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[pfhorlorn]

Ice Cold J wrote...
Cause, even though she is a marine and all that you mentioned, I just don't like the idea of promoting cross-gender violence.
I've never been in the armed services, but I believe that, in sparring exercises, they match women with women.
Regardless, in something like this, where younger viewers could see it, I'd just as soon there not be a depiction of a woman getting hit by a man, ESPECIALLY in a friendly atmosphere. This could, possibly in the wrong boy's mind, make it seem like women are OK to hit, as long as it's a friendly competition.
Besides, the same point could be gotten across or even make FemShep look better if she dodges all his attacks and lands a right cross to him. Dontcha think?

So you're okay with younger viewers hearing swearing, engaging in sex and innuendo, murdering a plethora of people, and so on and so forth, yet when Shepard and Vega get into a little friendly sparring match, you're suddenly embracing chivalristic moralism? I can't imagine the extent of the cognitive dissonance your mind must face on a daily basis if you can't see any substantial flaws in your logic.

And are you implying that it's wrong for men and women to spar together for fun? I'm of the ovarian gender myself, and I've had grand old times with my male friend, whacking the crap out of each other with unreasonably pain-enducing foam practice swords.

If two individuals are entering into a consensual agreement to spar with one another, sex is irrelevant. If a child happened to not understand and you weren't adept enough to explain the exact nature of that agreement, then that's your fault, not the fault of said individuals. While biological women may traditionally be less endowed with muscle compared to biological men, that doesn't mean a woman can't have the potential to be a lean, mean fighting machine like any of her phallus-having compatriots.

So if you're so concerned with kids seeing Mister Vega hitting the female incarnation of Shepard, who absolutely, 100%, no question agreed to engage in a friendly beat-'em-up competition, maybe you should take some time to reflect introspectively, and see how you're most definitely overreacting in such a knee-jerk way so as to suggest that you really buy the societal imposition crap of thinking there's anything wrong with what femShep and Vega were doing.

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and also: pretty good trailer, by the way.

Modifié par koopaonfire, 11 février 2012 - 06:09 .

[shumworld]

I'm hopping a lot of those me2 cameos were place holders. It dosen't make sense to that not all of the ME2 squadies didn't get new outfits.

[Good Chaos7]

koopaonfire wrote...

Ice Cold J wrote...
Cause, even though she is a marine and all that you mentioned, I just don't like the idea of promoting cross-gender violence.
I've never been in the armed services, but I believe that, in sparring exercises, they match women with women.
Regardless, in something like this, where younger viewers could see it, I'd just as soon there not be a depiction of a woman getting hit by a man, ESPECIALLY in a friendly atmosphere. This could, possibly in the wrong boy's mind, make it seem like women are OK to hit, as long as it's a friendly competition.
Besides, the same point could be gotten across or even make FemShep look better if she dodges all his attacks and lands a right cross to him. Dontcha think?

So you're okay with younger viewers hearing swearing, engaging in sex and innuendo, murdering a plethora of people, and so on and so forth, yet when Shepard and Vega get into a little friendly sparring match, you're suddenly embracing chauvinistic moralism? I can't imagine the extent of the cognitive dissonance your mind must face on a daily basis if you can't see any substantial flaws in your logic.

And are you implying that it's wrong for men and women to spar together for fun? I'm of the ovarian gender myself, and I've had grand old times with my male friend, whacking the crap out of each other with unreasonably pain-enducing foam practice swords.

If two individuals are entering into a consensual agreement to spar with one another, sex is irrelevant. If a child happened to not understand and you weren't adept enough to explain the exact nature of that agreement, then that's your fault, not the fault of said individuals. While biological women may traditionally be less endowed with muscle compared to biological men, that doesn't mean a woman can't have the potential to be a lean, mean fighting machine like any of her phallus-having compatriots.

So if you're so concerned with kids seeing Mister Vega hitting the female incarnation of Shepard, who absolutely, 100%, no question agreed to engage in a friendly beat-'em-up competition, maybe you should take some time to reflect introspectively, and see how you're most definitely overreacting in such a knee-jerk way so as to suggest that you really buy the societal imposition crap of thinking there's anything wrong with what femShep and Vega were doing.

Very well Said!  I couldn't have put it better! but if it helps! A picture is worth a thousand words!
by ~ShadowMaginis ~ I think..

[MaraGriffyn]

Fantastic trailer! I'll definitely be watching this one a few (dozen) more times!

[Ghost_Nappa]

Hmmm I seem to be missing my pants...and the lower half of my body from the awesome trailer.
Well played, bioware.

[MouseNo4]

Im going to lose 30 days of my life after the 9th arent i?

[Jaulen]

I like my femShep, she just seems to fit the voice better.....but I do like that red hair color better than what was available before.

but YEAH! to a FemShep video! It was awesome!

Why can't be be March 6th already???? And why did I have to start a new job???? Now I cant take a day (or two) off to power through a play ...

