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#1026
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Cairodin wrote...

I don't normally comment, but I've noticed a bit of negativity about this trailer and I want to help to balance that if I can.

This trailer was awesome, and it would have been great even if it hadn't featured FemShep. That's what makes it so special, though. BioWare often says they listen to their fans closely, and if you weren't already convinced you just have to look at this trailer to believe it.

People are going to squabble over the details (why is it always the female characters' appearances that gets criticized so much? And in such a bipolar manner, too re:"TOO SEXY"/"NOT SEXY ENOUGH"), but I guess it's because they care so much. It seems the "immersion threshold" can be pretty variable between individuals, hahaha. To those people obsessed with these details, I'd probably prescribe a chill pill and recommend using the character creation system, but that's just me.

Anyway, FemShep is strong and beautiful, the trailer is exciting and well executed, and haters are always ever inclined to hate.
Thanks for listening to your fans, BioWare. Good job.


^This was a very intelligent, well mannered response to some of the (as you put) it negativity in this thread. I couldn't agree more on any of your statement.

And thanks from me as well Bioware! Can't wait for March 6th.

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Great trailer!!!
I have kept away from the recent videos so I might not be completely up to date as to what might already have been shown. But as far as this one goes, despite all the cool big stuff that's happening, what I liked most are the minor, little things. Little animations like Joker fiddling with his hat or how Anderson throws the dog-tags to Shepard. They look great and it shows that BW put a lot of effort even into these minor details. Just finished ME1 yesterday night and this trailer makes me realise how static it still was compared to what they can do in ME2 and especially now.
Oh, this made waiting even harder.

And I really like the new fenShep as well. way better than the old default IMO and I don't think she looks too young or barbie-like or whatever people were saying.

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Vicki Taylor wrote...

I'm so glad they kept their promise and gave us some Femshep love and all that stuff. Trailer in itself is good, I love Jen Hale's voice.
But seriously, from what I've seen on these concept arts... This face is a joke. A failure. Utter failure. Those lips... Really? That's just ridiculous.
I'm disappointed. After seeing a perfectly done default female character we had in Dragon Age 2, I expected MUCH much better from BioWare.
Still, good to see a female video game heroine getting so much attention.


^ This.

Great trailer, nice looking cover art. Bad translation of art to character model.

Modifié par Trapper_920, 11 février 2012 - 12:22 .


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Cairodin wrote...

I don't normally comment, but I've noticed a bit of negativity about this trailer and I want to help to balance that if I can.

This trailer was awesome, 


Thats all thats needed!   :)

I think the vast vast majority agree.   A couple of daft posts here and there certainly arnt going to take away the overwhelming success this clearly is!    Best trailer by a long long way!  I may also add the new femshep is fantastic!!! 

B) :happy:

Modifié par Captain Crash, 11 février 2012 - 12:27 .


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I still think hale tries too hard but the trailer was great and damn those cutscenes are amazing


the ME movie better look that good

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crimzontearz wrote...

I still think hale tries too hard but the trailer was great and damn those cutscenes are amazing


the ME movie better look that good


I wouldn't count on it.

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Yea I'll leave it at that because that a whole other beast.

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one can hope...

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

lady winde wrote...

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

1) Her face proportionality is off...I think I can even pinpoint it. It's very wide, and she's got very severe features including a heavy-set jaw, very high and prominent cheekbones, and just a bulky facial structure in general. Then you add a delicate little nose, cute lips, and huge eyes, and it makes it look pretty unnatural. I know BioWare has tried very hard to make a FemShep that looks realistic for us, but I don't think they did that very well. She doesn't look real at all to me...not like any actual person I've ever seen. It's almost as if they tried too hard to combine a strong look with a feminine look, and it's not working.


That's it - that's what was throwing me off about her face before, but I couldn't pinpoint what the specific issue was.

 
If her face is turned to the side slightly or at an angle it looks as though her face is too... out? Forward? I don't really know how to describe it, but that's what's off for me anyways. Other than that and her eyebrows (a bit too heavy but that's my personal preference) I like it. I know Bioware really tried for us and I'm glad there are those that really and truly love her look.

Her trailer is pretty kick ass regardless.

Can't wait to see if they happen to have new hairstyles in store for us. Can't wait to do some customizing. :3


YES. This. It's painfully obvious at 0:43 in the trailer. At some angles, she looks okay...at others, she ranges from looking like a guy with a woman's face to flat-out unnatural. I might also add she has almost no forehead to speak of...I'm imagining the skull underneath and it doesn't look right. No matter how many times I look at it, I can't get it to look right.

