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[AgitatedLemon]

jreezy wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Neither of them are terribly important to the story, yet they take precedence over characters that ARE, in ME3.

*Cough* Miranda *Cough*

Miranda more important than Tali? Hmm....

In ME2 & its associated content? By lightyears. In ME3? Still probably so. The only significance Tali has had in the past was having dirt on Saren, but even then, she didn't need to be recruited. 

Tali, in ME1 and ME2, has been nothing but a quarian wikipedia. She has very little backstory about herself. Most of the stuff we know about Tali's personal history is told by other quarians. She makes the in-game codex itself quite redundant. Miranda-

-Has backstory (Kind of important for character development)
-Is associated with Cerberus (Y'know, the antagonists)
-Brought Shepard back to life (Kind of a big deal)
-Has arguably the most plot-relevant personal content in ME3

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 10 février 2012 - 11:41 .

[freejaffanation]

Druss99 wrote...

Is this thread actually trying to compete with the "Cabin Loving" thread for the title of pathetic thread of the week?

No, that is just MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 being who he is. He does this to every thread he is in.

[KateKane]

Druss99 wrote...

Is this thread actually trying to compete with the "Cabin Loving" thread for the title of pathetic thread of the week?

Are copy/pasted designs somehow not a legitimate complaint?
How about characters fighting in a space war wearing spandex?

[alex90c]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

alex90c wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

This is not fair. There is no justice out of this.

hahahahaha

i take it you're annoyed miranda didn't have a new outfit

NOT JUST THAT! The fact that she only has a cameo appearance. I hate BioWare for screwing us over. They're ****ing sadists bastards!

you overreact so much, phahahahahahaha

"sadists"

yeah, w/e man 

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

BioWare screwed us over. Giving Characters Like Miri with nothing, leaving us with nothing.

[ODST 3]

AgitatedLemon wrote...
That would involve a complete re-write of her arc.

On the incredibly slim chance that it happened, Bioware is officially my favorite developer again.

Who's the alternative to Bioware? Even if they do disappoint you sometimes.

I don't understand why we needed Vega and Allers when they could have added at least one cool squaddie from ME 2 to the squad instead. Vega is worthless for anything but Reaper fodder.

Modifié par ODST 3, 10 février 2012 - 11:45 .

[FeralEwok]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

alex90c wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

This is not fair. There is no justice out of this.

hahahahaha

i take it you're annoyed miranda didn't have a new outfit

NOT JUST THAT! The fact that she only has a cameo appearance. I hate BioWare for screwing us over. They're ****ing sadists bastards!

You should really stick it to Bioware by not playing ME3 or posting on here anymore.

That will show them!

[BatmanPWNS]

Alex Arterius wrote...

jreezy wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Neither of them are terribly important to the story, yet they take precedence over characters that ARE, in ME3.

*Cough* Miranda *Cough*

Miranda more important than Tali? Hmm....

Tali hasn't contributed next to nothing in both games, minus the Saren evidence in the first.

Miranda contributed 10x more in one single game.

And this is coming from some on who isn't massive afns of either characters...

Actually without Tali we would have no evidence. Which meant Shepard would have had no way to get spectre status since he was only given Spectre Status so he can hunt Saren. Which means everyone in the galaxy would have all died and ME1 would have never happened.

All Miranda did was help rebuild Shep (Which could have been done by anyone since TIM was the mastermind and Miri was just his employee) and lead the team.

10x? I don't think so. BTW, I am not insulting Miri but saying she was 10x is a huge lie.

And lastly, come at me, bro!

[AgitatedLemon]

ODST 3 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
That would involve a complete re-write of her arc.

On the incredibly slim chance that it happened, Bioware is officially my favorite developer again.

Who's the alternative to Bioware? Even if they do disappoint you sometimes.

Probably VALVe.

[Alex Arterius]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Alex Arterius wrote...

jreezy wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Neither of them are terribly important to the story, yet they take precedence over characters that ARE, in ME3.

*Cough* Miranda *Cough*

Miranda more important than Tali? Hmm....

