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[slimgrin]

I'm leary of this too, but I don't think it can be fairly criticized until we play the game.

[Siegdrifa]

Stanley Woo wrote...

This is a reminder to everyone that swearing and personal attacks are not permitted in our forum. We can (and should be able to) disagree with each other without resorting to jerkface behaviour. Thank you.

Easy to say for a volus ... not everybody wear a mask to hide their face.

Modifié par Siegdrifa, 10 février 2012 - 05:45 .

[StephanieBengal]

BiO_MaN wrote...

What everyone else before me has said, what's wrong with having game modes for those that cannot play games well or those who do not want to make the important decisions in the game and let the default ones slide?

It's not like the game suffers for it, and it's not like the game forces you to choose a mode that does not fit you.

You still have the option to play the game normally as a RPG. There are just two extra modes in addition.

Sheesh!

Nothing is wrong and it's a video game. 

Video Game. 

People can play it as they want, maybe enjoy it, maybe not enjoy it. 

[Tazzmission]

Prismvg wrote...

It's always baffling to me how additional (and optional at the same time) content upsets players.

i know right? seriously we are all spoiled but geez some of the stuff i see on here is pretty disgusting when it comes to comments and complaints.

[Kekkis]

Pattonesque wrote...

Kekkis wrote...

Pattonesque wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

Dragon Age 2: "We want Call of Duties audience"
SWTOR: "We want World of Warcrafts audience"
Mass Effect 3: "We want Gears of Wars audience"

I'm gonna laugh when ME3 fails along with SWTOR and DA2

Yes, look at how badly this horrible, horrible game is failing:

*shameless snip*

And how many of those preorders are from people, who don´t have ME1 and ME2? You spam that image everywhere. Even average husk like me can figure out, that lots of people will pre-order ME3, becouse they have played previous games.

The game is (about) doubling its previous pre-orders. Therefore it's not failing. What's your point?

My point is, that people want to see the end of Shepards story, so pre-orders might be larger part of total sales, than average game has.

[Zkyire]

Tazzmission wrote...

Prismvg wrote...

It's always baffling to me how additional (and optional at the same time) content upsets players.

i know right? seriously we are all spoiled but geez some of the stuff i see on here is pretty disgusting when it comes to comments and complaints.

Agreed.

What if people have already played the game like 10 times, and want to do a run or two focusing only on the action?

Having that option would be nice.

Or people who have a borderline opinion on roleplaying games.. it could be a nice gateway for them to play the action mode and then gradually build up to the full RPG style.

More options does not mean dumbing down.

[Pattonesque]

Kekkis wrote...

Pattonesque wrote...

Kekkis wrote...

Pattonesque wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

Dragon Age 2: "We want Call of Duties audience"
SWTOR: "We want World of Warcrafts audience"
Mass Effect 3: "We want Gears of Wars audience"

I'm gonna laugh when ME3 fails along with SWTOR and DA2

Yes, look at how badly this horrible, horrible game is failing:

*shameless snip*

And how many of those preorders are from people, who don´t have ME1 and ME2? You spam that image everywhere. Even average husk like me can figure out, that lots of people will pre-order ME3, becouse they have played previous games.

The game is (about) doubling its previous pre-orders. Therefore it's not failing. What's your point?

My point is, that people want to see the end of Shepards story, so pre-orders might be larger part of total sales, than average game has.

...and therefore it's not a failure. Were it a failure, people would let their outrage over petty changes to game mechanics outweigh their desire to see the end of the story, and PREORDER CANCELLED BIOWARE.

[CerberusSoldier]

Oh wow all the crying from 2 and now EA adds 3 new game modes to 3 and you all are still whining EA was right in adding the 3 modes play rpg mode and deal with it . Its really that simple

[Tooneyman]

Zkyire wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Prismvg wrote...

It's always baffling to me how additional (and optional at the same time) content upsets players.

i know right? seriously we are all spoiled but geez some of the stuff i see on here is pretty disgusting when it comes to comments and complaints.

Agreed.

What if people have already played the game like 10 times, and want to do a run or two focusing only on the action?

Having that option would be nice.

Or people who have a borderline opinion on roleplaying games.. it could be a nice gateway for them to play the action mode and then gradually build up to the full RPG style.

More options does not mean dumbing down.

Kind of like people did in ME2 suicide mission. They played it on instane and didn't get any of the mods just to do it.

[DJBare]

In an alternative reality...

Bad King wrote...

Why would anyone choose anything other than action mode?

[bennyjammin79]

This is going places.

