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[CptData]

double02 wrote...

@CptData
Indeed she does, very much so.

Oh, call me crazy, but the demo is out in about 4 days!

Too bad we can't import Shepard. I really would like to see the differences between romanced Ashley and a non-romanced one.

Okay, will take the short end of the stick and go through that demo without Ashley as LI, but hey, at least I don't have to try it in full!ME3

[Elvis_Mazur]

I still don't like her appearance. It just seems to me that long hair and the other stuff we have seen don't fit with her facial structures.

Modifié par PetrySilva, 11 février 2012 - 02:15 .

[puppy maclove]

Is "little" things like this improvement (IMO) for example, that is making me feel much more positive and excited about ME3. I didn't have much hope for a long while after DA2 and I don't want to talk too soon but I think I'm gonna enjoy ME3.

Notice how the marketing drum for ME3 has not been beaten as loudly or in the same fashion as was the case with DA2? I think that's a good thing?

[TheRevanchist]

Han Shot First wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

The color of the armor didn't really matter...Camo seems to be pretty much pointless in ME with Kinetic Barriers and such now. At least thats what I interpret...

Even with shields and armor you'd still want a color scheme that blends in with your enviroment. The enemy can't shoot what they can't see, and camo would just be an extra layer of protection.

But even if you ignore the impracticality of a white and pink armor scheme, you still can't ignore the fact that it breaks uniformity. Ash is the only Marine with Phoenix armor. Even during her distress call you can see other Marines from her unit in the background, and they all wearing military green. She was out of uniform, and people that complain about her ME3 outfit while suspending disbelief on the Phoenix armor, are applying a double standard.

Except SOMEONE is going to be wearing white and pink Phoenix armor in the opening of ME2...weather it be Liara, Ashley OR Kaiden. Besides I recall someone in Revelation wearing the same armor. And seem to recall after 40+ playthroughs that not everyone was wearing green armor...they were all just dark colors. Besides i could say the same for groups like Eclipse that wear bright yellow armor...sure their uniform...but they are hardly "camo". Same goes for Zaeed...yellow and white. Blue Suns...their bright blue armor hardly blends with anything. Capitan Kirrahe...white and black with red stripes. Pretty much the entire Cerberus army...white...Liara...white and blue..Saren...white with tubes...Mordin Solus...wears white with red stripes....Grunt...wears white...Shadow Broker...a three piece suit....srsly are you going to argue this? She is hardly the only person who wears white armor...

[AlectoIra]

I agree she was kinda a Tomboy sort of thing in ME I think the look hair doesn't suit her face or her personality.

[Revan312]

I chock her hair up to the fact that Ash knows about the reapers and figures "Hey, might as well let down my hair for the end of the world..."

[A.N.A.N]

seirhart wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

seirhart wrote...

This was my number one problem with Ashley, she is a soldier and as a soldier you don't wear an armor with a color that says "look at me, i'm right here. So why don't you shoot me plz"

Shepard wears a great big read stripe on his arm.  Camouflage is not something people in mass effect care about.

(It bugs me a bit, but it's a setting wide aesthetic, not just limited to Ashley)

Shepards and the others camo didn't bother me but on the other end Ashley's bothered me completely, when I saw her for the first time in the cutscene my first reaction is wth is wrong with her using pink on her armor. 

Camo has no place in a world with targetting computers and powered armour. Can't hide from the red triangles (ME1)

[Hyrist]

People change?

I dunno what the protest is about the change in appearance. People try new looks all the time. Jumping into the Specters probably meant she had to be a touch more diplomatic than she wanted to be (at least in appearance.) And if she romanced Sheploo and realized he was still alive, maybe she did it to catch his attention a bit.

Either way, Ashe does not need to justify her appearance changes to you. If she wanted to let her hair down, she darn well is going to let her hair down.

[Hillbillyshep]

Well, i gotta admit it, no matter how much i don´t like her, she does look good.
But yeah, i´m still sticking wih my Miri.

[jackyboy666]

They fixed her eyes! She actually looks pretty whammy if you ask me!

[Olive Oomph]

I just want to hear her call me "Ma'am!" again!

