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[ddv.rsa]

Omega-202 wrote...

But the Salarians and Krogan just don't fit into one of these choices.  The Salarians are logical.  They're not a petty race.  The Krogan Rebellions were hundreds of generations ago for the Salarians.  Its fresh in the minds of the Krogan as many of those still alive fought in the war, but the Salarians are emotionally and physically removed from the Krogan conflict.  There's no reason for them to be upset about curing the Genophage.  

Lol. I guess that's why they had the STG deploying bioweapons to prevent a Krogan recovery.

[All-a-Mort]

Salarians. I'm British and like Gilbert & Sullivan operettas.

[Omega-202]

ddv.rsa wrote...

Omega-202 wrote...

But the Salarians and Krogan just don't fit into one of these choices.  The Salarians are logical.  They're not a petty race.  The Krogan Rebellions were hundreds of generations ago for the Salarians.  Its fresh in the minds of the Krogan as many of those still alive fought in the war, but the Salarians are emotionally and physically removed from the Krogan conflict.  There's no reason for them to be upset about curing the Genophage.  

Lol. I guess that's why they had the STG deploying bioweapons to prevent a Krogan recovery.

Because there was no reason to let them recover.  When Mordin was on the STG mission, Shepard hadn't even discovered the Reaper threat yet.  

Now that theres the threat of the Reapers, the Salarians would be logical and allow for the cure to be distributed.  It only makes sense.  

[incinerator950]

Omega-202 wrote...

xnoxiousx wrote...

Omega-202 wrote...

This is not a choice I'm hoping will come up. The fact of the matter is that Salarians are a logical race. They should see the needs of the galaxy should come first and that the Krogan have proven themselves as fierce and loyal soldiers in the past.

If there really ends up being a petty squabble between these two races, I'll be ashamed of the BioWare writers. The Salarians would not hold a grudge and they'd have faith in their ability to handle the reprecussions of a cured Krogan populace, even if it meant unleashing a second Genophage after the invasion was over.

I dont agree im hoping for another virmire where you must choose. I dont want perfect ending i want stuff to happen and where some races end up badly. 

Ill be ashamed if bioware writers make a prefect ending. 

Who said I wanted a perfect ending?  Who said that I didn't want to necessitate sacrifice?

There are a lot of logical sacrifices.  If the Rachni have been indoctrinated again, I'm going to let them go.  If the Geth have been corrupted again and I have to chose between saving the corrupted Geth or saving the Quarians, I'm chosing the Quarians.  

But the Salarians and Krogan just don't fit into one of these choices.  The Salarians are logical.  They're not a petty race.  The Krogan Rebellions were hundreds of generations ago for the Salarians.  Its fresh in the minds of the Krogan as many of those still alive fought in the war, but the Salarians are emotionally and physically removed from the Krogan conflict.  There's no reason for them to be upset about curing the Genophage.  

Exactly, however the Salarians are just scared about it.  Likewise, they were also involved with modifying the Genophage, inflicting it on the Krogan race a second time.  Out of logic, the majority of them would be scared from the results of the Krogan Rebellions, yet I doubt they despise the Krogan.

[Favourite store on the Citadel]

Krogan.

[ddv.rsa]

King Killoth wrote...

ddv.rsa wrote...

xnoxiousx wrote...

Way i look at is.

Salarians would be less numbers but smarter and able pilot ships 
Krogan would be better in ground combat and have far greater numbers and stength. 

I don't know about that. The Salarian military is small, but very well trained and equipped- especially the elite STG. Physically the Krogan are tougher sure and that might matter in a bar fight, but against Cerberus guns big muscles don't help much. Superior shields and training will make a much bigger difference.

Its like comparing the SAS to Somalian tribal militia. Sure there are a lot more of them and they've led lives of extreme brutality, but that doesn't translate into victory against a credible opponent.

your forgetting the krogen are not jsut brawlers they are a warrior race breed for battle. a krogen child is raised in the art of warfare and tactics they are like the spartens of space. not to mention a lot of them have vorcha fighters under their command. most krogens are warlors or powerful mercenaries. salarians are mostly tech saport and spys not soldiers.

Krogan live brutal lives with constant tribal warfare, that does not make them elite warriors. If you look at the history of ME, who do you suppose held off the Krogan rebellions before the Turians came along? Not the Asari, their military isn't suited for conventional warfare. No, it was the Salarians who fought them for years, and the Krogan were only gradually able to push them back through sheer weight of numbers and with appalling casualties (they used to breed like lice). Then look at Virmire, where Salarians troops gave a good account of themselves against a numerically superior geth force. Salarians do just fine as soldiers.

