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#1
SubZeroMaster

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after watching this, seems, like demanding/renegading, isnt gonna do it anymore.....

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You realize that could also work the opposite way depending on the person you're asking?

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You're basing that assumption off one situation? If you do paragon the gunship gets destroyed. It may help you more later

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People react differently. That Asari may have been offended by Shepard's arrogance, but I'm sure a Krogan would respect a more demanding and forthcoming Shepard.

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no d00d, i gotta fight the man, im a renegade, no sotryteller r gunna stop me!

paragons r dumb!!11!!one!!!

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So you can't just be a total dick without consequences now? Good.

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Being a jackass doesn't work when you are asking a favor. Common sense.

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Hydralisk wrote...

So you can't just be a total dick without consequences now? Good.


Her job is to fight. Shepard isn't there to win popularity contests, he's there to fight a war.

The Asari are so caught up in their own superiority complexes that they don't listen to others. Personally, I'm going to renegade that scene then kill them all anyway without the Asaris help. I need need to kissass to idiots to get the job done.

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Adanu wrote...

Hydralisk wrote...

So you can't just be a total dick without consequences now? Good.


Her job is to fight. Shepard isn't there to win popularity contests, he's there to fight a war.

The Asari are so caught up in their own superiority complexes that they don't listen to others. Personally, I'm going to renegade that scene then kill them all anyway without the Asaris help. I need need to kissass to idiots to get the job done.


ya srsly, bad4sses r cooler, shepard dont need no asari to win.

eff da police!!!

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Doctalen wrote...

You're basing that assumption off one situation? If you do paragon the gunship gets destroyed. It may help you more later

This.  There were negatives to both conversations.

One costs you a valuable resource because they decide to help, the other makes things tougher for Shepard while also being beneficial in the long run.

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Adanu wrote...

Hydralisk wrote...

So you can't just be a total dick without consequences now? Good.


Her job is to fight. Shepard isn't there to win popularity contests, he's there to fight a war.

The Asari are so caught up in their own superiority complexes that they don't listen to others. Personally, I'm going to renegade that scene then kill them all anyway without the Asaris help. I need need to kissass to idiots to get the job done.

No one is going to sacrifice there people or soldiers for a random human when you do not tell them your reason.

The second option your not even kissing ass, your just giving a reason and not being a demanding little child.

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ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

Doctalen wrote...

You're basing that assumption off one situation? If you do paragon the gunship gets destroyed. It may help you more later

This.  There were negatives to both conversations.

One costs you a valuable resource because they decide to help, the other makes things tougher for Shepard while also being beneficial in the long run.


I wouldn't ask for help then. If I'd knew the vehicle will get blown to bits 100% sure.

I can fight this war by myself anyhows, every other soldier in the battlefield can go home. B)

Hydralisk wrote...

Adanu wrote...

Hydralisk wrote...

So you can't just be a total dick without consequences now? Good.


Her job is to fight. Shepard isn't there to win popularity contests, he's there to fight a war.

The
Asari are so caught up in their own superiority complexes that they
don't listen to others. Personally, I'm going to renegade that scene
then kill them all anyway without the Asaris help. I need need to
kissass to idiots to get the job done.

No one is going to sacrifice there people or soldiers for a random human when you do not tell them your reason.

The second option your not even kissing ass, your just giving a reason and not being a demanding little child.


And this... So much this. :D

Modifié par Arppis, 09 février 2012 - 09:08 .


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Arppis wrote...

ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

Doctalen wrote...

You're basing that assumption off one situation? If you do paragon the gunship gets destroyed. It may help you more later

This.  There were negatives to both conversations.

One costs you a valuable resource because they decide to help, the other makes things tougher for Shepard while also being beneficial in the long run.


I wouldn't ask for help then. If I'd knew the vehicle will get blown to bits 100% sure.

I can fight this war by myself anyhows, every other soldier in the battlefield can go home. B)

Hydralisk wrote...

Adanu wrote...

Hydralisk wrote...

So you can't just be a total dick without consequences now? Good.