But, yeah, great new screenshots! 

[Aaleel]

I think they did a good job on the face and the hair, but I just don't like the outfit.  She looks like an action figure.  Looks like you can do a full 360 with the arms and pull them off

[Justicar]

Is it weird that she looks hot? 0_0

I don't even like Ashley. Well, I hate her, but her character is amazing.

[DJBare]

kylecouch wrote...

Or maybe what hes trying to politely say is...too much of the fanbase is basiclly nothing but horny teenagers who don't seem to appriciate subtle beauty, or beauty of personality...since many seem to just think shes a total b****...and now that shes "Hot" their totaly willing to forgive her

This I definitely agree with, gamers are a fickle bunch.

[Halfdan The Menace]

Ashley's design change has been met with mixed reactions. Ashley now looks like a college cheerleader but she was good eye candy though. She's now a prettier person that I loathe more than any villain in the series thus far yeah? Remind me of Jennifer Lopez.

Suddenly I am very happy I left Alenko to die on Virmire....

[TheRevanchist]

DAMNIT! CALL ROSEWELL! SUBJECT 37 ESCAPED!

[Iakus]

royceclemens wrote...

iakus wrote...
It was also more of a "professional soldier" look.  Capable, functional, a "mature" look, one might say.  Style and sexiness, while there, we're a (rightfully ) secondary concern 

The medium armor in ME1 is every bit as form-fitting as Ashley's casual outfit in ME3.  That's the medium armor.  Don't get me started on the light version.  And I haven't heard an eighth of the complaints about that as there are now.  People are literally crying "prostitute" over a woman who's decided to put on more clothes.

Not to mention that the chesticle sag on her ME1 casual outfit made it abundantly clear that she wasn't wearing a bra.  Which is a segue into her ME3 bustline, which say less "I GOTS BIGGER BEWBZ!!!" and more "I'm actually supported by an underwire this time."

I've tried to find a more diplomatic word than "stupid" for this whole argument but I just can't find it.  That's honestly what it is, cut with concern-trolling and the queasy anti-feminism that comes part and parcel with a board full of male nerds and how pretty women make them feel.  It's not that Ashley looks like a prostitute; it's that she looks like the girl who ignored us in high school.

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I don't hate and detest women to the point that I make claims against their virtue and deem them fit to die in a nuclear explosion solely because they decide to wear their hair down and apply blush.

I guess that makes me weird.

EDIT: Fixed spelling.

Others have called Ash a prostitute for her new outfit, but I never have.  Ever.  Bad as her outfit is it still falls far short of Miranda, Samara, or Jack's outfits in ME2.

But her outfit is designed to be "stylish" and "give her sex appeal" it was a stated goal of Bioware to do this.  I found this to be a terribly supercial concept that can only hurt the character.  Not to mention it doesn't really show a high opinion of Mass Effect fans.  Ash is an Alliance soldier.  Her outfit should reflect that.

Have you seen the screenshots of Kaidan's "casual outfit"  It's all over the Kaidan thread.  It's quite similar to that worn by Shepard (male or female) which is itself not unlike the Normandy outfits worn by Ash, Kaidan, Shepard, and Joker in ME1.  

So why does Kaidan get the professional-looking functional outfit and Ash gets the "stylish" getup?  Why does her new look have to emphasize "I'm a beautiful woman" over "I'm an Alliance officer"?  I have nothing against beautiful women at all.  But isn't this a game about a galactic war?  That's what Bioware keeps telling us.  SO what's with the eye candy?

Modifié par iakus, 11 février 2012 - 04:38 .

[Volus Warlord]

Gimme a minute to make some offensive Ash banners.

[LaurenShepard-N7]

I think she might have been a racist.
DOESN'T MATTER, HAD SEX.

[TheRevanchist]

iakus wrote...

royceclemens wrote...

iakus wrote...
It was also more of a "professional soldier" look.  Capable, functional, a "mature" look, one might say.  Style and sexiness, while there, we're a (rightfully ) secondary concern 

The medium armor in ME1 is every bit as form-fitting as Ashley's casual outfit in ME3.  That's the medium armor.  Don't get me started on the light version.  And I haven't heard an eighth of the complaints about that as there are now.  People are literally crying "prostitute" over a woman who's decided to put on more clothes.

