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How to make the developers listen to us PC gamers (Chris Priestly we need you)


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CerberusSoldier wrote...

Op you pc gamers are not the ruling party in video games . developers listen to us console gamers

I used to be like you, not caring about PC gamers and all that... but then I took an powerful PC to the face and I realized what I had been missing all those years while gaming on a console. I don't blame you for trying to troll us PC gamers, I don't blame you for not liking us, you will never know until you actually get to game on a decent rig and see the potential of PC games. 
Inb4 i already have- well then that's just your opinion then. 

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Zatou wrote...

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

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So after 8 pages I guess i'm gonna be the only one who's gonna say i don't think the textures in the demo were bad? They looked fine to me.


Dude you were looking at a 720p picture with muddy washed out colours, everything is going to look consistently crap. Low textures are so much more noticeable when everything else is crisp (1080p, vibrant colour scheme, actual shadows).


I didn't think it looked like crap at all. If you wanna say inferior than sure, but to say "crap" is over exaggerating.


I would've said the same thing a year ago. Once you've been spoiled by the PC's graphics, everything under 1080p with less than 60FPS looks craptacular. Its a burden we all carry.

Do yourself a favour and never look at TW2 at 1400p at 60FPS on the PC. It'll sour your view of every Xbox/PS3 game you ever played.


I loved The Witcher 2 and it was a beautiful game, but it didn't sour my view on console graphics because i know what to expect. My PC didn't turn me into a graphics whImage IPBre.

It's not just "loving" the witcher 2. Stop gaming on your consoles for 3 years and then come back.

Then you'll notice a difference.


Why would i stop gaming on my console when there are console exclusives that i can't play on my PC? I already see the difference and it doesn't bother me at all. That shouldn't be difficult to comprehend.

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[quote]Mdoggy1214 wrote...

[quote]Zatou wrote...

[quote]Mdoggy1214 wrote...

[quote]Gibb_Shepard wrote...

[quote]Mdoggy1214 wrote...

[quote]Gibb_Shepard wrote...

[quote]Mdoggy1214 wrote...

So after 8 pages I guess i'm gonna be the only one who's gonna say i don't think the textures in the demo were bad? They looked fine to me.[/quote]

Dude you were looking at a 720p picture with muddy washed out colours, everything is going to look consistently crap. Low textures are so much more noticeable when everything else is crisp (1080p, vibrant colour scheme, actual shadows).
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I didn't think it looked like crap at all. If you wanna say inferior than sure, but to say "crap" is over exaggerating.
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I would've said the same thing a year ago. Once you've been spoiled by the PC's graphics, everything under 1080p with less than 60FPS looks craptacular. Its a burden we all carry.

Do yourself a favour and never look at TW2 at 1400p at 60FPS on the PC. It'll sour your view of every Xbox/PS3 game you ever played.
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I loved The Witcher 2 and it was a beautiful game, but it didn't sour my view on console graphics because i know what to expect. My PC didn't turn me into a graphics whImage IPBre. [/quote]
It's not just "loving" the witcher 2. Stop gaming on your consoles for 3 years and then come back.

Then you'll notice a difference.

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Why would i stop gaming on my console when there are console exclusives that i can't play on my PC? I already see the difference and it doesn't bother me at all. That shouldn't be difficult to comprehend. As PC gamers, you guys are gonna be all set if you want those more crisp textures and you should know that by now. 

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 12 février 2012 - 03:58 .


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SliPaladin wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Op you pc gamers are not the ruling party in video games . developers listen to us console gamers

I used to be like you, not caring about PC gamers and all that... but then I took an powerful PC to the face and I realized what I had been missing all those years while gaming on a console. I don't blame you for trying to troll us PC gamers, I don't blame you for not liking us, you will never know until you actually get to game on a decent rig and see the potential of PC games. 
Inb4 i already have- well then that's just your opinion then. 


It's funny, because i used to be just like him to. I used to troll PS3 players about how the 360 had the better ME2 because some lighting was 10% brighter.

Man was i pathetic

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

SliPaladin wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Op you pc gamers are not the ruling party in video games . developers listen to us console gamers

I used to be like you, not caring about PC gamers and all that... but then I took an powerful PC to the face and I realized what I had been missing all those years while gaming on a console. I don't blame you for trying to troll us PC gamers, I don't blame you for not liking us, you will never know until you actually get to game on a decent rig and see the potential of PC games. 
Inb4 i already have- well then that's just your opinion then. 


It's funny, because i used to be just like him to. I used to troll PS3 players about how the 360 had the better ME2 because some lighting was 10% brighter.

Man was i pathetic

Same here man... ahh those were the times... 

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I would've got ME3 for the PC, but i hate Origin. So I preordered it for my 360, i got my playthroughs all set up and i'm ready to go.

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Ahh I see, you've jumped on the "Let's hate Origin" train. Origin is doing great so far, they have updated it, it doesn't spy anymore, it works perfectly well, download speeds are crazy fast and I cannot imagine how much better it'll be in the future. Think about it, Steam was never that good when it came out and Steam has lot's of annoying problems too, deal with it.

