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[G3rman]

Oldbones2 wrote...

In all honesty I thought Ash had a sort of reserved prettiness in ME1 and 2 that was very nice. But I don't care how she looks. First she gives me **** on Horizon, then she's all like I still love you. And now she pulls a 'I used to know him'. That **** will not fly.

Well one the ME3 demo you can't import your Shepard and so it doesn't assume any romance is involved, given her normal dialogue.  For all we know it could be different facial expressions and dialogue for romanced.

Also you aren't considering Ashley's side about what happened to her the two years Shep has been dead.  If you are that shallow not to listen to her then I suppose you got what you deserved.

[ODST 3]

Agreed, Ash looks fantastic. I was a bit worrieb when I saw the beta but she's still the number 1 space princess.

[TheRevanchist]

Jynthor wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...

V-rex wrote...
Also by the way anyone saying 'oh it's not a big deal', it's a HUGE deal. I'm amazed that anyone could ever actually defend this.

Unless the game shoves her ass into your face like Miranda in ME2, then no, it's not a huge deal.

I agree. It's ridiculous in a way, but not something we haven't seen before in Mass Effect.

It may be something we've seen before...but it's not something that fits the character....thats kinda the point.

[Xarathox]

kylecouch wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

^ I think that rests my case...

Well, obviously someone bought her dinner for her to wear a tinfoil skirt and thigh-high boots.

No...Bioware just ret-coned that dialogue outta exsistence I think.

"Can't see her in a skirt anyhow"

"Damn straight you can't"

yea...I think they totaly ignored that...

If you remember, Ash stumbled over that line. Indicating she was "trying" to keep up her tomboy image.

[seirhart]

I prefer this new improved ashley way before the old version, especially with the long hair that isn't tied in a knot

[TheRevanchist]

Xarathox wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

^ I think that rests my case...

Well, obviously someone bought her dinner for her to wear a tinfoil skirt and thigh-high boots.

No...Bioware just ret-coned that dialogue outta exsistence I think.

"Can't see her in a skirt anyhow"

"Damn straight you can't"

yea...I think they totaly ignored that...

If you remember, Ash stumbled over that line. Indicating she was "trying" to keep up her tomboy image.

yes I remember...after all I've played the game over 40 times...But still...I just don't see her wearing stuff like this...make up and such...it just does not seem like her.

[Adugan]

If I romance Miranda in ME2 and Ash in ME1, they are going to have a catfight over who has dat mass. Will be interesting to see.

[pfhorlorn]

kylecouch wrote...

It may be something we've seen before...but it's not something that fits the character....thats kinda the point.

Blue pants and a long tunic don't fit Ashley? Did she ever imply or explicitly state that she'd never wear blue pants, thighhigh boots, and a longer-than-typical tunic? If so, I'd like you to show me where she said that. Reminds me of the first time my friend saw me in a skirt. "I thought you didn't like skirts." What, because I wear skinny jeans most of the time? How does that discount the possibility of me liking skirts?

(I'm not trying to say that she's wearing a skirt; it's not a skirt, just long torso attire)

Didn't bother me even when she had white pants. I'm pretty apathetic in regards to most things, however.

kylecouch wrote...

yes I remember...after all I've played the game over 40 times...But still...I just don't see her wearing stuff like this...make up and such...it just does not seem like her.

How does whether or not Ashley wears makeup relate whatsoever to her character, by the way? You can be a roughandtumbler and still do up your face.

Modifié par koopaonfire, 11 février 2012 - 03:07 .

[G3rman]

Its not worth arguing over Xara, they are entrenched in what they see is Ashley's personality from how she was portrayed in ME1. It's their right to be angry over the change in look and personality to accompany that look.

However, I like to believe Ash in ME1 only showed her military-mode as I like to call it and never showed her in a more relaxed or civilian attire and setting. This new look represents her character going in a new unique direction and fleshing out the sides of her that aren't all military-esque and regulation.

