BioWare HAS confirmed on these forums that there IS a trial....it was Mr. Priestly I believe if I remember correctly that has posted this.
I guess the lack of confirmation confirms that the intro in the demo is
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 07:47
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There isn't any conclusive evidence that the demo intro is the game intro.
It would make sense if it was, minus some parts. They wouldnt make an entirely separate demo that has nothing to do with the game, and they would not put the demo in the middle where it would be hard to omit spoilers. It is most likely the beginning.
Ironically the Dead Space 2 Demo is actually set in Chapter five out of fifteen chapters, not the beginning. However, I think the demo follows what the beta intro was too, so.
From my perspective the demo would be fine, but I see why someone not familiar or someone waiting on explanations would be arise. However, this is what happens when you allow your IP to be written off into Comics and Novels.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 07:50
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matt-bassist wrote...
...the actual intro of the game.
players of the demo, professional reviewers - everyone has said the same thing: "the intro feels rushed and confusing."
i fail to believe that BioWare wouldn't catch how poorly paced the intro is. i just can't bring myself to believe it - but the leaked demo AND the official demo all start at the same place - and no dev confirmation of a trial (or anything) before the demo start point leaves us with only one conclusion:
where the demo starts is where the game starts. good luck to new players because they are gonna be so confused, and a wasted opportunity for import-players to refresh their choices.
And here we go again, someone mistaking their opinion with fact. Everyone huh? IF this is the actual beginning, I love it. Adore it. Want the rest of the game. I'm excited. Stoked. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't start off your thread trying to make an impression that the feeling is a universal "it sucks". You couldn't possibly be more wrong.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 07:50
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Darth_Trethon wrote...
BioWare HAS confirmed on these forums that there IS a trial....it was Mr. Priestly I believe if I remember correctly that has posted this.
You realize the Dev team misinforms people?
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 07:57
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Darth_Trethon wrote...
BioWare HAS confirmed on these forums that there IS a trial....it was Mr. Priestly I believe if I remember correctly that has posted this.
That trial could be the hearing we see right before the Reapers attack. It would be an extremely crappy interpretation but a possibly correct one.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 07:58
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@incinerator950 Yes at times they do but I've been around long enough to know when they are missinforming and Mr. Priestly hasn't blatantly and deliberately lied, he'll just make ambiguous and vague statements that can easily make you jump to the wrong assumption but when he says something clearly and directly it's generally the truth.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 08:03
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@AlphaJarmel yes....if there is a hearing that could be it but I haven't seen the demo intro yet and I likely won't until the 17th or 18th....life and all getting in the way.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 08:03
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Honestly I don't care, new people to the game series are either picking this up to play a fun shooter or to bang Jessica Chobot.
People who are following the series know what is happening and that's all that matters.
People who are following the series know what is happening and that's all that matters.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 08:14
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I'm fully approving of the "screw new players" sentiment....if they want to know they better back up and start with ME1.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 08:16
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He should also realize that Chris isn't a Dev.incinerator950 wrote...
Darth_Trethon wrote...
BioWare HAS confirmed on these forums that there IS a trial....it was Mr. Priestly I believe if I remember correctly that has posted this.
You realize the Dev team misinforms people?
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 08:17
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I'm telling you guys, I remember a dev tweeting that there wasn't going to be a trial. Check the twitter thread it's bound to be in there. I know what I saw.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 08:21
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Well If that's true I guess the hearing is it....at any rate I saw someone mentioned they didn't know how Vega met Shep.....you might want to google an awesome and free little 8 page comic called Mass Effect: Conviction.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 08:32
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I'm telling you guys, I remember a dev tweeting that there wasn't going to be a trial. Check the twitter thread it's bound to be in there. I know what I saw.
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Yes, because we all know a dev tweet is gospel.... (not)...
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 08:35
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I'm thinking they are trying to leave things as ambiguous as possible as to not risk anymore spoilers. Not to mention said trial could have numerous variations based on what career your Sheperd has had.
Get a gist of the intro of the game, and then a taste of the Salarian homeworld mission and leave you hungry for the real, whole game.
Just my 2 cents.
Get a gist of the intro of the game, and then a taste of the Salarian homeworld mission and leave you hungry for the real, whole game.
Just my 2 cents.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 09:03
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The thing is, the beginning as seen in the demo and that leaked footage from late last year definitely seems structured as an opening and very much feels like one. You couldn't have much more than that or it would be too long for an opening, given when the logo appears. For an intro it seems about the right length, but the problem is that it's not particularly well handled given that it's the third part and feels rushed.
I know a lot of this is probably due to expectations given early dev comments such as those in the GameInformer magazine early last year, and that because of that a lot of us were expecting an actual, proper trial to at least begin and perhaps reflect some of our Shepard's decisions and past deeds, etc.. As it stands it definitely does feel rushed, isolated and that not enough questions are answered. Why does Shepard know Vega to some degree already? Where are Garrus, Tali, etc. if we still had them at the end of ME2? What's the story for those of us who made Anderson Councilor? (ie. is there at least an explanation from him for it to fit that he no longer is somewhere?). On top of it all, it seems to just get to The Reapers landing far too quickly and doesn't really get to establish anything; it's just, "Bam! In there! GO!". The overall lack of any non-automated dialogue is a concern as well.