Not to mention that the chesticle sag on her ME1 casual outfit made it abundantly clear that she wasn't wearing a bra.  Which is a segue into her ME3 bustline, which say less "I GOTS BIGGER BEWBZ!!!" and more "I'm actually supported by an underwire this time."

I've tried to find a more diplomatic word than "stupid" for this whole argument but I just can't find it.  That's honestly what it is, cut with concern-trolling and the queasy anti-feminism that comes part and parcel with a board full of male nerds and how pretty women make them feel.  It's not that Ashley looks like a prostitute; it's that she looks like the girl who ignored us in high school.

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I don't hate and detest women to the point that I make claims against their virtue and deem them fit to die in a nuclear explosion solely because they decide to wear their hair down and apply blush.

I guess that makes me weird.

EDIT: Fixed spelling.

Others have called Ash a prostitute for her new outfit, but I never have.  Ever.  Bad as her outfit is it still falls far short of Miranda, Samara, or Jack's outfits in ME2.

But her outfit is designed to be "stylish" and "give her sex appeal" it was a stated goal of Bioware to do this.  I found this to be a terribly supercial concept that can only hurt the character.  Not to mention it doesn't really show a high opinion of Mass Effect fans.  Ash is an Alliance soldier.  Her outfit should reflect that.

Have you seen the screenshots of Kaidan's "casual outfit"  It's all over the Kaidan thread.  It's quite similar to that worn by Shepard (male or female) which is itself not unlike the Normandy outfits worn by Ash, Kaidan, Shepard, and Joker in ME1.  

So why does Kaidan get the professional-looking functional outfit and Ash gets the "stylish" getup?  Why does her new look have to emphasize "I'm a beautiful woman" over "I'm an Alliance officer"?  I have nothing against beautiful women at all.  But isn't this a game about a galactic war?  That's what Bioware keeps telling us.  SO what's with the eye candy?

Bravo sir....bravo to the max...

[Thoth_Amon]

She looks like a ladyboy I saw in Thailand.

[XavierHollywood]

AlectoIra wrote...

I agree she was kinda a Tomboy sort of thing in ME I think the look hair doesn't suit her face or her personality.

How can we say the hair dosent suit her personality?  All she did was take it out of her bun.  If Ashley didnt think the hair fit her, she wouldnt have even grown it to that length in ME1.  

My girlfriend has long hair and normally has it up, when she takes it down tho I dont automatically shout at her saying "you've changed as a person!!!  Your hair no longer reflects your personality!!!  Relationship cancelled!!"

and call me crazy but I do vaguely remember Ash making a comment about dancing on a table or something with a miniskirt on...I know i butchered the exact quote but it was something along those lines.

People have many sides to their personality.  People are dynamic. And as crazy as it sounds, people have multiple outfits in their wardrobe <_<   Shes still the same Ashley that we have always known!  Seeing her in a new outfit with her hair not in a bun has not magically made her into something she is not.  This is our first time seeing her in a more lax setting.  Give the woman a little credit good grief.

Modifié par XavierHollywood, 11 février 2012 - 05:28 .

[Ohei]

CrustyBot wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...
"He" 
You know I'm a woman, right? 

Nope, you're a man in a wig like Ashley.

"And the dreams of hundreds of BSNers were dashed in a single moment. They never recovered from the revelation and swore their everlasting hatred for the Welsh..."

k, I lol'd.

[Volus Warlord]

Some nice banners to choose from.

[DaJe]

YayCookies wrote...

Are you all men because trust me if you had long hair and shot AT ALL you would know it is diificuly when your hair is down, I assume Ashley can wear a helmet in game and keep her hair out of her face but otherwise it is just crazy.

It is supposed to tell a great story in a realistic manner it would not have a women rifleman have her hair in her face.
AEven if you think it isn't supposed to be realistic think of why they had relistice hair styles in the first two game.

You mean in the first game.