[DJBare]

kylecouch wrote...
yes I remember...after all I've played the game over 40 times...But still...I just don't see her wearing stuff like this...make up and such...it just does not seem like her.

I like to think Shepard's influence caused her to let her hair down, both literaly and metaphorically.

[Adugan]

DJBare wrote...
I like to think Shepard's influence caused her to let her hair down, both literaly and metaphorically.

I know what you mean.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

At first I was like "Woooooooooah" /Keanu Reeves

But then I was like "whatever I still prefer Miri".

[XavierHollywood]

bravo Bioware, Just Bravo. Ive not had a single ill thing to say about ME3. Ive always had complete and total faith in the quality of the product your guys are turning out. The hard work Casey and the rest of the team have done to please us, the fans, should be commended by us all.

The way some of you use such demeaning terms for Ashley is just unbelievable. I look at her in the demo and I see NOTHING provocative or overly sexy about her at all. How people can calling her ****ty or a prostitute or whatever is completely beyond me. Shes covered head to toe with a VERY slight bit of her chest showing. Hanging out on the BSN just further proves to me that a staggering amount of people were raised in a puritan manner. I really cannot fathom how else they could say Ashley's look is overly sexed up otherwise.

But anyway, I digress. Again, AMAZING job to all the guys working on ME3. It might not mean much coming from me, just one of the many millions of fans you have globally, but I am honored to have experienced this series and proud of everything you have achieved.

[Atakuma]

Obvakhi wrote...

V-rex wrote...
Also by the way anyone saying 'oh it's not a big deal', it's a HUGE deal. I'm amazed that anyone could ever actually defend this.

Unless the game shoves her ass into your face like Miranda in ME2, then no, it's not a huge deal.

It certainly wasn't a huge deal, but it was rather tasteless and disrespectful to the character. Although it's often blown way out of proportion it's still a legitimate gripe IMO.

[Adugan]

Xavier, realistic body armor wouldnt have a boob window for enemies to target. A shot there would insta-kill anyone that isnt Krogan. The butt window draws unnecessary attention to her inflated behind.

[Pockles]

I have no further complaints about Ashley's appearance at all.

[Complistic]

lol are people still complaining? lol never change BSN.

[V-rex]

Obvakhi wrote...

V-rex wrote...
Also by the way anyone saying 'oh it's not a big deal', it's a HUGE deal. I'm amazed that anyone could ever actually defend this.

Unless the game shoves her ass into your face like Miranda in ME2, then no, it's not a huge deal.

Yeah and I see no reason to believe, given how lovingly sculpted it is and how much emphasis they put on it, and factoring in their track record that they wouldn't do just that.

That said I'm over it, the redesign is good as is her new armor. Bioware have finally remembered how to make a female character sexy without robbing her of dignity. So I'm ready to forgive Bioware for doing it, not quite ready to forget about it though.

Modifié par V-rex, 11 février 2012 - 03:14 .

[Han Shot First]

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kylecouch wrote...
yes I remember...after all I've played the game over 40 times...But still...I just don't see her wearing stuff like this...make up and such...it just does not seem like her.

I never quite understood this argument against Ashley having her hair in anything but a bun. Some people seem to think that people who are in the military look like they are in the military, 100% of the time. The reality isn't quite like that.

Ashley had her hair in a bun in Mass Effect 1 because she was an Alliance Marine on deployment with the SSV Normandy. Her hair was in a bun because that was probably the regulation for female Marines when in uniform, just as it is with females serving in the US Marines. When Ashley was assigned to Eden Prime and she had liberty (days off from work), she would have no doubt have been going out in the town in regular civilian clothing and with her hair down. We just don't see her like that in Mass Effect 1, because we always see her in an 'on duty' context.

[Xarathox]

kylecouch wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

^ I think that rests my case...

Well, obviously someone bought her dinner for her to wear a tinfoil skirt and thigh-high boots.

No...Bioware just ret-coned that dialogue outta exsistence I think.

"Can't see her in a skirt anyhow"

"Damn straight you can't"

yea...I think they totaly ignored that...

