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[CrazyRah]

From what i've seen on youtube the textures are not horrible, they're not great either but i didn't expect anything else in a demo

[SliPaladin]

**** this, it's getting us nowhere.

[Poison_Berrie]

@F1r3storm:
Certain environment and clothing textures are not meant to be seen up close. You can easily miss them and it's not terrible, but they are there. 
Garrus' armor for example isn't much to look at when you are up close. Since the focus is mostly on the face during conversations it's not something most people notice.

@ SykoWolf: CerberusSoldier is the one trolling, but you and several others are taking his bait and responding to it, though. It's just better to ignore people like him.

Modifié par Poison_Berrie, 13 février 2012 - 01:45 .

[SykoWolf]

Textures seem fine to me, several of my friends seemed happy with it, probably depends on viewpoint.

[Bhaal]

Well, use origin. I know i know, but remember the time when steam came out. Everyone hated it, they said they're going to pirate games "because of" steam. God it's like deja vu!

Now majority agreed on that steam saved pc gaming. Steam's formula againts piracy worked well and now EA copying it but pc gamers blaming them for forsaking us pc gamers.

Bethesda made an u turn once they saw Skyrim sold almost equal to x-box on pc. EA will too if...

[KingMakaveli]

I personally think it's only logical to release a high resolution pack and take off some of the stupid graphical restrictions for the PC version of the game. But apparantly it's too much work or something. It's sad really..

[DragonRageGT]

SykoWolf wrote...

Poison_Berrie wrote...

Please stop feeding the troll, people.
This will only get this thread closed.

Are you talking about me or CerberusSoldier?
If me ,then, I just apologised for wording it wrong, if CerberusSoldier, I agree he is kinds trollish.

Definitely Cerberus Soldier. But what to expect of an infiltrated cerberus agent here? Sabotage, of course!

[DragonRageGT]

Adakutay wrote...

Well, use origin. I know i know, but remember the time when steam came out. Everyone hated it, they said they're going to pirate games "because of" steam. God it's like deja vu!

Now majority agreed on that steam saved pc gaming. Steam's formula againts piracy worked well and now EA copying it but pc gamers blaming them for forsaking us pc gamers.

Bethesda made an u turn once they saw Skyrim sold almost equal to x-box on pc. EA will too if...

From that article linked on previous page:

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Practical Solutions

Instead of an unrealistic and unviable list of demands, what the piracy debate really needs are practical suggestions which both parties can accommodate. In that spirit I want to provide a basic list of the types of things which games companies and consumers can each do to reduce the negative impacts of piracy and hopefully maintain a healthy selection of games to suit all tastes on the PC in the years to come.

Developers & Publishers

• Release more demos. Demos are becoming rarer these days, and this provides an excuse for piracy. Of course Crysis had a full demo for example and was still pirated to the tune of almost 1 million copies in 2008 alone, however a demo released before the final game will help some legitimate purchasers avoid the temptation of day-zero piracy, help manage user expectations about the final game, spread valuable word of mouth legitimately, and also help identify major bugs earlier, leading to quicker patches.
• Make copy protection and DRM methods clearer on game boxes and on game websites. Also publish a link to a page detailing the hardware with which the protection is incompatible (e.g. SecuROM & known DVD drive incompatibilities). Aside from deflating claims of a cover-up, this also allows customers to make a fully informed purchase and lowers support costs.
• Publish realistic minimum and recommended specs. Too many people assume that minimum specs are sufficient to play the game at low settings, when in reality minimum specs are usually sufficient to only barely run the game in an unplayable manner. Recommended specs should be published to a standardized level across all games, e.g. 'Below is the recommended hardware to achieve an average of 30FPS at 1280x720'.
• Provide a toll-free tech support line for DRM-related issues. It's completely unreasonable for legitimate purchasers to have to pay several dollars a minute to call tech support regarding issues that are no fault of their own, such as SecuROM disc check failures and known drive incompatibilities. Emailing tech support on these issues is also a complete waste of time due to vague stock answers, so email support also needs to be shored up.
• Stop delaying releases by region. Releasing games earlier in some regions is probably the single biggest incentive for people to pirate a game and contribute to day-zero piracy. Releasing games with different protection methods in different regions also allows pirates to simply attack the weakest link to achieve a working crack. For example the TAGES system in STALKER: Clear Sky went uncracked for two weeks after release, however the Russian StarForce version of the game's executable - which was released three weeks earlier in Russia - was cracked and used as a working crack for the non-Russian versions upon their release. So release all games globally at approximately the same time, and unify the protection method if you're serious about slowing down day-zero piracy.
• Lower prices on digital distribution. Instead of making sure that digital copies match retail copies in an effort to protect retail distribution, accept the transition to digital distribution by lowering prices to realistically reflect the lower costs, potentially increasing sales due to the greater convenience at a lower price.

