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[shepskisaac]

You may as well already change "developers" to "publisher" in the title. This is not a problem of BioWare. They always cared for PC gamers. This is EA, simple.

[LilyasAvalon]

DragonRageGT wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

I don't understand why this so quickly turned into a war between console gamers and PC gamers.

It did not. By any means, what makes you think that? WAR betwen gamers? nah. More like one or a few console gamers trying to sabotage the thread enacting a war that does not exist. The thread is not about console. Guess they hate that.

Well, what is the issue with how the graphics look on the console then, if you don't mind my asking. I get it for the PC. Some people have well built PCs for high quality gaming. But, I was lead to believe the PS3 and 360 were relatively powerful consoles.

[Arppis]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

I don't understand why this so quickly turned into a war between console gamers and PC gamers.

It did not. By any means, what makes you think that? WAR betwen gamers? nah. More like one or a few console gamers trying to sabotage the thread enacting a war that does not exist. The thread is not about console. Guess they hate that.

Well, what is the issue with how the graphics look on the console then, if you don't mind my asking. I get it for the PC. Some people have well built PCs for high quality gaming. But, I was lead to believe the PS3 and 360 were relatively powerful consoles.

Looks good enough!

[Gatt9]

Darth_Trethon wrote...

20.5 billion? Damn that's grim news.....we can only hope the number is false or exaggerated.

Grim?  Far from it.  The current console centric focus yielded only 9 billion in sales for 2011,  with a significant portion of that being COD alone.  That $20 billion is a very significant number,  especially as the consoles are starting to yield a very poor return.

December 2011 yielded a 14% drop in revenue,  2011 as a whole was an 8% drop,  and when you factor out COD it's more like 20%.

That's actually great news,  because it's $20 billion now and if gaming were to shift,  would be much larger very quickly.  With the console-centric buisness plan yielding huge drops in revenue,  things will shift here very shortly. 
January 2012 was a 37% drop in revenue,  these are very scary numbers to buisness men.

Modifié par Gatt9, 12 février 2012 - 06:09 .

[CroGamer002]

IsaacShep wrote...

You may as well already change "developers" to "publisher" in the title. This is not a problem of BioWare. They always cared for PC gamers. This is EA, simple.

Then why did EA let ME1 to be ported on PC?

And that Origin thing pretty much means they know PC market is good.

[hangmans tree]

Mesina2 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

You may as well already change "developers" to "publisher" in the title. This is not a problem of BioWare. They always cared for PC gamers. This is EA, simple.

Then why did EA let ME1 to be ported on PC?

And that Origin thing pretty much means they know PC market is good.

I might be wrong but I think EA was not a publisher for ME1

EDIT: Yep, it was Microsoft in 2007

Modifié par hangmans tree, 12 février 2012 - 06:18 .

[LilyasAvalon]

Arppis wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

I don't understand why this so quickly turned into a war between console gamers and PC gamers.

It did not. By any means, what makes you think that? WAR betwen gamers? nah. More like one or a few console gamers trying to sabotage the thread enacting a war that does not exist. The thread is not about console. Guess they hate that.

Well, what is the issue with how the graphics look on the console then, if you don't mind my asking. I get it for the PC. Some people have well built PCs for high quality gaming. But, I was lead to believe the PS3 and 360 were relatively powerful consoles.

Looks good enough!

So... the only reason some consolers are getting angry is because... the thread isn't about the console? Seriously?

[DragonRageGT]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

I don't understand why this so quickly turned into a war between console gamers and PC gamers.

It did not. By any means, what makes you think that? WAR betwen gamers? nah. More like one or a few console gamers trying to sabotage the thread enacting a war that does not exist. The thread is not about console. Guess they hate that.

Well, what is the issue with how the graphics look on the console then, if you don't mind my asking. I get it for the PC. Some people have well built PCs for high quality gaming. But, I was lead to believe the PS3 and 360 were relatively powerful consoles.

I don't know. I have no idea how graphics look on any consoles. I'm sure I don't want them looking the same on my PC though because of, you know, more computational power! :innocent:

[LilyasAvalon]

hangmans tree wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

You may as well already change "developers" to "publisher" in the title. This is not a problem of BioWare. They always cared for PC gamers. This is EA, simple.