Her job is to fight. Shepard isn't there to win popularity contests, he's there to fight a war.

The
Asari are so caught up in their own superiority complexes that they
don't listen to others. Personally, I'm going to renegade that scene
then kill them all anyway without the Asaris help. I need need to
kissass to idiots to get the job done.

No one is going to sacrifice there people or soldiers for a random human when you do not tell them your reason.

The second option your not even kissing ass, your just giving a reason and not being a demanding little child.


And this... So much this. :D

They sure as hell show the thing getting blown up. Maybe it's part of their editing though. I myself am making an assumption 

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and this is the future of our civilization

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-Skorpious- wrote...

People react differently. That Asari may have been offended by Shepard's arrogance, but I'm sure a Krogan would respect a more demanding and forthcoming Shepard.


True that, the Renegade dialogue is something I always use on Tuchanka in ME2. B)

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Hydralisk wrote...
No one is going to sacrifice there people or soldiers for a random human when you do not tell them your reason.

The second option your not even kissing ass, your just giving a reason and not being a demanding little child.


Shepard is hardly a random human at this point...

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Berkilak wrote...

Hydralisk wrote...
No one is going to sacrifice there people or soldiers for a random human when you do not tell them your reason.

The second option your not even kissing ass, your just giving a reason and not being a demanding little child.


Shepard is hardly a random human at this point...


I am sure everyone cares more about Shepard then their own people. /sarcasm.

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Arppis wrote...

I wouldn't ask for help then. If I'd knew the vehicle will get blown to bits 100% sure.

I can fight this war by myself anyhows, every other soldier in the battlefield can go home. B)


That's like saying no one has to die in war, they are going to die whether you like it or not, use paragon or renegade.  If they spend their lives for victory then its worth it either way.

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This indicates to me that choices, either Renegade or Paragon will have a lot more significant impact so I'm going to think carefully before each one.

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Part of this makes me wonder how the convo system works now though. Were those persuasions, or were they just convos? If persuasions, did the person just not have enough points in that particular branch? I personally hope it just means choosing a different dialogue option is more than just an automatic win button, and you actually have to pay attention to what you're saying. I would expect renegade dialogue to work more on Krogan, and other situations where immediate action is called for.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

Berkilak wrote...

Hydralisk wrote...
No one is going to sacrifice there people or soldiers for a random human when you do not tell them your reason.

The second option your not even kissing ass, your just giving a reason and not being a demanding little child.


Shepard is hardly a random human at this point...


I am sure everyone cares more about Shepard then their own people. /sarcasm.

Shepard is a renowned SPECTRE who is apparently co-ordinating a galaxy-wide offensive, who had also been warning people about the Reaper threat for years prior to the invasion. Regardless of his species, that demands respect. Particularly from a Council race.

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Dont assume that...

paragon choice results in help from a gunship but it looks like alot of asari will die. Where if your renengade you get no help but in longer wrong you saving lives even if you look like a dick.

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Yes, there seems to be more drastic consequences based on your interactions which is great. But i bet convincing the asari's to help ends up costing their lives. Consequences.

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Order a soldier to do her job and she disobeys.

Tell the soldier that you need an artifact and say "pretty please" and she obeys.

CONSEQUENCES.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 09 février 2012 - 09:35 .


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G3rman wrote...

Arppis wrote...

I wouldn't ask for help then. If I'd knew the vehicle will get blown to bits 100% sure.

I can fight this war by myself anyhows, every other soldier in the battlefield can go home. B)


That's like saying no one has to die in war, they are going to die whether you like it or not, use paragon or renegade.  If they spend their lives for victory then its worth it either way.


I'll do things my way. It's usualy the best way. B)

Why toss these people in the way if they are just going to screw up. I'd rather just tell them to sit tight while I'll jog to that temple and get things done myself.

Dave of Canada wrote...

Order a soldier to do her job and she disobeys.

Tell the soldier that you need an artifact and say "pretty please" and she obeys.

CONSEQUENCES.


She's not under your command.

Modifié par Arppis, 09 février 2012 - 09:36 .