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[HachreEA]

I don't like that the holstering is gone Feels a lot more like Dead Space now running through the 2nd mission..

[mybudgee]

No option to holster weapons? I recall an ironic hudson quote: "we want to give the player as many options as possible through all areas of the game" ...except the gun...

[Praetor Knight]

HachreEA wrote...

I don't like that the holstering is gone Feels a lot more like Dead Space now running through the 2nd mission..

Uh, well, at least ME3 isn't survival horror I guess.

[Heimdall]

I don't really see why it's such a big deal

[wijse]

If all people actually read what has been discussed, they would know why the lack of holstering animations is not there. It is because of the all the new stuff in the game and because the memory of the consoles can not handle it. Thats what you get with consoles with 7 years old hardware.

Read what Brenon Holmes from Bioware wrote in this thread. 

Modifié par wijse, 15 février 2012 - 02:10 .

[Matt VT Schlo]

Why was this an issue for ME3 yet not ME2? Disappointed.....We seem to get less options with each passing Bioware game. This is not a make or break, but its a real bummer

Thanks to Bioware devs for the answer - much appreciated for the honesty

[jd641]

wijse wrote...

If all people actually read what has been discussed, they would know why the lack of holstering animations is not there. It is because of the all the new stuff in the game and because the memory of the consoles can not handle it. Thats what you get with consoles with 7 years old hardware.

Read what Brenon Holmes from Bioware wrote in this thread. 

Sorry but that's pathetic.

[Heavy01]

HachreEA wrote...

I don't like that the holstering is gone Feels a lot more like Dead Space now running through the 2nd mission..

Don't insult dead space, in dead space Isaac pulls down his gun and just has it ready on his hand, in mass effect 3 shepard just walks around aiming his gun everywhere like a god damn retard.

[wijse]

jd641 wrote...

wijse wrote...

If all people actually read what has been discussed, they would know why the lack of holstering animations is not there. It is because of the all the new stuff in the game and because the memory of the consoles can not handle it. Thats what you get with consoles with 7 years old hardware.

Read what Brenon Holmes from Bioware wrote in this thread. 

Sorry but that's pathetic.

Sorry but your reply is pathetic.

[MelodicCure]

DayusMakhina wrote...

MelodicCure wrote...

The JoeMan wrote...

MelodicCure wrote...

This is a deal breaker for me if it isn't in the final product. Who the F*ck runs around their own Normandy ship pointing their gun at their own crew all the time? This is mass effect and not Gears of War. Did EA take it and turn this game into F*cking gears? wtf?

Really man?

Really.

When you're just in hub areas (like the Normandy) you never could draw your weapon in the first place so all you've said is... irrelevant.

They've removed the ability to holster your weapon when you are in combat.

It's still as stupid when talking to Anderson in the demo.  At least lower the gun. 

[Texhnolyze101]

Xtreme-Tiramisu wrote...

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Unato wrote...

i dont see what's so hard to understand about what Brenon has said the Xbox 360 has 512MB of memory and the PS3 has 256 System + 256 Video memory.

the amount of memory used when holstered weapon animation + other animation + other data is loaded into memory in a combat area exceeds or comes close to exceeding the system memory of w/e is the limitation (PS3 or Xbox) therefore they chose the "least important" variable and removed it

I honestly blame kinect it is the most useless feature they added to ME3 and i would rather have the ability to holster my gun than yell at my tv screen...such a waste.

Agree. Kinect is just a marketing gimmick. In marketing terms, we call it competitive advantage or diffrentiation. It's an interesting feature, sure. It does enchance the entertainment value in the game but it doesn't improve the functionality in issueing commands. In the hands of a veteran player, kinect would certainly be an useless feature. Fast paced and sophisticated FPS games using voice activated sync just won't cut it in a real competitive in game situation.

definitely did M$ actually think just because ME is popular people would buy a kinect for it? lol i bet they tried to make this same deal with beth because of the shout stuff but beth probably said "lol no thanks"

[MelodicCure]

When is the Mass Effect 3 demo coming out? I just finished it and I think they accidentally gave me a Gears of War demo. I love how retarded the roll looks lol.

[jd641]

wijse wrote...

jd641 wrote...

wijse wrote...

If all people actually read what has been discussed, they would know why the lack of holstering animations is not there. It is because of the all the new stuff in the game and because the memory of the consoles can not handle it. Thats what you get with consoles with 7 years old hardware.

Read what Brenon Holmes from Bioware wrote in this thread. 

Sorry but that's pathetic.

Sorry but your reply is pathetic.

It seems that you are carrying on this fine tradition. Thanks!

[Texhnolyze101]

Praetor Shepard wrote...

Brenon Holmes wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

Brenon, could you bring more details into that? It's a RAM memory issue or disc-space file size issue? It's a problem exclusive to the demo or the full game too?

It's a runtime memory cost, not a disk space issue. You need those anims for the non-combat areas... so they're going to be on disk regardless.

In order to support exploration in the combat areas, you'd need to have all the anims loaded in memory... so that would be things like the 8-way walks, runs, incline anims, idles, idle twitches, male/female variant overrides, eye noise... etc.

All in all (iirc) it came out to around 2-4MB, which is relatively significant. Also, as you've guessed, yes - I'm referring to the main game (as well as the demo).

This should help, to know why it's not gonna be in ME3.

Gotta have room for useless gimmicks like kinect right? <_<

[THE LORD HERESY]

If they didn't waste their time with MP, which is something I don't even think they will support a year from now, they could have had the resources to do what needed to be done. Seriously people, more and more companies aren't paying attention to the little things and would prefer to be clones of this title or that title because they think it will sell.

Like I said posts ago, I didn't even play FPS games because the character has his/her gun drawn 24/7 for the entire bleepin game (can we cuss on this board?)