Tali hasn't contributed next to nothing in both games, minus the Saren evidence in the first.

Miranda contributed 10x more in one single game.

And this is coming from some on who isn't massive afns of either characters...

Actually without Tali we would have no evidence. Which meant Shepard would have had no way to get spectre status since he was only given Spectre Status so he can hunt Saren. Which means everyone in the galaxy would have all died and ME1 would have never happened.

All Miranda did was help rebuild Shep (Which could have been done by anyone since TIM was the mastermind and Miri was just his employee) and lead the team.

10x? I don't think so. BTW, I am not insulting Miri but saying she was 10x is a huge lie.

And lastly, come at me, bro!

Okay, I will "come at you"

Garrus could have found the evidence and the exact same outcome would have been achieved with or without Tali. From this point onwards in the game Tali is redundant.

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Think about it, BioWare really did screw us over, and they were damn good with it too. They allowed us too get all excited for nearly too years, then they throw it back in your face by giving us what we hoped for a looonng time.

[freejaffanation]

Tali was one lead in an investigation. A dead end on one lead rarely ends in a closed case. It just means that other leads are investigated. What Saren had done on Eden Prime was incredibly sloppy which is why he opted for it's detonation. He would have been discovered eventually.

[ShadowSplicer]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

SNascimento wrote...

A shame they not even bother giving her a new outfit.

You have no idea how people said the same thing in the Miranda thread.

Hmm... I'm thinking that she still agrees with the old Cerberus' ideals and likely wants to take control of it. Or at least, that's what I'm hoping. She and the Illusive Man definitely have some unfinished business together.

[Haron50]

is possible change the old outfit for a new outfit in the people whit a save imported?(remember the dlc pack alternate)

[HiddenKING]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Alex Arterius wrote...

jreezy wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Neither of them are terribly important to the story, yet they take precedence over characters that ARE, in ME3.

*Cough* Miranda *Cough*

Miranda more important than Tali? Hmm....

Tali hasn't contributed next to nothing in both games, minus the Saren evidence in the first.

Miranda contributed 10x more in one single game.

And this is coming from some on who isn't massive afns of either characters...

Actually without Tali we would have no evidence. Which meant Shepard would have had no way to get spectre status since he was only given Spectre Status so he can hunt Saren. Which means everyone in the galaxy would have all died and ME1 would have never happened.

All Miranda did was help rebuild Shep (Which could have been done by anyone since TIM was the mastermind and Miri was just his employee) and lead the team.

10x? I don't think so. BTW, I am not insulting Miri but saying she was 10x is a huge lie.

And lastly, come at me, bro!

I agree.

I'd honestly give Wilson more credit over Shepard's ressurection than Miranda. He was the Chief Medical Officer of the Lazarus Project. While he reported to Miranda, who in turn reported to The Illusive Man, she oversaw Cerberus' resources. Which is an administrative job, that anyone could have done.

[BatmanPWNS]

Alex Arterius wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Alex Arterius wrote...

jreezy wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

Neither of them are terribly important to the story, yet they take precedence over characters that ARE, in ME3.

*Cough* Miranda *Cough*

Miranda more important than Tali? Hmm....

Tali hasn't contributed next to nothing in both games, minus the Saren evidence in the first.

Miranda contributed 10x more in one single game.

And this is coming from some on who isn't massive afns of either characters...

Actually without Tali we would have no evidence. Which meant Shepard would have had no way to get spectre status since he was only given Spectre Status so he can hunt Saren. Which means everyone in the galaxy would have all died and ME1 would have never happened.

All Miranda did was help rebuild Shep (Which could have been done by anyone since TIM was the mastermind and Miri was just his employee) and lead the team.

10x? I don't think so. BTW, I am not insulting Miri but saying she was 10x is a huge lie.

And lastly, come at me, bro!

Okay, I will "come at you"

Garrus could have found the evidence and the exact same outcome would have been achieved with or without Tali. From this point onwards in the game Tali is redundant.