[KenLyns]

[snfonseka]

Love to see Miranda, but I am not happy with her short hair.

[Yuqi]

KenLyns wrote...

lol

[PSUHammer]

Yuqi wrote...

KenLyns wrote...
*snip*

lol

+1

Modifié par Hammer6767, 11 février 2012 - 04:33 .

[Good Chaos7]

KenLyns wrote...

OH FUUU!! LOL
 The salarians like :mellow:"yeah whatever.."
:lol:HAHAHA!!

[PSUHammer]

koopaonfire wrote...

Ice Cold J wrote...
Cause, even though she is a marine and all that you mentioned, I just don't like the idea of promoting cross-gender violence.
I've never been in the armed services, but I believe that, in sparring exercises, they match women with women.
Regardless, in something like this, where younger viewers could see it, I'd just as soon there not be a depiction of a woman getting hit by a man, ESPECIALLY in a friendly atmosphere. This could, possibly in the wrong boy's mind, make it seem like women are OK to hit, as long as it's a friendly competition.
Besides, the same point could be gotten across or even make FemShep look better if she dodges all his attacks and lands a right cross to him. Dontcha think?

So you're okay with younger viewers hearing swearing, engaging in sex and innuendo, murdering a plethora of people, and so on and so forth, yet when Shepard and Vega get into a little friendly sparring match, you're suddenly embracing chauvinistic moralism? I can't imagine the extent of the cognitive dissonance your mind must face on a daily basis if you can't see any substantial flaws in your logic.

And are you implying that it's wrong for men and women to spar together for fun? I'm of the ovarian gender myself, and I've had grand old times with my male friend, whacking the crap out of each other with unreasonably pain-enducing foam practice swords.

If two individuals are entering into a consensual agreement to spar with one another, sex is irrelevant. If a child happened to not understand and you weren't adept enough to explain the exact nature of that agreement, then that's your fault, not the fault of said individuals. While biological women may traditionally be less endowed with muscle compared to biological men, that doesn't mean a woman can't have the potential to be a lean, mean fighting machine like any of her phallus-having compatriots.

So if you're so concerned with kids seeing Mister Vega hitting the female incarnation of Shepard, who absolutely, 100%, no question agreed to engage in a friendly beat-'em-up competition, maybe you should take some time to reflect introspectively, and see how you're most definitely overreacting in such a knee-jerk way so as to suggest that you really buy the societal imposition crap of thinking there's anything wrong with what femShep and Vega were doing.

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and also: pretty good trailer, by the way.

LOL...best retort on BSN today.  Well said, lady.  

[PSUHammer]

You know, after my recent renegade playthrough (first as Femshep) and after this trailer, I actually want the Mass Effect movie to potray Shepard as female.

[jtrook]

S1L0 wrote...

This is the Chick I'm Checking For. Best Looks For the role IMO

The one where she faces the council is off but these keep that elegant but fierce look. Of course in ME1 and ME2 the camera angle would literally change how my character looked.(I guess it was Cheek gaunt or nose options)Still an improvement over the original. 

[Lasien]

Good Chaos7 wrote...

koopaonfire wrote...

Ice Cold J wrote...
Cause, even though she is a marine and all that you mentioned, I just don't like the idea of promoting cross-gender violence.
I've never been in the armed services, but I believe that, in sparring exercises, they match women with women.
Regardless, in something like this, where younger viewers could see it, I'd just as soon there not be a depiction of a woman getting hit by a man, ESPECIALLY in a friendly atmosphere. This could, possibly in the wrong boy's mind, make it seem like women are OK to hit, as long as it's a friendly competition.
Besides, the same point could be gotten across or even make FemShep look better if she dodges all his attacks and lands a right cross to him. Dontcha think?

So you're okay with younger viewers hearing swearing, engaging in sex and innuendo, murdering a plethora of people, and so on and so forth, yet when Shepard and Vega get into a little friendly sparring match, you're suddenly embracing chauvinistic moralism? I can't imagine the extent of the cognitive dissonance your mind must face on a daily basis if you can't see any substantial flaws in your logic.

And are you implying that it's wrong for men and women to spar together for fun? I'm of the ovarian gender myself, and I've had grand old times with my male friend, whacking the crap out of each other with unreasonably pain-enducing foam practice swords.

If two individuals are entering into a consensual agreement to spar with one another, sex is irrelevant. If a child happened to not understand and you weren't adept enough to explain the exact nature of that agreement, then that's your fault, not the fault of said individuals. While biological women may traditionally be less endowed with muscle compared to biological men, that doesn't mean a woman can't have the potential to be a lean, mean fighting machine like any of her phallus-having compatriots.

So if you're so concerned with kids seeing Mister Vega hitting the female incarnation of Shepard, who absolutely, 100%, no question agreed to engage in a friendly beat-'em-up competition, maybe you should take some time to reflect introspectively, and see how you're most definitely overreacting in such a knee-jerk way so as to suggest that you really buy the societal imposition crap of thinking there's anything wrong with what femShep and Vega were doing.