I'm not going to play the demo but I watched maybe 30 seconds of it. It was the part where Anderson and Shepard are on a ledge and they run and climb a ladder. The entire time I'm thinking to myself "He looks like a GD idiot, what the F is this S."

OT:

Let me ask you guys a question. Why is it that the exact same red arrow is in damn near every shooting game? You know the red arrow I'm talking about, it's the one that pops up when you're getting shot and the arrow points in the direction of the enemy. Why is this in damn near every shooter?

Modifié par THE LORD HERESY, 15 février 2012 - 02:28 .

[MelodicCure]

Heavy01 wrote...

HachreEA wrote...

I don't like that the holstering is gone Feels a lot more like Dead Space now running through the 2nd mission..

Don't insult dead space, in dead space Isaac pulls down his gun and just has it ready on his hand, in mass effect 3 shepard just walks around aiming his gun everywhere like a god damn retard.

Maybe a DLC content will come out showing us the back ground story of how Shephard becomes mentally handicapped.  That would be sweet seeing how he rolls around like a mental patient on the ground now,  runs like he has spazams,  and can't remember to put his gun away so he points it at everything infront of him...even his friends.

[Texhnolyze101]

THE LORD HERESY wrote...

If they didn't waste their time with MP, which is something I don't even think they will support a year from now, they could have had the resources to do what needed to be done. Seriously people, more and more companies aren't paying attention to the little things and would prefer to be clones of this title or that title because they think it will sell.

Like I said posts ago, I didn't even play FPS games because the character has his/her gun drawn 24/7 for the entire bleepin game (can we cuss on this board?)

OT:

Let me ask you guys a question. Why is it that the exact same red arrow is in damn near every shooting game? You know the red arrow I'm talking about, it's the one that pops up when you're getting shot and the arrow points in the direction of the enemy. Why is this in damn near every shooter?

Don't blame MP (i don't care for it either) but blame kinect its the REAL useless thing that was added.

[MelodicCure]

THE LORD HERESY wrote...

If they didn't waste their time with MP, which is something I don't even think they will support a year from now, they could have had the resources to do what needed to be done. Seriously people, more and more companies aren't paying attention to the little things and would prefer to be clones of this title or that title because they think it will sell.

Like I said posts ago, I didn't even play FPS games because the character has his/her gun drawn 24/7 for the entire bleepin game (can we cuss on this board?)

I'm not going to play the demo but I watched maybe 30 seconds of it. It was the part where Anderson and Shepard are on a ledge and they run and climb a ladder. The entire time I'm thinking to myself "He looks like a GD idiot, what the F is this S."

OT:

Let me ask you guys a question. Why is it that the exact same red arrow is in damn near every shooting game? You know the red arrow I'm talking about, it's the one that pops up when you're getting shot and the arrow points in the direction of the enemy. Why is this in damn near every shooter?

I agree,  one of the reason that made Human Revolultion so sweet is it was an FPS with a holster option.  After Deus EX HR all other shooters feel old and primitive when I can't do something as simple as that.

[MelodicCure]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

THE LORD HERESY wrote...

If they didn't waste their time with MP, which is something I don't even think they will support a year from now, they could have had the resources to do what needed to be done. Seriously people, more and more companies aren't paying attention to the little things and would prefer to be clones of this title or that title because they think it will sell.

Like I said posts ago, I didn't even play FPS games because the character has his/her gun drawn 24/7 for the entire bleepin game (can we cuss on this board?)

OT:

Let me ask you guys a question. Why is it that the exact same red arrow is in damn near every shooting game? You know the red arrow I'm talking about, it's the one that pops up when you're getting shot and the arrow points in the direction of the enemy. Why is this in damn near every shooter?

Don't blame MP (i don't care for it either) but blame kinect its the REAL useless thing that was added.

I blame Xbox in general.  I've got ****ing 16 gigs of ram...wtf is that piece of ****s excuse? 

[THE LORD HERESY]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Don't blame MP (i don't care for it either) but blame kinect its the REAL useless thing that was added.

Yes, I agree the kinect thing is quite useless. There is no telling how much money M$ shoved in their pockets to do it. "The complete Mass Effect experience, only on XBOX 360." I know thats what happened.

[THE LORD HERESY]

MelodicCure wrote...

I blame Xbox in general.  I've got ****ing 16 gigs of ram...wtf is that piece of ****s excuse? 

I have no idea but I ain't buying it.

one of the reason that made Human Revolultion so sweet is it was an FPS with a holster option.  After Deus EX HR all other shooters feel old and primitive when I can't do something as simple as that.

Q4T

Modifié par THE LORD HERESY, 15 février 2012 - 02:36 .

[Bleachrude]

Again, I'll take combat roll over holstering weapon anytime.

The addition of grenade tossing by enemies is a GREAT feature to gameplay and on insanity has resulted in me shouting "oh crap" more than once.

Without the roll, I'm honestly screwed here...*Tries to imagine ME2 with mercs tossing grenades*..yeah..that' REALLY won't work.

[Praetor Knight]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Gotta have room for useless gimmicks like kinect right? <_<

AFAIK, Kinect shouldn't impact ME3 on that level. And I can't find anything about other games' performance being impacted yet, by Kinect functionality in that way you imply.



So from what I understand, Kinect device seems to handle the translation from receiving a voice command to sending the command to the console so that it can then be executed in the game, so little work seems to be need from Bioware to implement that, IIRC.

[MythicLegands]

Wow if bioware didn't waste resources with Kinect, something useful could have been in the game.

[D Amiri]

walking around with my weapon out during missions doesn't bother me. But the removal of the ability makes me sad because it means that combat only happens on missions after a loading screen. We will never have the ME 1 feeling that if you pick the "wrong" choice in dialog, combat can break out anywhere.