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Incoming format wars lockdown. :D

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A lot of people seem to be forgetting exactly what we're asking for. We're not asking for devs to focus solely on making the PC version better than everything else. All we're asking for is a little bit of extra tweaks in the controls (easily changed with a patch) and the uncompressed textures that are usually a part of the game before it ships.

Again, asking for something like a DLC-ish add-on to give us the textures isn't a massive request. All we need to do is either: A) Find out that the PC version already uses uncompressed textures in the base game OR B) Raise awareness so that it becomes a viable project.

And for the record, EA owns BioWare, yes, but BioWare Montreal is still the developer for ME3. EA is not a developer (however, they do have their own dev teams like EA Tiburon), nor is BioWare a publisher. BUT ALAS, I DIGRESS!

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If anyone could make a "we support high-res textures for ME3" sig I would greatly appreciate it. I have no idea on how to use photoshop.

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I could make one for you SliPaladin, but you'd need to direct me to what sort of image you'd want on it. I can't really think of a suitable one.

As a console and PC gamer, I would appreciate a little more PC support when it comes to the ME games. I enjoy them, but a graphical/texture boost would go a long way. And people who say "you should be grateful for even having it" are stupid. I paid for it - Bioware is making a profit from it. Why should I be grateful for getting what I paid for?

Anyway, I play ME on PC because the Xbox version sells out ridiculously fast, especially at the UK, Just look at the 'Game cancelled my pre-order' thread.

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Dasher1010 wrote...

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the developers don't care about PC gamers at this point cause 90% of you are all going to boycott the game cause of Origin the remaining 9% will pirate the game and 1% will actually purchase the game.


Almost all of my PC games are either on Steam or Origin. The only two boxed PC games I bought last year were The Witcher 2 and Batman: Arkham City. I dont' mind digital distro services and quite honestly, it beats heading out late at night for a mdinight launch.



But despite getting the Witcher 2 at midnight, it wasn't 'till about 4:00 am that it could be activated by their server. So...what was the point of the midnight launch?

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Will there be modding capabilities? There was for ME2, at least moderately so. I think one of the best things a company can do for the PC fanbase is release a toolset for their games. The only reason I ever got through DA:O was cause I modded the hell out of it.

Modifié par slimgrin, 12 février 2012 - 06:09 .


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I mainly game on PC because of the mouse and keyboard, I can't seem to aim with a controller. Also 60fps is just fantastic. If you could, just make it simple, nothing fancy.

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SliPaladin wrote...

If anyone could make a "we support high-res textures for ME3" sig I would greatly appreciate it. I have no idea on how to use photoshop.


Here's something to start with:

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I don't understand why this so quickly turned into a war between console gamers and PC gamers.

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SliPaladin wrote...

I mainly game on PC because of the mouse and keyboard, I can't seem to aim with a controller. Also 60fps is just fantastic. If you could, just make it simple, nothing fancy.


Actually, that's the case with me too. I prefer mouse and keboard. But then I love mods, cheaper games, companies like GoG. There's lots of reasons to game on PC and to expect devs to make good PC ports. And the good devs do. Console gamers getting mad cause PC platform has more capabilities need to quit expecting devs to automatically scale everything down for the xbox. If a dev like Rock Steady goes out of their way to offer a solid PC port, well everybody wins as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, this thread need not be about platform wars.

Modifié par slimgrin, 12 février 2012 - 05:54 .


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Well, at least CD Projekt RED cares about me.

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Jynthor wrote...

Well, at least CD Projekt RED cares about me.


Actually, they took some heat for the 'designed with gamepads in mind' UI. And I wish they'd get a toolkit out for TW2 already. <_<

Modifié par slimgrin, 12 février 2012 - 06:10 .


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AlexXIV wrote...

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Oh look, another thread about PC gamers and how they don't get this and that.

Actually we got more than console players. I just wish they would make better consoles. Then we could all play on the same platform and save everyone alot of trouble.


Never said you got anything less.

I never understand PC gamers and their hate for console. Did PC gamers get beaten up on the street by Console gamers one night and hold a grudge now?

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Seriously guys this wasn't meant to turn into a flamewar. Console gamers please leave if you have nothing to contribute.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Oh look, another thread about PC gamers and how they don't get this and that.

Actually we got more than console players. I just wish they would make better consoles. Then we could all play on the same platform and save everyone alot of trouble.


Never said you got anything less.

I never understand PC gamers and their hate for console. Did PC gamers get beaten up on the street by Console gamers one night and hold a grudge now?


I'm a PC gamer and have nothing against Console Gamers. I just can't use a controller to save my life.

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LilyasAvalon wrote...

I don't understand why this so quickly turned into a war between console gamers and PC gamers.


It did not. By any means, what makes you think that? WAR betwen gamers? nah. More like one or a few console gamers trying to sabotage the thread enacting a war that does not exist. The thread is not about console. Guess they hate that.

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

I never understand PC gamers and their hate for console. Did PC gamers get beaten up on the street by Console gamers one night and hold a grudge now?


Give it a rest.

Modifié par slimgrin, 12 février 2012 - 06:04 .


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Developers won't catch up with PC hardware until new consoles are released. I do hope the rumors of the "Xbox 720" coming out sooner than we think are true. Then we'll see real progress with DX11 support and higher resolution textures for everyone.