[GuardianAngel470]

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 10 février 2012 - 08:36 .

[Yuoaman]

Is it six months ago again?

[Tazzmission]

Zkyire wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Prismvg wrote...

It's always baffling to me how additional (and optional at the same time) content upsets players.

i know right? seriously we are all spoiled but geez some of the stuff i see on here is pretty disgusting when it comes to comments and complaints.

Agreed.

What if people have already played the game like 10 times, and want to do a run or two focusing only on the action?

Having that option would be nice.

Or people who have a borderline opinion on roleplaying games.. it could be a nice gateway for them to play the action mode and then gradually build up to the full RPG style.

More options does not mean dumbing down.

exactly! and i have played both games of 1 and 2 around maybe 60 times total and even i am like ok something new needs to be added.

and whats interesting about the 3 modes is its all OPTIONAL meaning it gives the player a choice to what they want to do and not automaticly set and feel forced.

[GnusmasTHX]

No, OP. Only you'd be confused by those options.

[Ianamus]

To all the people saying it's "additional" content, it's not. Taking out a feature of the game and calling it a "mode" adds nothing to the game- it just lets you choose to have less content. 

While I know everybody is entitled to their opinions and some people will enjoy the mode I do share the OP's concerns. Several people will probably just choose "action mode" without really understanding what it is, just becuase it sounds cooler and is the first option in the list.

While it probably is just alphabetical order, a nagging voice in the back of my head is saying that action mode comes first becuase Bioware are trying to aim for that market above the others. That might just be an overly cynical look at it though. 

[Wulfram]

I do think that with the name - which really sounds more positive than "RPG" - and putting it first some people might end up picking it by default and missing the full game.

[The_mango55]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

The only problem I have is that if someone new to Mass Effect might pick Action mode first since it's at the top.

If people can't read the descriptions of the game mode, they probably won't want to read dialogue options either. Thus Action mode is perfect for them!

[Tazzmission]

EJ107 wrote...

To all the people saying it's "additional" content, it's not. Taking out a feature of the game and calling it a "mode" adds nothing to the game- it just lets you choose to have less content. 

While I know everybody is entitled to their opinions and some people will enjoy the mode I do share the OP's concerns. Several people will probably just choose "action mode" without really understanding what it is, just becuase it sounds cooler and is the first option in the list.

While it probably is just alphabetical order, a nagging voice in the back of my head is saying that action mode comes first becuase Bioware are trying to aim for that market above the others. That might just be an overly cynical look at it though. 

or you know instead of just assuming what you do maybe wait till you play the demo tuesday 

im as excited as everyone else but seriously people need to keep the whole omg they scrwed something up or omg a mode is taking away from the story.


just be patient play the demo tuesday than give your thoughts. its as easy as that

[AlanC9]

Wulfram wrote...

I do think that with the name - which really sounds more positive than "RPG" .

It's amazing how many RPG fans think that everyone hates the genre.

Modifié par AlanC9, 10 février 2012 - 06:09 .

[Tazzmission]

The_mango55 wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

The only problem I have is that if someone new to Mass Effect might pick Action mode first since it's at the top.

If people can't read the descriptions of the game mode, they probably won't want to read dialogue options either. Thus Action mode is perfect for them!

exactly! and i just love how people dont take the time to actually read whats in the photos because they detail what mode is what wich isnt to hard to understand.

[GuardianAngel470]

neenee77 wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Prismvg wrote...

It's always baffling to me how additional (and optional at the same time) content upsets players.

i know right? seriously we are all spoiled but geez some of the stuff i see on here is pretty disgusting when it comes to comments and complaints.

^^^^^^ that was awesome!!!

I always think its important to maintain just little perspective.

As for the topic, I see no problem with it. I think it's an excellent compromise. Bioware has an established fanbase that in many cases goes all the way back to Baldur's Gate (I'm not one of them BTW) and they did aggravate many of them by taking out so many staples of classic dice based RPGs in ME2.

However, they did it for a very good reason; it is more profitable in today's industry. I can't fault them for that at all.

So, I see it this way: Bioware needed to shift to more action to maximize its success BUT it also really wanted to give its longtime fans what they wanted. Shooter fans, arguably the largest demographic in the current consumer base, weren't familiar with RPGs. Long time turn based, stat based, classic RPG element fans in many cases don't really enjoy or know how to play shooters (they go hand in hand to an extent).

By going with this system, they satisfy both groups (potentially) without alienating either. I think its actually a great, and very ambitious, idea.

[Gill Kaiser]

I have no problem with the options, but I really think that Roleplaying should be the first, default option.