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[Chromie]

Angus Cousland wrote...

Spare me your childhood stories. Your punishment wasn't broadcast in front of millions of people worldwide.  If you can't recognize this most obvious of points, then you and I have nothing more to say.

It's not obvious that is why noone seems to agree with you. Millions may have watched the video and I'm sure as hell the millions don't know the dad or daughter personally. She would be just as embarrassed as I was who the hell cares what some other person on a forum/youtube account really thinks? If you can't understand that then I have nothing more to say to you. 

[chunkyman]

Angus Cousland wrote...


Oh please. This wasn't even the world's business. A good parent can handle their children in private, without having to let the world know how much of a "bad ass" they are at parenting.

But no, he sets up a nice little filming location and records himself throwing an infantile temper tantrum over a petty insult, complete with destroying property, just like an angry toddler would.

Property he admittedly paid $130 for the previous day, by the way. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. That's really not a healthy way to vent anger, and definitely doesn't set a good example for your children.

Hey, you know what? I believe his daughter. Given this man's actions and demeanor during the video, I'm fully inclined to believe he treats his daughter like an indentured servant. He obviously has no tolerance for dissension, and not in a good way.

Perhaps he's the one who needed proper parenting when he was a kid.

Did you watch the video? He remained calm and composed throughout the video. You describe it like he was foaming at the mouth and yelling.

Hyperbole doesn't make your argument more convincing.

Modifié par chunkyman, 12 février 2012 - 06:20 .

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Angus Cousland wrote...

LOL. Respect should be earned, not freely given. And treating your children in such a cruel, oppressive manner will earn you no respect from them. Only fear and hatred.

It happens far too often. Parents who raised their kids with an iron fist, treating them like second-class citizens and showing them about as much love and care as a rabid wolf.

Then their kids grow up and hate their guts, and they have the audacity to wonder why. They earned every last drop of the resentment and disrespect they got.

Ringo12 wrote...

Really? Having my ass beat infront of my friends on parent teachers night when I was young is a whole lot worse. Frankly this is much more funnier and embarrassing but a good lesson.

http://www.ice-dotco...facebook-video/ 

Spare me your childhood stories. Your punishment wasn't broadcast in front of millions of people worldwide.  If you can't recognize this most obvious of points, then you and I have nothing more to say.

I think you should see a therapist, you are obviously projecting your own negativity and neglected childhood onto this situation. The iron fist method is arguably just as flawed as the hippie ****** method (I seriously couldn't think of a better way to describe it because people like to put a spin on it), the middleground is fine.

Also by relative standards, although what was done by the father was clearly a making an example of the girl was beyond what would be considered good parenting and not very logical, its still a hell of a lot better than what other people do. Making an example is the whole thing here, and its worked in that respect, many have seen it, and its stimulating discussion.

[slimgrin]

Well I'm all for disciplining children. Broadcasting it to the world is petty and unnecessary. I still think the guy's a redneck douche.


"Hooooboy I gits ma gun here an' Ima gonna blow that laptop clean away, yessirrreee. Tell that lil' b*tch I call ma kin, she aint no kin of mine an' all of Facebook's gonna know it...YESSSSIREE!!"

Modifié par slimgrin, 12 février 2012 - 06:31 .

[Chromie]

slimgrin wrote...

Well I'm all for disciplining children. Broadcasting it to the world is petty and unnecessary. I still think the guy's a redneck douche.

Yea I agree but Angus is taking this personally it seems to me.

[Pacifien]

I know you guys are busy with your agendas and stuff, but did anyone see that the story's been updated since the initial video and that the family has not collapsed in on itself in a fiery explosion of tears, betrayals, and teenage daughters gone wild?

[Chromie]

Pacifien wrote...

I know you guys are busy with your agendas and stuff, but did anyone see that the story's been updated since the initial video and that the family has not collapsed in on itself in a fiery explosion of tears, betrayals, and teenage daughters gone wild?

Lies because according to Angus he was pissed off and ready to attack his child.

[chunkyman]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

The iron fist method is arguably just as flawed as the hippie ****** method (I seriously couldn't think of a better way to describe it because people like to put a spin on it), the middleground is fine.

Also by relative standards, although what was done by the father was clearly a making an example of the girl was beyond what would be considered good parenting and not very logical, its still a hell of a lot better than what other people do. Making an example is the whole thing here, and its worked in that respect, many have seen it, and its stimulating discussion.

I think the hippy method is worse than the iron fist method. Every thief and spoiled brat I've known has been the product of either the hippy method or something simaler. Note that I'm not supporting the iron fisted method, it's just that I think the hippy method of little/no real discipline turns children into monsters.

I agree about the middleground. I think there is such a thing as too much discipline and rules, and if people parent that way their kids will grow resentful. Personally, I would rather be err on the side of a bit too strict, because I've seen what a lack of discipline does to people.

