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#651
ZajoE38

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I hope they read our requests. But even if they do, they wasn't able to fix helmets in ME2 for all the time even when masses of people were complaining. No we have helmets solved, but we have this another fatal issue.

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zern0byl

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The helmet thing is small-time compared to this. Often after clearing a room of enemies, i like to look around and see if i left a datapad or perhaps some item / point of interest un-noticed.

I feel like the biggest douche ever looking around the room, pointing my sniper-rifle at everything. Really kills the mood for me.

I also found myself often walking from place A to place B with my weapon holstered, now i find myself sprinting everywhere.

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A patch would be nice.

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ZombifiedJake wrote...

A patch would be nice.


Don't be silly.

All PC gamers are pirates, they deserve nothing more than a sloppy console port with blurry textures, no multiplayer text-chat, horrible fov, no real anti-aliasing and crappy controls (seriously, you'd think the keyboard has enough buttons for a separate "USE" and "take cover" button).

And didn't they say it's due to consoles memory limitations or something?

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ZombifiedJake wrote...

A patch would be nice.


I doubt they would do so... we are not paying a motnhly fee and this is not an mmo unfortunately :(

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Brenon Holmes wrote...

In combat areas, you have your gun out... in more hub-like areas you don't.

It's unfortunate, but sadly it was needed to claw back a significant chunk of memory. :?


Hey Brendan,

I can understand the sacrifice needed with all the new movements, unfortunately it turns Shepard into a toy soldier stuck in that fixed combat position. I noticed when she (in my case) faces a wall or squad mate she'll lower her weapon. Could this possibly be mapped to the 'back' button much like the holster was? Personally I'd give up the quicksave as the combat stance is very stagnant and really does detract from the emersion in the fights.

Thanks!
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Impossibility to holster weapons for me is a show stopper. It was ok in ME1 and ME2. I used it a lot and it was really adding to immersion and "realistic" atmosphere of Sci-Fi game. FoV used a lot in these two titles. As far as it stands with weapons holstering and face import in ME3 its a failure and nowhere near AAA title.

And i didnt even mentioned no "film grain" and lack of decent textures on PC. It looks plastic, it feels false and it takes away a lot of Mass Effect immersion and magic.

Don't start with memory and other issues. For ME1 and ME2 it was alright and for ME3 its a memory issue. Epic failure BIOWARE!

Modifié par Alexbr, 09 mars 2012 - 03:34 .


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A lot of animations are lacking, apparently the PS3 couldn't handle it so superior PC hardware couldn't either.

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Syonco wrote...

 This right here is one of many reasons i decided to pirate this game. This is such a sloppy console port it's not even funny. Sorry to the console crowd, if it really is a hardware limitation -- but pissing on the PC crowd like this does not get you my $60.

Until you learn how to create a game that takes advantages of the PC hardware i'll continue to pirate. ****** off VaporWare.

I am sorry to say this, but that is a childish way of thinking, and also a poor excuse for not paying for the games you play. One of the basic principles of business is that you tailor your product for a paying customer. If you do not pay for your games, you have no right to complain, plain and simple: how can you find faults in something you got for free? And why should BioWare listen to you? Because if they do, you are going to go out and buy their game? Really? Who guarantees that, you? Do you give your scouts' honor?

Anyway, this thread, and many others like it, serve to inform BioWare of our discontent with certain decisions they made while designing this product. We, as paying customers, have the right to voice our opinions. It's why this forums exist. BioWare, on the other hand, have the right to heed them or don't, as they see fit: they made the product, after all. However, a paying customer today may not be one tomorrow. Mass Effect 3 is a finale of the Shepard saga, and as such there was no way I wouldn't buy it. Next BioWare game though? I'll think thrice. But even if I don't buy it, I won't pirate it, either, because that would be a hypocrisy: if you like a game well enough to play it, you owe it to the developer to buy it. End of story.

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shunjalo wrote...

Syonco wrote...

