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jreezy wrote...

lukex38 wrote...

hasnt it been almost a year since the end of ME2 so, if the demo intro is the full game intro, that then is retarded,

in the time frame of say an hour you have gone from having a small chat with some alliance people, too killing husks, then the mission after the first, is on the red planet, trying too find something

I don't get it. What's your problem here?

 when you watch the demo, its way too rushed, i was like WTF where is all the talking and such,
if you get a longer intro if you import save, thats good but if this is the intro, its just ah, too rushed, jarring, , i want too see/know what has happened since ME2, how shep came too be on earth, whats going on with the trial, how the alliance got there hands on the sr2,
i just want too know if there is going too be a longer intro for people who have played the first two

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personally, i thought the intro was very tame. i was expecting the arrival of the reapers to be bat **** crazy. it wasnt. shepard reintroduces himself, the reapers attack, shepard kills a handfull of noob footsodleirs, shepard easily flies away amidst the destruction. very much a lesser experience then i was expecting.

i was imagining ME3 starting like saving private ryan started. huge blockbuster set pieces and awesome non stop action to the point where you think "am i done with the intro yet?" and then barely escaping with my tail between my legs because the reapers are so powerful.

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i don't think the demo is an indication of the start of the game. i believe Bioware have said that there is a trial/hearing that shepard has to attend. since that scene was missing from the demo i think there is more to the start of the game than what the demo shows.

also, if you listen to some of the dialogues between shepard and anderson, it seems to hint that the committee "grounded" shepard. i suspect that may have taken place during shepard's trial/hearing.

lastly, at the start of the demo, you see the alliance fleet in earth orbit. at the end of the demo when the normandy is leaving earth, you see the fleet has been totally destroyed. i suspect the fleet's destruction scene is skipped in the demo.

it looks like Bioware have just taken the E3 demo and released it to the general population - with a few additions. the start of the final build of the game is probably more epic.

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The pacing is definitely rushed, as is evidenced by the fact that so many people seem to agree. There's very little lead-up to the action, ignoring the fact that most players won't even know who Vega is, why Shepard is being tried, or why the Reapers are already attacking Earth in the intro.

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The intro is totally good.

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Did y'all really expect a 10 to 20 minute hardcore exposion intro to fit inside a size-limited demo?

The naivete in this thread is delicious.

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Femlob wrote...

Did y'all really expect a 10 to 20 minute hardcore exposion intro to fit inside a size-limited demo?

The naivete in this thread is delicious.


The naivete lies with you expecting the  full game intro to be any different.

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Femlob wrote...

Did y'all really expect a 10 to 20 minute hardcore exposion intro to fit inside a size-limited demo?

The naivete in this thread is delicious.


Not sure it's an issue of naivete. People just want to know what's what.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 12 février 2012 - 04:52 .


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I sure hope the intro will be longer / different in the actual game. The demo's intro feels way too short, rushed and stuff is unexplained. I do think that it's a cut intro for the demo though, it would make sense somehow. The second mission also seems heavily cut down, so it wouldn't surprise me. Since the demo also doesn't seem like a final build and has a few glitches, the final game will probably be different. I would also like ME3 to start on the Normandy. So far every game started on the Normandy and I would hate this "tradition" to be broken. Only way to find out is a dev confirmation or to wait till release though I guess.

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Obviously it's not going to confuse people on here that know every single detail of the Mass Effect universe. But I can easily see how it would confuse someone who isn't 100% familiar. The large gap between ME2 to ME3 without so much as a description or mention of what happened will leave many people feeling like they missed something big.

I don't want to go on about this too much so I'll just say I agree with everything in the original post. I hope Bioware weighs in on this.

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Knight of Bronze wrote...

It would be from the perspective of some one that has never played Mass Effect.

OFC IDK WHY those people would even buy ME3. But there is a reason for what their saying. (Its just not a very good one in my opinion.)


Lol, as any hyped game, people will buy them even if they didn't play the previous games in the series. Just take a look at Skyrim, lots of players didn't any any previous TES games but they still bought skyrim. I mean I understand what you're saying, seeing as how ME series is story driven, but people still buy games that they see being hailed as GOTY by numerous websites, the power of advertising =).

IMO the intro was alright, I mean if someone played previous games and DLCs, they would be expecting something like this. However, if its someone brand new to the series and only got a demo code bcuz well, its a demo, then they wouldn't know whats going on at all. I do like this format, seeing as how we don't have to wait for BioWare to finish explaining to the new players whats happening, rather it just launches us into the story right away. Maybe its BioWare's way of catering to their old fanbase, but to me, its a good move.

Modifié par hawkens982, 12 février 2012 - 04:57 .


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Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Femlob wrote...

Did y'all really expect a 10 to 20 minute hardcore exposion intro to fit inside a size-limited demo?

The naivete in this thread is delicious.


The naivete lies with you expecting the  full game intro to be any different.


That's assuming that I'm expecting anything at all, which is really assuming that I care about this petty sh*t as much as you do. Both assumptions are false.

Logic dictates that things were either cut from, or not implemented in, the demo to make it fit within the size limit; common sense says that if it's not shown before the action starts it'll be talked about and/or flashback'd on the Normandy.

Don't get your panties in a bunch. Or actually, do get your panties in a bunch - it's more fun for people who don't lose their sh*t when something doesn't play out the way one expected.

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It seems like Bioware could confirm things for us by simply saying "the way the demo starts is not the way the game itself does". This doesn't give away any spoilers.

