izmirtheastarach wrote...
GIJooTheWarHero wrote...
Also, I just thought of this...maybe Ashley/Kaiden's promotions were because of their new Spectre status? Or something.
Shepard didn't recieve a promotion when he became a Spectre.
incinerator950 wrote...
Yes, similarities there too. She goes from the top Enlisted Rank, to an Officer's comission and four officer ranks...in six months. The problem was Anderson listed her rank as Operations Chief in ME 2. ME 3 she goes to Lt. Commander.
She obviously wasn't going to resign or retire, but still.
Kaiden heads off the 1st Special Operations Biotic Company, or its training. I figure thats were his promotion to Major comes in.
izmirtheastarach wrote...
Well, at least my universe makes more sense. The one were Ashley is dead. Kaidan was a Staff Lieutenant in ME1. I assume he was promoted after the Battle of the Citadel. Then he makes Staff Commander after his next tour and gets sent to Horizon. Still kind of fuzzy on how he managed to turn losing a third of the colony while spending half his time paralyzed be seeker swarms into a promotion to Major. But whatever. The Alliance brass is dumb.
izmirtheastarach wrote...
GIJooTheWarHero wrote...
Also, I just thought of this...maybe Ashley/Kaiden's promotions were because of their new Spectre status? Or something.
Shepard didn't recieve a promotion when he became a Spectre.
FeralEwok wrote...
incinerator950 wrote...
Yes, similarities there too. She goes from the top Enlisted Rank, to an Officer's comission and four officer ranks...in six months. The problem was Anderson listed her rank as Operations Chief in ME 2. ME 3 she goes to Lt. Commander.
She obviously wasn't going to resign or retire, but still.
Kaiden heads off the 1st Special Operations Biotic Company, or its training. I figure thats were his promotion to Major comes in.
Didn't know that about Kaidan. Since he leading/training that unit then it stands to reason he needs recieve a promotion. Not very often a LT is ever commanding officer of a whole company. If he or she is then they are either a stand in or they are about to get promoted. Major's usually end up become Batallion XOs...but this isn't regular military units we are talking about so there is some flexibility on BW's part.
Basically once you enter the special operations field for military units the rules can and usually will bend alot more than your average ground pounder units. They will elevate and promote if they deem it necessary. Their are always exceptions/waivers blah blah blah...I don't think BW put THAT much thought or research into it. But since Ash/Kaidan isn't some admiral now with their own fleet I am not going to complain.
FeralEwok wrote...
incinerator950 wrote...
Yes, similarities there too. She goes from the top Enlisted Rank, to an Officer's comission and four officer ranks...in six months. The problem was Anderson listed her rank as Operations Chief in ME 2. ME 3 she goes to Lt. Commander.
She obviously wasn't going to resign or retire, but still.
Kaiden heads off the 1st Special Operations Biotic Company, or its training. I figure thats were his promotion to Major comes in.
Didn't know that about Kaidan. Since he leading/training that unit then it stands to reason he needs recieve a promotion. Not very often a LT is ever commanding officer of a whole company. If he or she is then they are either a stand in or they are about to get promoted. Major's usually end up become Batallion XOs...but this isn't regular military units we are talking about so there is some flexibility on BW's part.
Basically once you enter the special operations field for military units the rules can and usually will bend alot more than your average ground pounder units. They will elevate and promote if they deem it necessary. Their are always exceptions/waivers blah blah blah...I don't think BW put THAT much thought or research into it. But since Ash/Kaidan isn't some admiral now with their own fleet I am not going to complain.
Prom001 wrote...
izmirtheastarach wrote...
Well, at least my universe makes more sense. The one were Ashley is dead. Kaidan was a Staff Lieutenant in ME1. I assume he was promoted after the Battle of the Citadel. Then he makes Staff Commander after his next tour and gets sent to Horizon. Still kind of fuzzy on how he managed to turn losing a third of the colony while spending half his time paralyzed be seeker swarms into a promotion to Major. But whatever. The Alliance brass is dumb.
A lil bit quick but i guess that makes sense.
Ash thing on the other hand.
How long does a academy where an NCO gets a commission as an officer take?
FeralEwok wrote...
Didn't know that about Kaidan. Since he leading/training that unit then it stands to reason he needs recieve a promotion. Not very often a LT is ever commanding officer of a whole company. If he or she is then they are either a stand in or they are about to get promoted. Major's usually end up become Batallion XOs...but this isn't regular military units we are talking about so there is some flexibility on BW's part.
Basically once you enter the special operations field for military units the rules can and usually will bend alot more than your average ground pounder units. They will elevate and promote if they deem it necessary. Their are always exceptions/waivers blah blah blah...I don't think BW put THAT much thought or research into it. But since Ash/Kaidan isn't some admiral now with their own fleet I am not going to complain.