 This right here is one of many reasons i decided to pirate this game. This is such a sloppy console port it's not even funny. Sorry to the console crowd, if it really is a hardware limitation -- but pissing on the PC crowd like this does not get you my $60.

Until you learn how to create a game that takes advantages of the PC hardware i'll continue to pirate. ****** off VaporWare.

I am sorry to say this, but that is a childish way of thinking, and also a poor excuse for not paying for the games you play. One of the basic principles of business is that you tailor your product for a paying customer. If you do not pay for your games, you have no right to complain, plain and simple: how can you find faults in something you got for free? And why should BioWare listen to you? Because if they do, you are going to go out and buy their game? Really? Who guarantees that, you? Do you give your scouts' honor?

Anyway, this thread, and many others like it, serve to inform BioWare of our discontent with certain decisions they made while designing this product. We, as paying customers, have the right to voice our opinions. It's why this forums exist. BioWare, on the other hand, have the right to heed them or don't, as they see fit: they made the product, after all. However, a paying customer today may not be one tomorrow. Mass Effect 3 is a finale of the Shepard saga, and as such there was no way I wouldn't buy it. Next BioWare game though? I'll think thrice. But even if I don't buy it, I won't pirate it, either, because that would be a hypocrisy: if you like a game well enough to play it, you owe it to the developer to buy it. End of story.


Just to quote you there with that bold text.

Me personally would never buy that game if i knew the site saying "Available now" was misleading and i had to wait for 3 days for the game to unlock for me, that's nowhere near "Available now".
If i knew there is no face import from ME1 ME2 to ME3 and i have to use 3rd party sites just to import the face i would not buy it.
If i knew that there is no weapons holstering i would not buy it.

Your "paying customer" rage and aplomb is laughable. I would not buy the game if i knew about all these things in advance, i would wait out for BIOWARE to improve the game to ME1 and ME2 standard or would simply miss it and watch it on youtube. I didnt knew that since EA and BIOWARE did their best to "market" and not mention about these huge showstoppers.

I am a paying customer but i feel cheated to say the least. The game stripped of its magic in half to say the least and i didnt even started to play it because i'm stuck with recreating face of my Shepard and searching the forums for that holstering button.

What that pirate pointed out and wanted to say as i understand is that Mass Effect 3 is nowhere near ready for release status and we, paying customers just fools that we paid for unfinished product stripped of many things that earlier games of the franchise has in favor of console ports. I disagree with piracy and would not resolve to that to play the game but cant blame him for hinting us that we are fools. I feel like a fool.

Modifié par Alexbr, 09 mars 2012 - 04:46 .


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I am dissapointed in this game too, that's why I post complaints about it (if you read the threads about holstering and exploration camera you will see I made numerous posts condemning the decision to remove them and asking for an alternative). However, I don't see how one has the right to "play but not pay". Trying the game out is one thing (there is a demo, after all), but playing it? And bragging about it? Sorry, no. I will not say more about this, because it is an endless topic and would derail the thread.

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I agree with you that piracy is not a solution. I would not resolve to it too. But i cant deny that he is right in part that we paid for the game that ain't ready for PC. The game was stripped of some critical things without which its just not Mass Effect anymore.

I'm playing now and its absolutely not like it was when i switched from ME1 to ME2. It's just not my Shepard in ME3. Its not the way i want to play without holstering and FoV and with so limited dialogue options and choices to make. The game have absolutely great things in it that i love and thank BIOWARE for them. But it's just not Mass Effect RPG/Action i loved so much. Its a different game that resembles Mass Effect :(

Modifié par Alexbr, 09 mars 2012 - 05:15 .


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Brenon Holmes wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

Brenon, could you bring more details into that? It's a RAM memory issue or disc-space file size issue? It's a problem exclusive to the demo or the full game too?


It's a runtime memory cost, not a disk space issue. You need those anims for the non-combat areas... so they're going to be on disk regardless.