Then why did EA let ME1 to be ported on PC?

And that Origin thing pretty much means they know PC market is good.

I might be wrong but I think EA was not a publisher for ME1

EDIT: Yep, it was Microsoft in 2007

Microsoft was the publisher for the 360 though. EA was the publisher for the PC version.

[Arppis]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Arppis wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

I don't understand why this so quickly turned into a war between console gamers and PC gamers.

It did not. By any means, what makes you think that? WAR betwen gamers? nah. More like one or a few console gamers trying to sabotage the thread enacting a war that does not exist. The thread is not about console. Guess they hate that.

Well, what is the issue with how the graphics look on the console then, if you don't mind my asking. I get it for the PC. Some people have well built PCs for high quality gaming. But, I was lead to believe the PS3 and 360 were relatively powerful consoles.

Looks good enough!

So... the only reason some consolers are getting angry is because... the thread isn't about the console? Seriously?

I haven't read much of it, but PC crowd can be pretty elitisitic (and console crowd can be just as bad). I don't see a point comming here saying that PC sucks. So they are propably just trolling.

[Yuoaman]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

I don't understand why this so quickly turned into a war between console gamers and PC gamers.

It did not. By any means, what makes you think that? WAR betwen gamers? nah. More like one or a few console gamers trying to sabotage the thread enacting a war that does not exist. The thread is not about console. Guess they hate that.

Well, what is the issue with how the graphics look on the console then, if you don't mind my asking. I get it for the PC. Some people have well built PCs for high quality gaming. But, I was lead to believe the PS3 and 360 were relatively powerful consoles.

They were relatively powerful six years ago - now they're quite out-of-date and holding back games everywhere, which is why it's so awesome a new console generation is on the horizon.

[shepskisaac]

Mesina2 wrote...

Then why did EA let ME1 to be ported on PC?

And that Origin thing pretty much means they know PC market is good.

Ohh I'm not saying EA doesn't see the money in PC market. But the quality of their service on PC is often the problem.

[ColdRiver]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

I don't understand why this so quickly turned into a war between console gamers and PC gamers.

It did not. By any means, what makes you think that? WAR betwen gamers? nah. More like one or a few console gamers trying to sabotage the thread enacting a war that does not exist. The thread is not about console. Guess they hate that.

Well, what is the issue with how the graphics look on the console then, if you don't mind my asking. I get it for the PC. Some people have well built PCs for high quality gaming. But, I was lead to believe the PS3 and 360 were relatively powerful consoles.

For consoles is fine because they work at a lower resolution, so the textures don't don't look as bad, because you never notice it.

When you're on a PC, full blown 1080p, the characters can look down right ugly because of the low textures.

[AnubisOnly]

If they will not release HighRes Textures patch I will be sad, but we still have talented modders!
Also ME2 is ''customisable'' on PC with proper tools, I myself uses many mods for better graphics for both ME1 & ME2, like HiResTex, enb series mod, I also have modified many things in coalesced & unrealengine.ini files, and I'm pretty satisfied with the graphics ;-)

[Chiefje]

I support a Hi-Res texture pack for PC.

[LilyasAvalon]

ColdRiver wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

I don't understand why this so quickly turned into a war between console gamers and PC gamers.

It did not. By any means, what makes you think that? WAR betwen gamers? nah. More like one or a few console gamers trying to sabotage the thread enacting a war that does not exist. The thread is not about console. Guess they hate that.

Well, what is the issue with how the graphics look on the console then, if you don't mind my asking. I get it for the PC. Some people have well built PCs for high quality gaming. But, I was lead to believe the PS3 and 360 were relatively powerful consoles.

For consoles is fine because they work at a lower resolution, so the textures don't don't look as bad, because you never notice it.

When you're on a PC, full blown 1080p, the characters can look down right ugly because of the low textures.

Aren't TV's bigger than most monitors though?

My monitor is only a 23 inch roughly.