FeralEwok wrote...
incinerator950 wrote...
Yes, similarities there too. She goes from the top Enlisted Rank, to an Officer's comission and four officer ranks...in six months. The problem was Anderson listed her rank as Operations Chief in ME 2. ME 3 she goes to Lt. Commander.
She obviously wasn't going to resign or retire, but still.
Kaiden heads off the 1st Special Operations Biotic Company, or its training. I figure thats were his promotion to Major comes in.
Didn't know that about Kaidan. Since he leading/training that unit then it stands to reason he needs recieve a promotion. Not very often a LT is ever commanding officer of a whole company. If he or she is then they are either a stand in or they are about to get promoted. Major's usually end up become Batallion XOs...but this isn't regular military units we are talking about so there is some flexibility on BW's part.
Basically once you enter the special operations field for military units the rules can and usually will bend alot more than your average ground pounder units. They will elevate and promote if they deem it necessary. Their are always exceptions/waivers blah blah blah...I don't think BW put THAT much thought or research into it. But since Ash/Kaidan isn't some admiral now with their own fleet I am not going to complain.
incinerator950 wrote...
Prom001 wrote...
izmirtheastarach wrote...
Well, at least my universe makes more sense. The one were Ashley is dead. Kaidan was a Staff Lieutenant in ME1. I assume he was promoted after the Battle of the Citadel. Then he makes Staff Commander after his next tour and gets sent to Horizon. Still kind of fuzzy on how he managed to turn losing a third of the colony while spending half his time paralyzed be seeker swarms into a promotion to Major. But whatever. The Alliance brass is dumb.
A lil bit quick but i guess that makes sense.
Ash thing on the other hand.
How long does a academy where an NCO gets a commission as an officer take?
Cadet training takes over a year. I don't know about NCO's, they usually have Warrant Officer training as well.
izmirtheastarach wrote...
FeralEwok wrote...
Didn't know that about Kaidan. Since he leading/training that unit then it stands to reason he needs recieve a promotion. Not very often a LT is ever commanding officer of a whole company. If he or she is then they are either a stand in or they are about to get promoted. Major's usually end up become Batallion XOs...but this isn't regular military units we are talking about so there is some flexibility on BW's part.
Basically once you enter the special operations field for military units the rules can and usually will bend alot more than your average ground pounder units. They will elevate and promote if they deem it necessary. Their are always exceptions/waivers blah blah blah...I don't think BW put THAT much thought or research into it. But since Ash/Kaidan isn't some admiral now with their own fleet I am not going to complain.
Maybe in my canon I'll call him a Brevet Major.
I do want to point out that apparently Bioware could have made the ranks in this game makes a lot more sense if they had spent an hour consulting you.
Now I must sleep. Argument over for me because Ashey is dead.
izmirtheastarach wrote...
Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...
Through outstanding action, a person can be promoted quickly. Like being instrumental in the saving of an entire universe.
So..Ash/Kaidan was bumped up two or three ranks for completely failing to protect Horizon? Hmmmm.
Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 12 février 2012 - 09:15 .
Prom001 wrote...
How long does a academy where an NCO gets a commission as an officer take?
incinerator950 wrote...
Kaiden got promoted to Staff Commander in ME 2, over Shepard being a Lt. Commander. In ME 3, he becomes a Spectre, and Commands a Special Operations company for Biotics sounds more reasonable.
I'll agree on the Admiral Part, which is why I'm against Tali getting on the AB.
EternalAmbiguity wrote...
CerberusSoldier wrote...
Its a joke there is no way someone can jump 4 ranks in a year
You DO realize this is a game right? Made by people who've never been in the military?
GIJooTheWarHero wrote...
incinerator950 wrote...
Prom001 wrote...
izmirtheastarach wrote...
Well, at least my universe makes more sense. The one were Ashley is dead. Kaidan was a Staff Lieutenant in ME1. I assume he was promoted after the Battle of the Citadel. Then he makes Staff Commander after his next tour and gets sent to Horizon. Still kind of fuzzy on how he managed to turn losing a third of the colony while spending half his time paralyzed be seeker swarms into a promotion to Major. But whatever. The Alliance brass is dumb.
A lil bit quick but i guess that makes sense.
Ash thing on the other hand.
How long does a academy where an NCO gets a commission as an officer take?
Cadet training takes over a year. I don't know about NCO's, they usually have Warrant Officer training as well.
The Alliance Navy doesn't have warrant officers, much like the Air Force.
FeralEwok wrote...
Prom001 wrote...
How long does a academy where an NCO gets a commission as an officer take?
US Army OCS takes about 12 weeks for training. But it's the Alliance so it could be very different.incinerator950 wrote...