[Jynthor]

What kind of choice is that, what am I dealing with, children?

[Warrcry13]

If I had to make a choice Salarians. They have more resources and a far more stable society.So less upkeep getting them battle ready, and making sure they don't decide to crush each others skulls.

[ddv.rsa]

Omega-202 wrote...



Because there was no reason to let them recover.  When Mordin was on the STG mission, Shepard hadn't even discovered the Reaper threat yet.  

Now that theres the threat of the Reapers, the Salarians would be logical and allow for the cure to be distributed.  It only makes sense.  

Aside from generating good will from the Krogan, how exactly do you think curing the genophage will affect the war effort?

[A-K-M]

The Salarians obviously, to defeat the Reapers unconventional weapons like the genophage are the only chance of victory.

[Malanek]

Depends whether there is a reliable way of boarding Reapers or not. If so Krogan would be more important, otherwise Salarians.

[Exia001]

Paragon Shep: Krogan
Renegade Shep: Salarians

[PJRobinson]

Salarians - I'd like to cure the genophage but if that made me lose the support of my fave species, forget it.
Most Krogan are unpredictably violent anyway with few exceptions (such as Wrex).

[KotorEffect3]

Krogan because I spent the first two games making pro krogan decisions like sparing wrex and saving the genophage cure data.

[ddv.rsa]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Krogan because I spent the first two games making pro krogan decisions like sparing wrex and saving the genophage cure data.

Talking Wrex down isn't exactly a pro krogan decision, it's just excercising control over your team.

[Omega-202]

ddv.rsa wrote...

Aside from generating good will from the Krogan, how exactly do you think curing the genophage will affect the war effort?

We don't know how long we have to fight the Reapers.  The extermination of the Protheans took decades according to Vigil. 

Krogan reproduce with a 7 week gestation period and can probably have battle ready soldiers in under 10 years.  If their turn around wasn't this quick, then what was the point of the original genophage?  A genophage would have had no effect on the Rebellions unless their numbers on the front lines were being produced with incredible turn over rates.  

From a gameplay perspective, I doubt this war will take the amount of time needed to breed a Krogan army, but the idea is that we can't know that.  Shepard and the Salarians have to look at the big picture.  Yes, you get good will, but you also have a long-run strategy that you're securing.  If the Protheans were able to fight on for so long, who's to say that we couldn't keep up the fight even longer? 

[Cheesy Blue]

Salarians are smart. Krogan are dumb ****s..... The Krogan will live.

[TexasToast712]

I AM KROGAN SYMPATHIZER!

[SubZeroMaster]

Slothful Koala wrote...

I will fix the genophage. Screw anybody that stands in the way, it was unethical and unreasonable.

hoo rah!

[KillTheLastRomantic]

Salarians.

[KotorEffect3]

ddv.rsa wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Krogan because I spent the first two games making pro krogan decisions like sparing wrex and saving the genophage cure data.

Talking Wrex down isn't exactly a pro krogan decision, it's just excercising control over your team.

Maybe that decision in and of itself isn't pro krogan but the consequences are better for getting Shepard on the good side of the Krogan in the long run with Wrex becoming clan chief of one of the most powerful clans if not the most powerful clan.  Though you are not going to know that without meta gaming.  I always saved Wrex anyway because I liked having him on the squad however when I saw the ramifications of that in ME 2 I was more likely to save the genphage data with Wrex around.  So saving Wrex is still an important factor in the Krogan variable.

[Black_Vanguard]

Krogan. Simply because the Krogan have been put in their place before(Read: the Genophage). The Reapers however have never been defeated from what we know(Going by ME1-2) seems like a easy choice. Cut the Krogans loose with a Genophage cure so they can recreate the horde once more(Any word on how fast they can breed?) Once the war with the Reapers is over it will then come down to Wrex(If he survived Virmire) and how mature of a leader he is and if he can keep his people from seeking revenge. Which will be a tall order.

The Salarians IMHO have nothing to worry from the Krogan till after the Reaper War. Then if the worst is to come then the Genophage will have to be unleashed on the Krogan once more. Need all the help you can get.

[ODST 3]

If I think of it as a choice between Krogan (useful warriors in the ongoing war) or Salarians (not as useful warriors) I choose Krogan but if I have to think of it as a choice between Wrex and Mordin (the two best outliers of the race I know), I can't decide.

[JBONE27]

Tough, on the one hand, a krogan could stand up in a fight with one of the smaller reapers, on the other hand, STG probably has more useful intelligence, and would probably have more effective strategies... I'm going to have to go with salarians.