In order to support exploration in the combat areas, you'd need to have all the anims loaded in memory... so that would be things like the 8-way walks, runs, incline anims, idles, idle twitches, male/female variant overrides, eye noise... etc.

All in all (iirc) it came out to around 2-4MB, which is relatively significant. Also, as you've guessed, yes - I'm referring to the main game (as well as the demo).


It seems as though you guys compressed a lot of the animations as well, especially in scriptables. Was this primarily to allow for improved texture quality? 

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Just got the game on PC and have played it for 15 minutes. Raged quit as soon as I steped out on Mars and realised I couldn't holster my rifle. I've been looking around and dispite the memory issues on consoles has their been an offical statement from bioware on this issue? Where do they stand?

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I also saved and quit on Mars mission. I hope Bioware fixes this real soon instead of feeding us stories about possible memory issues. Anyone noticed that there is a possibility to have 128GB of memory on PC? RAM that is. But something tells me 8GB will be by far more then enough for holstering and face import altogether.

Loaded ME1 to play. Feels like Sci-Fi RPG triple A class and not like class B shooter for consoles that we got recently.

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Fussing about not being able to holster your weapon? Seriously? Kids these days. I bet your mommy bought ME3 for you.

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Alexbr wrote...

I'm playing now and its absolutely not like it was when i switched from ME1 to ME2. It's just not my Shepard in ME3. Its not the way i want to play without holstering and FoV and with so limited dialogue options and choices to make. The game have absolutely great things in it that i love and thank BIOWARE for them. But it's just not Mass Effect RPG/Action i loved so much. Its a different game that resembles Mass Effect :(

I agree 100%. The limited dialogue choices (you can "feel" the points where choice should be made, but isn't), too narrow FOV, no holstering (bugs me a lot), sub-par journal, crude animations... it all points to a conclusion that BioWare has bitten more that they can chew. That's why I think it's important to sound off. If BioWare have any shred of respect left for it's players, they should take the time to address as much of criticism as is technically possible. Dialogue is already recorded, but the rest? The rest could technically be patched. Will it be? Only BioWare knows, and they play mute. However, I know they read this forums (even if they don't sound off), and I know they are aware of the criticism expressed by the players. That's why I keep posting. Hope dies last, right?

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I completely agree with most of the people here. Not being able to holster the weapon or lowering it is just silly and ruins a great deal of atmosphere of an otherwise great game.

It really looks as if Shephard is just a stupid shooterfigure stuck in this stupid pose.

That and the reason that it´s now really hard to get a good look of the surroundings is what ruins the experience.

But I bet that Bioware won´t do anything about it. They probably won´t even comment on this problem. It´s just sad.

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Well that will take some getting use to.

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It´s just plain lazy from Bioware.

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God. I hate it when i have an amazing view, and i can't look around it properly. Imagine standing on the edge of a mountain, POINTING YOUR GUN FORWARDS. Christs sakes, this is really killing a great deal of athmosphere for me.

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zern0byl wrote...

God. I hate it when i have an amazing view, and i can't look around it properly. Imagine standing on the edge of a mountain, POINTING YOUR GUN FORWARDS. Christs sakes, this is really killing a great deal of athmosphere for me.


Yes, yes yes. It's about atmosphere and immersion for me. Not for everyone I know, just was a real neat way that added enjoyment to my game experience. 

Still love the game, but when I noticed they took it out - /disappointed 

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The lack of holstering really, really bothered me initially, but 12 hours in the game and its a total non issue. I've embraced the bizarre running animations too....the good in this game so far outweighs this kinda stuff that its very forgivable.

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On the PS3 ME2 had the holster weapon button was Select but now ME3 every time I push it it auto saves I know this is a good thing to have a auto save button but I want my holster weapon button back lol I want to see my armor and stuff when in the field sucks you can't look at armor when in hubs like the Cit! you only have Casual clothes on...  I will /sign for patch but if it won't happen its not a huge deal just sucks o well

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Brenon holmes, thank you for answering people's concerns. I hope now people would stop going on about this subject.