For the guy in the video, I think what he did was a little harsh. It was an effective way to teach a lesson, but I think he could have shot a less valuable item instead of the very expenisve laptop. He also should have explained that he did this because he loves his daughter and wants her to grow up to be a good person. Other than that though, I have no problem with what he did.

[Pacifien]

Ringo12 wrote...
Lies because according to Angus he was pissed off and ready to attack his child.

Well, ****, what parent *doesn't* get pissed off at their child and wants to put a bullet through their head now and then. The important thing is that they don't. Put the bullet through their head. Cooling off takes awhile.

Modifié par Pacifien, 12 février 2012 - 06:44 .

[DarkDragon777]

Angus Cousland wrote...



When did I say he was going to attack the girl? I never said that. He very well could though, given his anger issues.

Really? That video in no way implied he had anger issues. Even if he was angry, it doesn't mean he has anger issues. If he was slightly bothered by something like that then fine. Most people would be angry about that. If someone shows off  a bit of frustration they don't automatically turn into some kind of killer. It's a normal emotion. But like I said before, he wasn't even angry in the video, no matter how much you''d like to imagine he was "secretly hiding" anger by concealing his facials expressions, or using a stern tone of voice, or whatever else nonsesnse....

[Pacifien]

Angus Cousland wrote...
But my overall argument still stands. What the man did is foolish and is a far cry from good parenting.

Personally, I wouldn't say it's Parent of the Year. I can see that underlying rage of someone who is pissed off, and I think he had a right to be pissed off because being a parent doesn't automatically turn off your ability feel the full range of human emotion. He felt slapped in the face, that shows.

What while it's a far cry from good parenting, it's also a far cry from bad parenting. Perhaps it's simply parenting and maybe it works for that family and maybe it doesn't. Maybe it works for them and completely fails for another. I can certainly tell you some people would look at my parents and think they were either awful or awesome depending on what I told them, but I came out... well, I'm not in jail, so they did all right.

But based on what you said that I edited out, to say you might be projecting a little might have some merit.

[Chromie]

Angus Cousland wrote...

Instead, he's destroying valuable property and humiliating his daughter like a school bully. That's terrible parenting, plain and simple.

I fear for your child.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Ringo12 wrote...

Angus Cousland wrote...

Instead, he's destroying valuable property and humiliating his daughter like a school bully. That's terrible parenting, plain and simple.

I fear for your child.

Well, I'm one of those who is raised with compassion and comfort. I've experienced no serious punishment. I was so arrogant, till I slowly studied and learned from awakening books and tried to be less scumbag, show some respect and be more rational.

How much retardation stabbed me in the back, until I realized how to deal with people and find a purpose ... has routes in being soft to me and be in comfort.

I'm technically 7 years underachieved.

Modifié par Jedi Sentinel Arian, 12 février 2012 - 07:58 .

[Chromie]

Angus Cousland wrote...
 But if I ever have one, I'll be sure to treat them like a human being.

And so will I.

[Chuvvy]

slimgrin wrote...

Talk about a stupid way to resolve a family issue. Maybe he wants his own reality show.

...Unfortunetly I could see that happening.

[Dominus]

Best Parent Ever?

No. That title belongs to Ethan Mars, assuming you went through every "thing". Heavy Rain spoilers for those who never played the game and intend to.

Modifié par DominusVita, 12 février 2012 - 01:29 .

[Mercannis]

That isnt anger you are seeing , its pain and disappointment any parent knows that look.. For those who dont yet have the hardest job on the planet, imagine that you one day discover that the most precious being in this world has betrayed you.

Not just that but that they have made it a public affair. I mean how many FB friends does the average teenager have? 100? 200?. How did her father find out in the first place? He claims it was while he installed software on her laptop ( costing 130 bucks thereabouts) i however know different.

Another parent most likely brought it to his attention as all the 'cool, rebellious' kids were talking about it at her school.  Most likely he expected comments over himself but not the entire family.

So he decided to send a message to her friends as well as teach her a lesson, let the punishment fit the crime and all that.

For those who think he went too far...he already said that they confiscated her laptop and Ipod on a previous occassion and that she was grounded for 3 months for a similar facebook fiasco. She was warned the punishment would be worse on a second offence and yet she carried on oblivious forcing his hand.

Personally i would have taken her to the school and let her watch as i donated the laptop to the school library.
However i can understand that he wants to show her that material things just arent that important, character means so much more.

As for it being valuable i think the guy has enough money, he was sitting on his property (tractor in background and a fence) and thus has the freedom to do whatever he likes.

To let off steam i box regularly, he shoots firearms.  Im not an American, its illegal where i am but not there so its his right as an American citizen to have a firearm so maybe folks should leave their bias at the door.