just going by what the wiki has down as (1) set plot flags for your import, and (2) pre-built options, I don't think that will make a difference. However, I can understand if you'd rather wait for a player who has actually done this.

Remember that most of the plot flag references in DA2 are pulled for quests: crowning Behlen as King of Orzammar enables the quest Last of His Line in DA2 Act 1, and other similar choices. It's rare that a dialogue reference is made to the Warden in conversation, the most common ones being if the Warden is a mage, and none of those mention whether she is living or dead.

I didn't even know that you could import a sacrifice Warden into Awakening... lol.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 09 février 2012 - 10:29 .

[Dutchess]

As far as I know, when you resurrect your Warden into Awakening, the game assumes you have done the Dark Ritual, so that will be imported in DA2 as well then.

[Firle Fanz]

nightscrawl wrote...

Just going by what the wiki has down as (1) set plot flags for your import, and (2) pre-built options, I don't think that will make a difference. However, I can understand if you'd rather wait for a player who has actually done this.

Remember that most of the plot flag references in DA2 are pulled for quests: crowning Behlen as King of Orzammar enables the quest Last of His Line in DA2 Act 1, and other similar choices. It's rare that a dialogue reference is made to the Warden in conversation, the most common ones being if the Warden is a mage, and none of those mention whether she is living or dead.

I didn't even know that you could import a sacrifice Warden into Awakening... lol.

It´s possible - I haven´t done it yet, but as far as I know the Warden is just back to life without explanation and a few people asking things like "Shouldn´t you be dead?".
Personally I´m okay with this - although a "official" explanation would be better I have no problem thinking up one of my own.

But if I import that save to DA2 I don´t know if the Warden is being considered dead or alive.
I know that the decisions itself will carry over - that´s what the wiki is saying - but I wonder if it will be the Hero of Ferelden or die Orleasian Warden commander who was there in the events of Awakening.
And since my Warden is Dalish there are a few references to him in person in DA2 - that´s the one beside Mage that gets mentioned more often.

As far as I know, when you resurrect your Warden into Awakening, the
game assumes you have done the Dark Ritual, so that will be imported in
DA2 as well then.

Really? That would... suck, honestly.
If that´s the case there is no point in NOT doing the dark ritual.

Modifié par Firle Fanz, 10 février 2012 - 10:24 .

[Dutchess]

Well, that's only if you really want to do Awakening with your Warden as well. You can still sacrifice Alistair or Loghain is you don't want to do the dark ritual.

[Firle Fanz]

renjility wrote...

Well, that's only if you really want to do Awakening with your Warden as well. You can still sacrifice Alistair or Loghain is you don't want to do the dark ritual.

I know, but I wanted an ending where Alistair is king and the Warden kills the Archdemon without the DR, and since it is possible to resurrect him in Awakening I thought it´s worth a shot.
Doing the DR is the second best option for this outcome (and the more logically to be honest), so I´ll stick with that.
I´ve recently lost all my DAO saves - my PS3 broke - so I´d like to create a new save for import, that´s why it´s so important to play Awakening and the other DLC´s.

The next time I play DAO I either sacrifice my Warden without playing Awakening afterwards or bring someone else to kill the archdemon.

Modifié par Firle Fanz, 10 février 2012 - 12:34 .

[erilben]

I thought if you imported an Ultimate Sacrifice save into Awakening, it keeps the flags as the Dark Ritual wasn't completed. Thus DA2 will see it as the Warden died killing the Archdemon. I suppose you pretend that it was the Orlesian Warden did Awakening.

And Bioware deliberately made it vague who is the Warden-Commader in DA2. They never make it out that the Warden-Commander and the Origins Warden is the same person.

Modifié par erilben, 10 février 2012 - 12:41 .

[BevH]

The codex on the Hero of Ferelden is where the warden imports play an impact. I'm not sure what impact that will have for a US warden that continues into Awakening. I do know that imports are really buggy. I imported my US HNF that was to marry Alistair. The codex for that warden read that she made the US. However, it went on to say that she married Alistair and they rule together. Shades of "Psycho" anyone?

[Huntress]

erilben wrote...

I thought if you imported an Ultimate Sacrifice save into Awakening, it keeps the flags as the Dark Ritual wasn't completed. Thus DA2 will see it as the Warden died killing the Archdemon. I suppose you pretend that it was the Orlesian Warden did Awakening.

And Bioware deliberately made it vague who is the Warden-Commader in DA2. They never make it out that the Warden-Commander and the Origins Warden is the same person.

That is correct, The gray warden is an order and they have many OTHER warden-commander's you meet one in legacy.