Consumers

• Reduce piracy. This article has demonstrated the potential impacts of piracy, so while I have no doubt that most people will just ignore it and continue to pirate games anyway, if you don't want the PC to become just an MMO and casual gaming platform, try to buy most of your games if not all of them. If a game is crappy, there's a simple solution: don't buy it and don't pirate it.
• Stop making excuses for piracy. Not just your own piracy, but also the piracy which others commit and openly brag about, and which piracy sites promote through misleading propaganda. Stop helping them to justify it with made-up facts and regurgitated misinformation which you don't truly understand, such as claiming SecuROM is spyware. If you aren't fully across an issue, either research it properly before making a comment, or stay quiet. Don't blindly support piracy just because it's the popular thing to do.
• Drop the DRM hysteria. Work with developers and publishers to provide verified and rational feedback on problems you genuinely believe are related to DRM so that they can rectify the issues, either through patches or workarounds, and of course to prevent these issues in newer versions of the protection systems. If all else fails, don't buy games which have problematic DRM, but don't pirate them either - this sends an unambiguous message to the games companies that all demand for their product - both legitimate and illegitimate - is falling.
• Don't blindly support Steam. Steam is a good digital distribution platform, but at the moment Valve has an effective monopoly on digital games distribution. In the absence of a real competitor, prices will remain high and Valve will have no incentive to pressure publishers to both lower digital prices and remove redundant DRM on Steam-protected games.
• Support small innovative developers. To counter the constant run of gradually lower quality franchise games such as the Need for Speed and Sims series, reward small developers who innovate and take risks with their own money - buy their games. Everyone loves to be seen saying supportive things to small developers, but data and anecdotal evidence from the developers shows that in private people pirate the hell out of these games, especially those without any DRM. Put your money where your mouth is.

EOQ

[leeboi2]

N7Raider wrote...

the developers don't care about PC gamers at this point cause 90% of you are all going to boycott the game cause of Origin the remaining 9% will pirate the game and 1% will actually purchase the game.

[Severyx]

I',m simply amazed at the number of people waltzing in here and accusing us of all sorts of nonsense. I'm starting to get the idea that console gamers are simply butthurt that there's a thread dedicated to PC requests for a change.

Regardless, I'm going to continue to support this idea as long as the mods don't shut it down. The fact that this hasn't been talked down or locked by the mods is enough for me to keep at it. It's worth the effort, not just for me, but for all my fellow PC gaming brothers and sisters.

Console players can continue to accuse us of 'demanding' things, but they're just creating an unnecessary community divide. Trolls aside, I think this is just as, if not moreso, reasonable than some of the other solid community requests made within the last year. I'll stand by that to the end.

[Fishy]

Indeed . Just wait for the day when every PC game will have a select screen with 'Press triangle to continue' and without any option menu!!!! Hell in a couple years the only option in PC game will be the Gamma one.

i guess developper consider their 'console' port to be sufficient for the PC gamer. Just slap a enter into that screen and print it babe.

Modifié par Suprez30, 13 février 2012 - 02:30 .

[WizenSlinky0]

Severyx wrote...

I',m simply amazed at the number of people waltzing in here and accusing us of all sorts of nonsense. I'm starting to get the idea that console gamers are simply butthurt that there's a thread dedicated to PC requests for a change.

Regardless, I'm going to continue to support this idea as long as the mods don't shut it down. The fact that this hasn't been talked down or locked by the mods is enough for me to keep at it. It's worth the effort, not just for me, but for all my fellow PC gaming brothers and sisters.

Console players can continue to accuse us of 'demanding' things, but they're just creating an unnecessary community divide. Trolls aside, I think this is just as, if not moreso, reasonable than some of the other solid community requests made within the last year. I'll stand by that to the end.

It amazes me when someone generalizes an entire market of players, on both sides, whenever they have a few people object to their opinions. Are you not causing an unnecessary divide by purposely dividing "Console players" from "PC players" in a negative context? Gamers are gamers. The medium is not important.

[Fishy]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Severyx wrote...

I',m simply amazed at the number of people waltzing in here and accusing us of all sorts of nonsense. I'm starting to get the idea that console gamers are simply butthurt that there's a thread dedicated to PC requests for a change.