Also, I think the idea people have brought up the the Trial might be cut out for new people makes a lot of sense.

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izmirtheastarach wrote...

It seems like Bioware could confirm things for us by simply saying "the way the demo starts is not the way the game itself does". This doesn't give away any spoilers.

Also, I think the idea people have brought up the the Trial might be cut out for new people makes a lot of sense.


They could. But why bother? The game'll be on the shelves in a couple of weeks. People who go nuts over things in a demo won't calm down anyway - they'll just find something else to complain about.

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Femlob wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

It seems like Bioware could confirm things for us by simply saying "the way the demo starts is not the way the game itself does". This doesn't give away any spoilers.

Also, I think the idea people have brought up the the Trial might be cut out for new people makes a lot of sense.


They could. But why bother? The game'll be on the shelves in a couple of weeks. People who go nuts over things in a demo won't calm down anyway - they'll just find something else to complain about.


I wish you'd try and cut down on the
condescension  and rudeness. Acting like a jerk doesn't really contribute anything. I'm referring to your previuos post, not this one. I know some people are just throwing out crazy demands and proclamations, but other are just trying to discuss the subject rationally.

I don't really care all that much, I was just looking forward to defending myself in a trial scene, since they've been talking about it since the middle of last year. Sounded like fun.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 12 février 2012 - 05:34 .


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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Femlob wrote...

izmirtheastarach wrote...

It seems like Bioware could confirm things for us by simply saying "the way the demo starts is not the way the game itself does". This doesn't give away any spoilers.

Also, I think the idea people have brought up the the Trial might be cut out for new people makes a lot of sense.


They could. But why bother? The game'll be on the shelves in a couple of weeks. People who go nuts over things in a demo won't calm down anyway - they'll just find something else to complain about.


I wish you'd try and cut down on the condescention and rudeness. Acting like a jerk doesn't really contribute anything. I'm referring to your previuos post, not this one. I know some people are just throwing out crazy demands and proclamations, but other are just trying to discuss the subject rationally.

I don't really care all that much, I was just looking forward to defending myself in a trial scene, since they've been talking about it since the middle of last year. Sounded like fun.


I'll gladly cut down on condescention and rudeness when people stop being ****ing idiots. As it is, condescention and rudeness is the least they've got coming; if I had my way, they'd be strapped to rockets and launched into the sun. They're a waste of oxygen.

BioWare said there'd be a trial; unless there's official confirmation that it's been cut, I see no reason to assume why it wouldn't be in the final game. And if it turns out it won't be in the final game after all - well, tough luck, really. It's not the end of the world.

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Femlob wrote...

I'll gladly cut down on condescention and rudeness when people stop being ****ing idiots. As it is, condescention and rudeness is the least they've got coming; if I had my way, they'd be strapped to rockets and launched into the sun. They're a waste of oxygen.

BioWare said there'd be a trial; unless there's official confirmation that it's been cut, I see no reason to assume why it wouldn't be in the final game. And if it turns out it won't be in the final game after all - well, tough luck, really. It's not the end of the world.


It's just that when you make a post like that, you seem to be referring to every single person in the thread. The just the OP who made a sweeping declaraton, but everyone who tried to actually talk about it.

I certainly agree with you that it's not the end of the world. I thought the way the demo started worked pretty well. But I'm still curious. I think I'd enjoy a trial scene.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 12 février 2012 - 05:24 .


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izmirtheastarach wrote...

Femlob wrote...

I'll gladly cut down on condescention and rudeness when people stop being ****ing idiots. As it is, condescention and rudeness is the least they've got coming; if I had my way, they'd be strapped to rockets and launched into the sun. They're a waste of oxygen.

BioWare said there'd be a trial; unless there's official confirmation that it's been cut, I see no reason to assume why it wouldn't be in the final game. And if it turns out it won't be in the final game after all - well, tough luck, really. It's not the end of the world.


It's just that when you make a post like that, you seem to be referring to every single person in the thread. The just the OP who made a sweeping declaraton, but everyone who tried to actually talk about it.

I certainly agree with you that it's not the end of the world. I thought the way the demo started worked pretty well. But I'm still curious. I think I'd enjoy a trial scene.


I only refer to people who feel my observations apply to them.

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Femlob wrote...

I only refer to people who feel my observations apply to them.


Fair enough.

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If you're going to indulge in condescension, you could at least spell it right.

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Seems to me that, for those of us who import a game save with Arrival completed, the characters will make reference to the end of that dlc and the opening will be adjusted accordingly. I remember reading somewhere that the game assumes you've completed all the ME2 dlc even if you didn't, so the odds are that the demo didn't go into specifics because it's simply that: a demo, which doesn't have a save import feature.

That's just my opinion though, no need to go spreading it around.

Modifié par Cohesion, 12 février 2012 - 05:34 .


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didymos1120 wrote...

If you're going to indulge in condescension, you could at least spell it right.


Sure. Maybe I'll apply for American citizenship while I'm at it.

#148
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Femlob wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

If you're going to indulge in condescension, you could at least spell it right.


Sure. Maybe I'll apply for American citizenship while I'm at it.


To be fair, I'm the one who spelled it wrong. 

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Femlob wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

If you're going to indulge in condescension, you could at least spell it right.


Sure. Maybe I'll apply for American citizenship while I'm at it.


What does that even mean?  This isn't a colour/color situation.

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