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I'm stunned at these facial animations I'm seeing in the demo and not in a good way


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AlphaJarmel

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Balek-Vriege wrote...

Ok I just watched both videos over about 30 mintues.  After watching the dialogue of maleshep/female videos interchangingly, most of the dialogue seems to be in synch. Actually all of it seems to be. The problem seems to be more about the animation at some parts in said dialogue. The most clear mistake is the line everyone is linking to is when the player picks "We should've prepared more." and says "You know we're not ready if it is them, not by a long shot." What's underlined is combined into one continuous lip animation which doesn't look right. It happens in both maleshep and femshep playthroughs, but to a lesser extent with femshep animations. Everything else (that you can see since the camera is moving so fast most of the time) has the right timing, animation and synching.  When you follow the link and are looking for an error, you come across it easily.  When you watch the videos over and over or are not looking for it you don't see it as much.

Another problem is the closeups of maleshep and Anderson having their mouths "twitch" a bit at the sides and don't prenouciate much in long dialogue. Again the more I watch though the less I notice it.  My brain is beginning to play tricks on me.

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So I've been replaying this intro for the upteempth and trying to isolate what exactly is wrong with the facial segments and it seems I really can't.  What I mean is that there seems to be a bunch of minor issues that add up. The facial animations are obviously not very expressive in many scenes but it's not just that.   Lip syncing seems to be slightly off in a few sequences that hallway was a particular example.  I'm watching the sequence on my Xbox and it seems like one of the issues is the frame rate is jumpy and it seems to screw up the lip syncing. Another is the scene both during and after you try to talk the kid out of the vent.  

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www.youtube.com/watch

they're all kinda equally awful.

One short sassy. The pull backs looks like she's hiding sum ammo in hair somewhere...I...

And the bobs. my shep isn't a bob girl. she's short and sassy. why did they f*ck w/ it?

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rapscallioness wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

they're all kinda equally awful.

One short sassy. The pull backs looks like she's hiding sum ammo in hair somewhere...I...

And the bobs. my shep isn't a bob girl. she's short and sassy. why did they f*ck w/ it?

Well since we have no idea how a femshep is affected via direct importing, besides facecode which is not fully accurate, I wouldn't jump ship just yet.

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@ Alpha

You think it might play differently on a PC? With more computing power.

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I watched a few videos of demo footage on YouTube, and the only facial animations I had were Anderson's early lines. His face seems to be a fairly hi-res texture, and maybe that's throwing things off for me, but especially leading up to and talking to the committee, his face didn't animate well. Hardly moved except for his mouth, and that didn't really match up to what he was saying except in the most basic sense. However, everyone else in the videos was as good or better than ME1/ME2, and even Anderson's facial/mouth animations seemed better by the end of the video.

And I don't think it's my brain getting used to it either, because I watched like 3 vids, and each time, the early lines from Anderson looked clunky, animation-wise.

But, it's a minor gripe, 'cause it did seem to look better later, and everyone else was just fine, in my opinion.

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rapscallioness wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

they're all kinda equally awful.

One short sassy. The pull backs looks like she's hiding sum ammo in hair somewhere...I...

And the bobs. my shep isn't a bob girl. she's short and sassy. why did they f*ck w/ it?


I was really looking forward to that short hair from the FemShep wote.Image IPB

Modifié par BobTheAndroid, 11 février 2012 - 05:57 .


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AlphaJarmel

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Ajosraa wrote...

@ Alpha

You think it might play differently on a PC? With more computing power.


I have absolutely no clue.  It's even possible it's an old build issue that they fixed in the meantime.

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Genshie

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Wait can't pc users just mod the living crap out of the characters in ME3? Or is that not allowed or possible? I imagine with time there will be tons of new mods for ME3 on pc. So I don't really understand the complaints of those who are getting it on the pc if you can just eventually mod it.

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rapscallioness wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

they're all kinda equally awful.

One short sassy. The pull backs looks like she's hiding sum ammo in hair somewhere...I...

And the bobs. my shep isn't a bob girl. she's short and sassy. why did they f*ck w/ it?


That's actually the first time I've been disappointed with what Biowares put out for ME3. Some of those hairstyles are just laughable. A few are passable, and thank god my femshep's hairstyle still looks pretty much the same.