I am pretty happy we got a FemShep trailer, though. This is the best marketing she's had ever...that any female lead video game character has had, really.

I agree! The proportions are off, yes, and she does look unnatural. It's just there. But nothing too tragic either, talk about an inprovement, I think I like it enough to give it a playthrough, we'll see. =) Also can't wait to play around with the new and improved customization options.

Overall I really have to commend the marketing, all the hard work behind this, all the love for our FemShep... THANK YOU! And the trailer itself was incredible, I simply loved it, not enough compliments. Great job! <3

Modifié par BhelShep, 11 février 2012 - 12:42 .


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Loved it.

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Thanks for listening BioWare. This made my day!

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Captain Crash wrote...


Cairodin wrote...

I don't normally comment, but I've noticed a bit of negativity about this trailer and I want to help to balance that if I can.

This trailer was awesome, 


Thats all thats needed!   :)

I think the vast vast majority agree.   A couple of daft posts here and there certainly arnt going to take away the overwhelming success this clearly is!    Best trailer by a long long way!  I may also add the new femshep is fantastic!!! 

B) :happy:




Just don't pay heed to any of those posts. FemShep finally got her well deserved well done tribute and today one big battle is won. Enjoy your success as FemShep and don't pay heed to petty souls... there will be always posts like that. The only shame is that some people don't realise that miracle actually occured. For the first time male and female hero of one game are standing side by side as equals and it is wonderful. And it all happened thanks to both male and female players and BW - even Clara Zetkin would be proud. And the good thing is - who cares how default Shepards look anyway, we all have our own unique ones. :)

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okay, here are all the FemShep pics I took from the demo

forward shot 1
looking up
looking left
looking right
looking down
forward shot 2

I might post more pics later!

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Excellent trailer. I look forward to playing with my custom Renegade FemShep more than the default one though.

That said, the default FemShep looks good (perhaps not what I'd expect out of a seasoned commander... but good nonetheless).

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Interesting....Shepard is now a full commander instead of a lieutenant commander.

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Figured I'd tone down the makeup and see what it looked like

Image IPB

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The trailer was great. I will be importing from ME1/2 so how the default looks is not that important to my game. Can always import a canon Jane from ME2 to compare if curious.
Does anyone know if we will be able to tweak existing chars or if we need to start from scratch to make changes?

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I loved it.
Seeing the super brief glimpses of Miranda and Samara made me realize how damn excited I am to get this game. =D

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Wonderllama4 wrote...

okay, here are all the FemShep pics I took from the demo

forward shot 1
looking up
looking left
looking right
looking down
forward shot 2

I might post more pics later!


Wow, her makeup looks a lot less heavy in those shots. That's interesting.

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My mind was blown away...

Waiting was already hard enough. Now 3/6 can't come soon enough. :)

#1045
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This video goes to the fans who can appreciate FemShep...it's awesomeness has to go to Jennifer Hale.

#1046
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Less Makeup was EXACTLY what I wanted.
Wonderllama those shots are basically Perfect for what I wanted.

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Wonderllama4 wrote...

okay, here are all the FemShep pics I took from the demo

forward shot 1
looking up
looking left
looking right
looking down
forward shot 2

I might post more pics later!


Wow, those actually look really good.

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She's a bad goth and not in a good way either. I really hate her eye shadow and weather its black or red her hair still look terrible. She's almost like the space version of Joli and I'm not a Joli fan either.

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Wonderllama4 wrote...

okay, here are all the FemShep pics I took from the demo

forward shot 1
looking up
looking left
looking right
looking down
forward shot 2

I might post more pics later!

I have to say she looks way better in these. Thank You for the pics! :)

Like I said, it's a case of wait and see, i guess. I might end up falling completely in love with her appearance. Kind of already am, LOL. And even if not... we still have customization, right? :P It's gonna be Win x Win either way!

Can't wait to play!!! And these trailers... totally not helping...! =D
(Perhaps I should keep a safe distance until my game arrives).

Modifié par BhelShep, 11 février 2012 - 01:25 .


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Captain Crash wrote...


Cairodin wrote...

I don't normally comment, but I've noticed a bit of negativity about this trailer and I want to help to balance that if I can.

This trailer was awesome, 


Thats all thats needed!   :)

I think the vast vast majority agree.   A couple of daft posts here and there certainly arnt going to take away the overwhelming success this clearly is!    Best trailer by a long long way!  I may also add the new femshep is fantastic!!! 

B) :happy:




That really was the best trailer we have seen so far and there have been some good ones the last few days.  Also saw a return the citadel tower.  Can't wait to return the airquotes.