If you remember, Ash stumbled over that line. Indicating she was "trying" to keep up her tomboy image.

yes I remember...after all I've played the game over 40 times...But still...I just don't see her wearing stuff like this...make up and such...it just does not seem like her.

There are times where going butch/tomboy just isn't the best option for a woman in certain situations. Like when meeting high level officials.

Believe me, I know I'm stretching that ideas credibility to the maximum in this instance, but it's either I just RP that or accept BioWares official "she needs moar sexeh" response. I prefer the former.

And it's certainly not uncommon for "tough chicks" to dress feminine. I know a few.

[TheRevanchist]

See this is exactly my point ANY critisim of this appearence AT ALL is totaly dismissed and disregarded. No matter what it is...any opinion that isn't "OMG I LOVE HER NEW LOOK" is attacked like a pack of Jackles... I'm rather tierd of it... god forbid anyone have a differing opinion...or interpret a character differently than you did.

[Complistic]

Han Shot First wrote...

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kylecouch wrote...
yes I remember...after all I've played the game over 40 times...But still...I just don't see her wearing stuff like this...make up and such...it just does not seem like her.

I never quite understood this argument against Ashley having her hair in anything but a bun. Some people seem to think that people who are in the military look like they are in the military, 100% of the time. The reality isn't quite like that.

Ashley had her hair in a bun in Mass Effect 1 because she was an Alliance Marine on deployment with the SSV Normandy. Her hair was in a bun because that was probably the regulation for female Marines when in uniform, just as it is with females serving in the US Marines. When Ashley was assigned to Eden Prime and she had liberty (days off from work), she would have no doubt have been going out in the town in regular civilian clothing and with her hair down. We just don't see her like that in Mass Effect 1, because we always see her in an 'on duty' context.

excuse me sir, but you're on the wrong forum for logic and reason. 

[nitefyre410]

koopaonfire wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

yes I remember...after all I've played the game over 40 times...But still...I just don't see her wearing stuff like this...make up and such...it just does not seem like her.

How does whether or not Ashley wears makeup relate whatsoever to her character, by the way? You can be a roughandtumbler and still do up your face.

 


^ QFT   

[Han Shot First]

kylecouch wrote...

See this is exactly my point ANY critisim of this appearence AT ALL is totaly dismissed and disregarded. No matter what it is...any opinion that isn't "OMG I LOVE HER NEW LOOK" is attacked like a pack of Jackles... I'm rather tierd of it... god forbid anyone have a differing opinion...or interpret a character differently than you did.

Was that directed at my response to you? Because I thought I was fairly civil. I disagree with you, but in no way did I 'attack' you or your viewpoint.

It is true however that if Ashley were to behave realistically (like Marines in the real world), when off duty she wouldn't be wearing a uniform or her hair in a bun. We only see in her in an on duty context.

excuse me sir, but you're on the wrong forum for logic and reason. 

Oh right, this is the BSN. I should have at least ended my post with PREORDER CANCELLED.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 11 février 2012 - 03:22 .

[G3rman]

Han Shot First wrote...
I never quite understood this argument against Ashley having her hair in anything but a bun. Some people seem to think that people who are in the military look like they are in the military, 100% of the time. The reality isn't quite like that.

Ashley had her hair in a bun in Mass Effect 1 because she was an Alliance Marine on deployment with the SSV Normandy. Her hair was in a bun because that was probably the regulation for female Marines when in uniform, just as it is with females serving in the US Marines. When Ashley was assigned to Eden Prime and she had liberty (days off from work), she would have no doubt have been going out in the town in regular civilian clothing and with her hair down. We just don't see her like that in Mass Effect 1, because we always see her in an 'on duty' context.

Nice way to sum it up, she was assigned to the Normandy during ME1 and that is why she appeared in military attire.  ME3 she isn't so limited and the fact is she is even higher ranked and that might give some leeway in how she is allowed to dress (in the fictional universe).

@Adugan
She doesn't wear that clothing into combat, she has armor.