By the time you meet Anders the "Architect" little problem have solve and you're warden is probably doing Adventures by him/herself or frollocking.

[Archer]

Firle Fanz wrote...

renjility wrote...

Well, that's only if you really want to do Awakening with your Warden as well. You can still sacrifice Alistair or Loghain is you don't want to do the dark ritual.

I know, but I wanted an ending where Alistair is king and the Warden kills the Archdemon without the DR, and since it is possible to resurrect him in Awakening I thought it´s worth a shot.
Doing the DR is the second best option for this outcome (and the more logically to be honest), so I´ll stick with that.
I´ve recently lost all my DAO saves - my PS3 broke - so I´d like to create a new save for import, that´s why it´s so important to play Awakening and the other DLC´s.

The next time I play DAO I either sacrifice my Warden without playing Awakening afterwards or bring someone else to kill the archdemon.

This is actually possible to do. If you Harden Alistair and suggest he marry Anora, when you defeat Loghain at the landsmeet go with Riordans suggestion of making Loghain a grey warden. Alistair will still rage quit your party but instead of legging it or becoming a drunk he will assume the throne and marry Anora. Refuse the dark ritual and let Loghain make the killing blow. Technicaly its Loghain who kills the Archdemon but you get all the glory. Worked for me

Modifié par eveynameiwantisfekintaken, 13 février 2012 - 04:11 .

[Firle Fanz]

erilben wrote...

I thought if you imported an Ultimate Sacrifice save into Awakening, it keeps the flags as the Dark Ritual wasn't completed. Thus DA2 will see it as the Warden died killing the Archdemon. I suppose you pretend that it was the Orlesian Warden did Awakening. 

And Bioware deliberately made it vague who is the Warden-Commader in DA2. They never make it out that the Warden-Commander and the Origins Warden is the same person.

This is not entirely true - if you have, for example, a Dalish Warden (like me), Anders and Merrill have a banter in which they recognize the Warden Commander and the Hero of Ferelden to be the same person.
Apart from that I don´t want my Warden to be irrevocable dead - and playing with my Warden in Awakening just to have the game think it was someone else is... suboptimal.
I know I´m picky about these things but I just want to have a save ready where everything is done right and the flags set properly, no matter if it´s mentioned in DA2 or not.
I guess resurrecting the Warden the Awakening is messing things up, so I refrain from doing so.

The codex on the Hero of Ferelden is where the warden imports play an impact. I'm not sure what impact that will have for a US warden that continues into Awakening. I do know that imports are really buggy. I imported my US HNF that was to marry Alistair. The codex for that warden read that she made the US. However, it went on to say that she married Alistair and they rule together. Shades of "Psycho" anyone?  

I got a strange ending my warden became commander even in death so my guess is she arose from the grave married the king and and funky zombie fudgstickles with him while killing darkspwan with her boney hands of justice 

That... is very disturbing indeed 

  This is actually possible to do. If you Harden Alistair and suggest he marry Anora, when you defeat Loghain at the landsmeet go with Riordans suggestion of making Loghain a grey warden. Alistair will still rage quit your party but instead of legging it or becoming a drunk he will assume the throne and marry Anora. Refuse the dark ritual and let Loghain make the killing blow. Technicaly its Loghain who kills the Archdemon but you get all the glory. Worked for me   

I know, I´ve done that in one playthrough - but it was lost when my console broke.
I guess I´ll do that again in my next playthrough, I like having Loghain as a party member.

[Eyeofanger]

Does Witch hunt has plotflags. Because the dragon age wiki says it has is this true. It's the dragon age wikipage op has posted I always thought witch hunt didn't had any plotflags to be imported to da2

[Lynx1959]

As far as I can understand, even if Alistair takes the final blow in DA 1 he appears as the king in Awakenings!!!! So I assume you can import a char that took the final blow, also if your char was a female noble in DA1 and you got to become his betrothed, Alistair apparently has no recollection of that in Awakenings????

[robertthebard]

Lynx1959 wrote...

As far as I can understand, even if Alistair takes the final blow in DA 1 he appears as the king in Awakenings!!!! So I assume you can import a char that took the final blow, also if your char was a female noble in DA1 and you got to become his betrothed, Alistair apparently has no recollection of that in Awakenings????

The last time I ran Awakening where that happened, Anora showed up.

[Nimpe]

Well, I just imported my Warden who did the ultimate sacrifice and when I spoke to bodahn(I THINK) in DA2 he was talking about how it was a shame the warden died. And yes, I imported this character through awakening and the two standalone adventures.