Actually Garrus had a "lead" and that lead was a Quarian (which was Tali). Plus Tali maybe redundant after the evidence but apart from Miranda resurrecting Shep (which anyone could have done) and being second-in charge for the suicide mission (which Garrus and Jacob can do as well), she didn't do much either.

[MisterJB]

HiddenKING wrote...
I agree.

I'd honestly give Wilson more credit over Shepard's ressurection than Miranda. He was the Chief Medical Officer of the Lazarus Project. While he reported to Miranda, who in turn reported to The Illusive Man, she oversaw Cerberus' resources. Which is an administrative job, that anyone could have done.

That's speculation. Miranda knew enough to notice when his readings were wrong.

Also, there are spoilers in the leak that specifically claim that everyone who tried to bring Shepard back failed until they decided to put Miranda on the job.

[Juha81FIN]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Think about it, BioWare really did screw us over, and they were damn good with it too. They allowed us too get all excited for nearly too years, then they throw it back in your face by giving us what we hoped for a looonng time.

Miri wouldn't let herself to become too emotionally touched with these things .

[AgitatedLemon]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Actually Garrus had a "lead" and that lead was a Quarian (which was Tali). Plus Tali maybe redundant after the evidence but apart from Miranda resurrecting Shep (which anyone could have done) and being second-in charge for the suicide mission (which Garrus and Jacob can do as well), she didn't do much either.

Garrus can't do it, since you need to recruit him, plus it's a Cerberus operation and Garrus is a turian. Jacob can't really do it either, he isn't a thinker, he's a soldier. 

Miranda does more than just rez Shepard.

She reports directly to TIM, and she and Shepard are the only people who have met him face to face (well, technically Shepard meets him face to hologram) and have any idea of his background. She has more dirt on the inner workings of Cerberus than anyone. Her backstory is an important factor too, since her father was once a large supporter of TIM and Cerberus (This eventually comes into play later in ME3, but that's major spoilers). She's also the last living person who knows how Lazarus works, which again, is kind of a big deal.

edit: Also what MisterJB said.

Modifié par AgitatedLemon, 11 février 2012 - 12:05 .

[BioFan (Official)]

Ohei wrote...

Nexis7 wrote...

Ohei wrote...

Yeah. Pretty cool fragment of a second.

Now, don't hate me, but... is there any particular reason as to why she still wears her ME2 jumpsuit aside from... well, you know, BioWare could not focus on giving her a slightly redesigned outfit?

And no, at this point, highly doubt it's placeholder.

0mg how c4n you say thst miri is da bst owtfit in da game blad ef u dnt lyk it y play LOLOLOL wat a tr0ll!!!1111
and wats dat purple ting in ur avatar looks GEY LOLOLOLOL

...............

I officially love you

[ODST 3]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ODST 3 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...
That would involve a complete re-write of her arc.

On the incredibly slim chance that it happened, Bioware is officially my favorite developer again.

Who's the alternative to Bioware? Even if they do disappoint you sometimes.

Probably VALVe.

Yeah... Half Life 3 looks amazing. Oh wait...

[enayasoul]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

... What?

Why would they need to create a unique model? The have the models from ME2. Isn't this whole thread about the fact that the model appears to be the same?

You said that her model could just be placeholder. It almost certainly isn't, since the game is letss than 5 weeks from release.

You then said they could just be reusing the ME2 model, which may or may not be the case. If it is, then there are some glaring differences in her "default" appearance in both games.

Didn't they say they worked on fleshing out the model so that woman act and walk like a female?

For example:
Instead of femshep sitting down in front of Miranda's desk with her legs wide open wearing Kasumi's dress she bought Femshep?  I mean really!!! Women don't sit like that!  

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Juha81FIN wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Think about it, BioWare really did screw us over, and they were damn good with it too. They allowed us too get all excited for nearly too years, then they throw it back in your face by giving us what we hoped for a looonng time.

Miri wouldn't let herself to become too emotionally touched with these things .

No matter what you or BioWare says, there is NO logical reason not to put enough effort in Miranda and her Character in ME3. Outfit, Biotics, hair, screentime, etc.