Very well Said!  I couldn't have put it better! but if it helps! A picture is worth a thousand words!
by ~ShadowMaginis ~ I think..

To both of you... Thank You, thank you so much! Summed Up my thoughts exactly. I'm male, by the way.

Also, Trailer is awesome. (Samara! Yeeee!!! ). I'm not sure how I feel about default Femshep. It's not bad, but I don't like it as much as mine (she's based on Poppy Montgomerey). I don't think I've seen enough of her in action to decide, though.

[Inspectre]

KenLyns wrote...
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koopaonfire wrote...

... yet when Shepard and Vega get into a little friendly sparring match, you're suddenly embracing chauvinistic moralism?

As opposed to chivalric moralism? In which case, Vega would not agree to fight Shepard?

[Shiara_Sariss]

Uinen03 wrote...

So epic! Femshep>Maleshep. :3

She really is a bamf compared to maleshep. Renegade Infiltrators FTW. :happy:

[fighter2323]

Did anyone see male shepard in the femsheps trailer I did hes with Miranda -5 points for not full female trailer.  
 its at 1:03

Modifié par fighter2323, 11 février 2012 - 05:29 .

[someone else]

Lasien wrote...

Good Chaos7 wrote...

koopaonfire wrote...

Ice Cold J wrote...
Cause, even though she is a marine and all that you mentioned, I just don't like the idea of promoting cross-gender violence.
I've never been in the armed services, but I believe that, in sparring exercises, they match women with women.
Regardless, in something like this, where younger viewers could see it, I'd just as soon there not be a depiction of a woman getting hit by a man, ESPECIALLY in a friendly atmosphere. This could, possibly in the wrong boy's mind, make it seem like women are OK to hit, as long as it's a friendly competition.
Besides, the same point could be gotten across or even make FemShep look better if she dodges all his attacks and lands a right cross to him. Dontcha think?

So you're okay with younger viewers hearing swearing, engaging in sex and innuendo, murdering a plethora of people, and so on and so forth, yet when Shepard and Vega get into a little friendly sparring match, you're suddenly embracing chauvinistic moralism? I can't imagine the extent of the cognitive dissonance your mind must face on a daily basis if you can't see any substantial flaws in your logic.

And are you implying that it's wrong for men and women to spar together for fun? I'm of the ovarian gender myself, and I've had grand old times with my male friend, whacking the crap out of each other with unreasonably pain-enducing foam practice swords.

If two individuals are entering into a consensual agreement to spar with one another, sex is irrelevant. If a child happened to not understand and you weren't adept enough to explain the exact nature of that agreement, then that's your fault, not the fault of said individuals. While biological women may traditionally be less endowed with muscle compared to biological men, that doesn't mean a woman can't have the potential to be a lean, mean fighting machine like any of her phallus-having compatriots.

So if you're so concerned with kids seeing Mister Vega hitting the female incarnation of Shepard, who absolutely, 100%, no question agreed to engage in a friendly beat-'em-up competition, maybe you should take some time to reflect introspectively, and see how you're most definitely overreacting in such a knee-jerk way so as to suggest that you really buy the societal imposition crap of thinking there's anything wrong with what femShep and Vega were doing.

Very well Said!  I couldn't have put it better! but if it helps! A picture is worth a thousand words!
by ~ShadowMaginis ~ I think..

To both of you... Thank You, thank you so much! Summed Up my thoughts exactly. I'm male, by the way.
.

Oooh - koopa et al, how can you all be so insensitive - Ice cold j is a voice in the wilderness speaking up for the despicable and graituitous violence repeatedley (and joyously by some twisted spirits) inflicted upon the likes of the hapless Khalisa ben sini Al-Jalani - yet another delicate femine victim of testosterone-fueled blind agression - clearly the goal of all right-thinking persons is to demand bioware purge the series of those unfortunate episodes  --

[Yuqi]

When hale says ship..it sounds like chip..

[someone else]

Yuqi wrote...When hale says ship..it sounds like chip..

so? ...according to ms vas Normandy, "Sheeps are our most important resource"

Modifié par someone else, 11 février 2012 - 06:03 .

[pfhorlorn]

Dragon XIX wrote...

As opposed to chivalric moralism? In which case, Vega would not agree to fight Shepard?

Oh wow, I totally used chauvinistic wrong. Godsdram, I'm dumb. I apologize. I never make mistakes like that, either, so this is all the more embarrassing for me. I em trueli an ssmart persin.

Modifié par koopaonfire, 11 février 2012 - 06:10 .

[KenLyns]

[MasterKiller64]

Kinda odd how Jacob and Miranda were wearing their Cerberus uniforms (though lacking the cerberus symbol) in the trailer. You would think with them leaving cerberus they would get new uniforms.