Regardless, I'm going to continue to support this idea as long as the mods don't shut it down. The fact that this hasn't been talked down or locked by the mods is enough for me to keep at it. It's worth the effort, not just for me, but for all my fellow PC gaming brothers and sisters.

Console players can continue to accuse us of 'demanding' things, but they're just creating an unnecessary community divide. Trolls aside, I think this is just as, if not moreso, reasonable than some of the other solid community requests made within the last year. I'll stand by that to the end.

It amazes me when someone generalizes an entire market of players, on both sides, whenever they have a few people object to their opinions. Are you not causing an unnecessary divide by purposely dividing "Console players" from "PC players" in a negative context? Gamers are gamers. The medium is not important.

I think you don't understand . it's like purchasing a 70 inch t.v and the movie only use 20 inch of that T.V. This is exactly what happens with a lot of PC game. It's like purchasing a formula one and you can only use it on your parking lot.

Modifié par Suprez30, 13 février 2012 - 02:37 .

[SykoWolf]

PC games deserve just as much as console games NO MORE, NO LESS!!! Agreed?
P.S I'm a console gamer (xbox)

[Poison_Berrie]

Suprez30 wrote...

I think you don't understand . it's like purchasing a 70 inch t.v and the movie only use 20 inch of that T.V. This is exactly what happens with a lot of PC game. It's like purchasing a formula one and you can only use it on your parking lot.

That's got nothing to do with what he's saying.

[tetrisblock4x1]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Severyx wrote...

I',m simply amazed at the number of people waltzing in here and accusing us of all sorts of nonsense. I'm starting to get the idea that console gamers are simply butthurt that there's a thread dedicated to PC requests for a change.

Regardless, I'm going to continue to support this idea as long as the mods don't shut it down. The fact that this hasn't been talked down or locked by the mods is enough for me to keep at it. It's worth the effort, not just for me, but for all my fellow PC gaming brothers and sisters.

Console players can continue to accuse us of 'demanding' things, but they're just creating an unnecessary community divide. Trolls aside, I think this is just as, if not moreso, reasonable than some of the other solid community requests made within the last year. I'll stand by that to the end.

It amazes me when someone generalizes an entire market of players, on both sides, whenever they have a few people object to their opinions. Are you not causing an unnecessary divide by purposely dividing "Console players" from "PC players" in a negative context? Gamers are gamers. The medium is not important.

Well you can't just deny the fact that PC gamers by nature have higher standards and expectations than console gamers. Can take hours of market research to put a decent rig together. It has benefits over console gaming, but the benefits fit the effort, the time and the money that a PC gamer needs to invest into getting that gaming system that they want, and it takes knowledge and technical skills to get the most out of gaming market which doesn't exactly make optimization easy or apparant, and in some cases such as ME2 hi rez downright difficult.

[Tup3x]

Considering how much ram and vram PCs have these days, it is almosr insulting that they keep offering these smartphone grade textures.

[tetrisblock4x1]

SykoWolf wrote...

PC games deserve just as much as console games NO MORE, NO LESS!!! Agreed?
P.S I'm a console gamer (xbox)

People should be rewarded for their efforts. Assembling your own computer piecemeal takes time, knowledge and effort so the pay off should be proportional to the investment. Of course you could buy a decent gaming package from a company like Alienware, but that will cost you hundreds more dollars on top of what is normally as costly as a console at best, so either way PC gaming comes with an extra investment..

Modifié par tetrisblock4x1, 13 février 2012 - 03:04 .

[SykoWolf]

Building up your pc to be the mac daddy of pc's was your personal choice, so no that doesn't entitle you to more, unless Mass Effect specifically requires you to do so, which it don't, plus you guys get mods (for most games)

[Shinji2787]

Mass Effect was originally a xbox360 exclusive title... But some sort of hi-res optional texture pack at release would be cool. (DA2's was..lets be honest not really an improvement of any kind...) Sort of like how you could download the hi-res textures for BF3 on xbox for nicer textures.(I'm talking about cross-platform hi-res texture availability as an option fyi..)

[tetrisblock4x1]

Actually ports to PC often do specifically require more because the port is horribly optimized.

[Bhaal]

@DragonRageGT

I have already read the article, thank you very much. However i don't quiet understand what do you mean by highlighting that line? People pirate because digital copies priced same with retail copies?

Modifié par Adakutay, 13 février 2012 - 03:37 .

[Prom001]

Why is is a problem for peopleif Pc gamer are asking for a hi-res optional texture pack?

[SliPaladin]

Keep the console wars out of this thread.

[Stanley Woo]

since this thread is no longer on topic, it gets locked.

End of line.