I know a lot of this is probably due to expectations given early dev comments such as those in the GameInformer magazine early last year, and that because of that a lot of us were expecting an actual, proper trial to at least begin and perhaps reflect some of our Shepard's decisions and past deeds, etc.. As it stands it definitely does feel rushed, isolated and that not enough questions are answered. Why does Shepard know Vega to some degree already? Where are Garrus, Tali, etc. if we still had them at the end of ME2? What's the story for those of us who made Anderson Councilor? (ie. is there at least an explanation from him for it to fit that he no longer is somewhere?). On top of it all, it seems to just get to The Reapers landing far too quickly and doesn't really get to establish anything; it's just, "Bam! In there! GO!". The overall lack of any non-automated dialogue is a concern as well.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 09:18
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unless i'm missing something in my demo, we're all lacking a starting comic that bioware has said they will include for all new players
i think narrative wise the into will be less jarring / confusing with said inclusion assuming it's the same quality as the PS3 comic for ME2 that I saw. if u're a returning player and finds the intro confusing then i dont have any comment
i think narrative wise the into will be less jarring / confusing with said inclusion assuming it's the same quality as the PS3 comic for ME2 that I saw. if u're a returning player and finds the intro confusing then i dont have any comment
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 09:18
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Unato wrote...
unless i'm missing something in my demo, we're all lacking a starting comic that bioware has said they will include for all new players
i think narrative wise the into will be less jarring / confusing with said inclusion assuming it's the same quality as the PS3 comic for ME2 that I saw. if u're a returning player and finds the intro confusing then i dont have any comment
Its excluded from the demo for space concerns.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 09:21
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BioWare never said there would be a comic this time.Unato wrote...
unless i'm missing something in my demo, we're all lacking a starting comic that bioware has said they will include for all new players
i think narrative wise the into will be less jarring / confusing with said inclusion assuming it's the same quality as the PS3 comic for ME2 that I saw. if u're a returning player and finds the intro confusing then i dont have any comment
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 09:23
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He should also realize that Chris isn't a Dev.incinerator950 wrote...
Darth_Trethon wrote...
BioWare HAS confirmed on these forums that there IS a trial....it was Mr. Priestly I believe if I remember correctly that has posted this.
You realize the Dev team misinforms people?
Chris is the devs' facial orifice. He says things they want to.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 09:25
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If somebody gets confused by the intro, then they are too young/dumb to play video games anyway.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 09:31
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Anderson said in the demo: "Any other soldier would have been tried, court martial, and discharged." That implies that there was no trial. The Alliance brass merely grounded Shepard.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 09:37
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This demo was with a "new-player profile" people...
Shepard and Anderson would've talked about the Batarian deaths otherwise.
This demo was with a "new-player profile" people...
Shepard and Anderson would've talked about the Batarian deaths otherwise.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 09:37
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I suppose what I really found most jarring was this implied gap in time and the cordial way he greets Vega. For the first time ever since Shepard walked towards the cockpit of the SR1, it seemed like I'd completely lost control of Shepard. I felt quite helpless there when this canonically unknown character entered the room, as if I really should've be saying is "Who the **** are you?"
Not a nice feeling for someone who takes their role-playing pretty seriously.
Not a nice feeling for someone who takes their role-playing pretty seriously.
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Posté 12 février 2012 - 09:41
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I think people are confusing the word "rushed" with the concept of "fast paced".
The demo is slick, polished, fantastic. Dialogue choices are removed to streamline the experience and get new players interested without talking their ears off with too much 'blah blah blah'. Returning players see some favorites and enjoy revamped powersets and a faster, stronger Shepard.
It's face paced, frantic action. The world's coming to an end.
If this was a game about an earthquake ripping apart a city, or a hurricane destroying a town, would people still say it's "rushed"?
Reapers wouldn't hang around in orbit because one small insignificant human being can't figure out how to run around with a pistol. They're here to wipe out all life, they're not going to wait. Shepard better get moving, there's a whole galaxy to save!
The demo is slick, polished, fantastic. Dialogue choices are removed to streamline the experience and get new players interested without talking their ears off with too much 'blah blah blah'. Returning players see some favorites and enjoy revamped powersets and a faster, stronger Shepard.
It's face paced, frantic action. The world's coming to an end.
If this was a game about an earthquake ripping apart a city, or a hurricane destroying a town, would people still say it's "rushed"?
Reapers wouldn't hang around in orbit because one small insignificant human being can't figure out how to run around with a pistol. They're here to wipe out all life, they're not going to wait. Shepard better get moving, there's a whole galaxy to save!
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