Kaiden got promoted to Staff Commander in ME 2, over Shepard being a Lt. Commander. In ME 3, he becomes a Spectre, and Commands a Special Operations company for Biotics sounds more reasonable.
I'll agree on the Admiral Part, which is why I'm against Tali getting on the AB.
I would give Tali more leeway simply because it is the Floatilla. She has helped save the galaxy AND their Floatilla. Since they are a smaller and more tigh-knit community I'm sure if there was a large consensus they would make some exception...Though I have no idea what her qualifications are other than the fact that Tali is more special to the players because of our own relationship to her...and not the Floatilla...
On second thought yeah I think it's kinda stupid.
incinerator950 wrote...
No Brevet Major rank, also a Major is the equivilant of an Alliance Navy Captain. I can post the Alliance Rank structure from the codex, but you already read it. Night.
FeralEwok wrote...
Prom001 wrote...
How long does a academy where an NCO gets a commission as an officer take?
US Army OCS takes about 12 weeks for training. But it's the Alliance so it could be very different.incinerator950 wrote...
Kaiden got promoted to Staff Commander in ME 2, over Shepard being a Lt. Commander. In ME 3, he becomes a Spectre, and Commands a Special Operations company for Biotics sounds more reasonable.
I'll agree on the Admiral Part, which is why I'm against Tali getting on the AB.
I would give Tali more leeway simply because it is the Floatilla. She has helped save the galaxy AND their Floatilla. Since they are a smaller and more tigh-knit community I'm sure if there was a large consensus they would make some exception...Though I have no idea what her qualifications are other than the fact that Tali is more special to the players because of our own relationship to her...and not the Floatilla...
On second thought yeah I think it's kinda stupid.
Modifié par incinerator950, 12 février 2012 - 09:17 .
incinerator950 wrote...
GIJooTheWarHero wrote...
incinerator950 wrote...
Prom001 wrote...
izmirtheastarach wrote...
Well, at least my universe makes more sense. The one were Ashley is dead. Kaidan was a Staff Lieutenant in ME1. I assume he was promoted after the Battle of the Citadel. Then he makes Staff Commander after his next tour and gets sent to Horizon. Still kind of fuzzy on how he managed to turn losing a third of the colony while spending half his time paralyzed be seeker swarms into a promotion to Major. But whatever. The Alliance brass is dumb.
A lil bit quick but i guess that makes sense.
Ash thing on the other hand.
How long does a academy where an NCO gets a commission as an officer take?
Cadet training takes over a year. I don't know about NCO's, they usually have Warrant Officer training as well.
The Alliance Navy doesn't have warrant officers, much like the Air Force.
Oh I know, I was stating from real life points.
izmirtheastarach wrote...
incinerator950 wrote...
No Brevet Major rank, also a Major is the equivilant of an Alliance Navy Captain. I can post the Alliance Rank structure from the codex, but you already read it. Night.
Not sure you know what a Brevet is, so we'll just leave that alone.
Modifié par incinerator950, 12 février 2012 - 09:19 .
GIJooTheWarHero wrote...
incinerator950 wrote...
GIJooTheWarHero wrote...
incinerator950 wrote...
Prom001 wrote...
izmirtheastarach wrote...
Well, at least my universe makes more sense. The one were Ashley is dead. Kaidan was a Staff Lieutenant in ME1. I assume he was promoted after the Battle of the Citadel. Then he makes Staff Commander after his next tour and gets sent to Horizon. Still kind of fuzzy on how he managed to turn losing a third of the colony while spending half his time paralyzed be seeker swarms into a promotion to Major. But whatever. The Alliance brass is dumb.
A lil bit quick but i guess that makes sense.
Ash thing on the other hand.
How long does a academy where an NCO gets a commission as an officer take?
Cadet training takes over a year. I don't know about NCO's, they usually have Warrant Officer training as well.
The Alliance Navy doesn't have warrant officers, much like the Air Force.
Oh I know, I was stating from real life points.
Oh, there was some disconnect in my thinking then. He asked how long it would take to get a promotion from the academy in ME and you said a year, I thought you were literally talking about the Grissom Academy (I'm guessing, pretty sure Anderson went there). You mean cadet as in US military academy. Adding up all the training they do outside of the four year degree, right?
Not necessarily, they could have made them the same rank by demoting Shepard a few ranks. After all, he did kill 300,000 people, and eradicate 3 intelligent species if he's renegade. The fact that Alliance and US navy ranks are quite similar keeps coming up, and Lisa Nowak got demoted from Captain to Commander in the US Navy. All she did was go on a cross country car trip in a diaper and try to kidnap her love rival.CerberusSoldier wrote...
I disagree Bioware made a choice to deal with military officers and rank in this game . They should have noticed that there is no way in hell Shepard can have the same rank as Ashley . Shepard should have been promoted in game with the real rank of Commander and not Lt Commander .
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