[Thoth_Amon]

Hook up your PC to a 55" TV and have your mind blown.

[Chromie]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Well, what is the issue with how the graphics look on the console then, if you don't mind my asking. I get it for the PC. Some people have well built PCs for high quality gaming. But, I was lead to believe the PS3 and 360 were relatively powerful consoles.

It's because the devs already have highres textures available. They are NOT just creating them out of thin air. Why PC users can't have access to highres textures is stupid. Lowres textures are frankly ugly and since a lot of sit infront of our monitors its just very noticable. Hell Mass Effect 3 probably won't need a good PC to play on max it's on the Unreal Engine after all which can run great oh the worst of PC's. The only reason highres textures aren't give to us is because of laziness. Dragon Age 2 has a highres pack release and just recently Skyrim did also.

[DragonRageGT]

LilyasAvalon wrote...
Aren't TV's bigger than most monitors though?

My monitor is only a 23 inch roughly.

If you sit as close to the tv as to your monitor... your eyes would suffer. And that's why big screens had HD now. =)

[ColdRiver]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

ColdRiver wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

DragonRageGT wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

I don't understand why this so quickly turned into a war between console gamers and PC gamers.

It did not. By any means, what makes you think that? WAR betwen gamers? nah. More like one or a few console gamers trying to sabotage the thread enacting a war that does not exist. The thread is not about console. Guess they hate that.

Well, what is the issue with how the graphics look on the console then, if you don't mind my asking. I get it for the PC. Some people have well built PCs for high quality gaming. But, I was lead to believe the PS3 and 360 were relatively powerful consoles.

For consoles is fine because they work at a lower resolution, so the textures don't don't look as bad, because you never notice it.

When you're on a PC, full blown 1080p, the characters can look down right ugly because of the low textures.

Aren't TV's bigger than most monitors though?

My monitor is only a 23 inch roughly.

It's not about your TV, it's about the video cards in the consoles, they don't support 1080p. This generation consoles resolution is somewhere around under 720p. 

Also:  Because big TVs support 1080p doesn't mean you're actually gaming at 1080p. All your TV does is upscale the image, 720p to 1080p. Which is why some games look muddy and ugly on consoles.

Modifié par ColdRiver, 12 février 2012 - 07:26 .

[DaJe]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

I never understand PC gamers and their hate for console. Did PC gamers get beaten up on the street by Console gamers one night and hold a grudge now?

Imagine one beloved gaming franchise after another gets dragged away from the platform you play on. Then imagine suddenly being treated like a minority and looked down on from some (by far not all) young console gamers who don't even know the origin of the games they play.
It creates grudges. Honestly though, I'm happy I don't have to upgrade my computer all the time anymore since technological development in games has almost come to a fullstop since Crysis1. Saves lots of money.

[CroGamer002]

IsaacShep wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Then why did EA let ME1 to be ported on PC?

And that Origin thing pretty much means they know PC market is good.

Ohh I'm not saying EA doesn't see the money in PC market. But the quality of their service on PC is often the problem.

Their quality of service has nothing to do for Bioware not making perfect PC port.

[ElitesamuraI26]

N7Raider wrote...

the developers don't care about PC gamers at this point cause 90% of you are all going to boycott the game cause of Origin the remaining 9% will pirate the game and 1% will actually purchase the game.

Oiut accusing all PC gamers of being pirate.

[Greyfox84]

Any extra love the PC version could potentially recieve (much like Skyrim) would be amazing.
Perhaps the impressive PC sales of Skyrim helped Betheseda's decision to release an official hi res texture pack and modding tools. Hopefully the same could happen here?

[Mathias]

SliPaladin wrote...

Ahh I see, you've jumped on the "Let's hate Origin" train. Origin is doing great so far, they have updated it, it doesn't spy anymore, it works perfectly well, download speeds are crazy fast and I cannot imagine how much better it'll be in the future. Think about it, Steam was never that good when it came out and Steam has lot's of annoying problems too, deal with it.

It's my choice whether or not i want Origin. I'm not jumping on any train so please don't make me out to be a simple hater, nor ask me to "deal with it". I do what I want with my PC.