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[CerberusSoldier]

General User wrote...

As long as they don't interfere with Shepard's mission(s)/operation(s) what does it matter who commands the Normandy?

Isn't Shepard better suited for being the overall mission commander than any particular ship's commanding officer any way?

   


Oh it does matter

[didymos1120]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Until there is a point in the game were the VS can die based on a choice you make

You mean "if".  And also: better hope there aren't some intolerably negative consequences, otherwise you'll have to keep 'em around to get the ending you want.

[AlexXIV]

didymos1120 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Until there is a point in the game were the VS can die based on a choice you make

You mean "if".  And also: better hope there aren't some intolerably negative consequences, otherwise you'll have to keep 'em around to get the ending you want.

The only intolerable negative ending would be 'Reapers Win'. And it's not in.

[DJBare]

General User wrote...

As long as they don't interfere with Shepard's mission(s)/operation(s) what does it matter who commands the Normandy?

Isn't Shepard better suited for being the overall mission commander than any particular ship's commanding officer any way?

I don't think most people realise that as commander of the ship Shepard should not even be going on missions unless absolutely neccassary, it would be his second in command leading teams.

[Ahglock]

DJBare wrote...

General User wrote...

As long as they don't interfere with Shepard's mission(s)/operation(s) what does it matter who commands the Normandy?

Isn't Shepard better suited for being the overall mission commander than any particular ship's commanding officer any way?

I don't think most people realise that as commander of the ship Shepard should not even be going on missions unless absolutely neccassary, it would be his second in command leading teams.

Well unless you last name is Kirk that is.  

[Arppis]

DJBare wrote...

General User wrote...

As long as they don't interfere with Shepard's mission(s)/operation(s) what does it matter who commands the Normandy?

Isn't Shepard better suited for being the overall mission commander than any particular ship's commanding officer any way?

I don't think most people realise that as commander of the ship Shepard should not even be going on missions unless absolutely neccassary, it would be his second in command leading teams.

Yeah, agreed. Plus that Sean Connery picture... it gives you wisdom. All I hear in my head is Connery.

Ahglock wrote...

Well unless you last name is Kirk that is.  

I think they were going for Kirkey there.

Modifié par Arppis, 12 février 2012 - 04:48 .

[didymos1120]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

DJBare wrote...

jreezy wrote...
Funny how something you don't agree with is "awful writing".

Par for the course, CerburusSoldier being a prime example.

   


Oh the whole story of the Mass Effect games has been bad writing but what can you expect from a ****** poor wanna be Star Wars and Star Trek franchise that wishes it had half the interesting stories that were told in those 2 Sci Fi iconic ips . Plus aliens invading earth is nothing new  in fact War of The Worlds first told this same storie . Ken Johnson's V mini Series in the 80's told it and in a much more emotional and scarier way .

Why do you even play then?  It seems not to give you anything you want. Oh, that's right: Miranda.

[General User]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

General User wrote...

As long as they don't interfere with Shepard's mission(s)/operation(s) what does it matter who commands the Normandy?

Isn't Shepard better suited for being the overall mission commander than any particular ship's commanding officer any way?

   


Oh it does matter

How so?  As long as the Normandy (or any other ship, ftm) gets Team Shepard where they need to be when they need to be there, I personally could care less who the CO is.  Like a modern-day warship that plays host to a team of Navy SeALs.

[didymos1120]

AlexXIV wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Until there is a point in the game were the VS can die based on a choice you make

You mean "if".  And also: better hope there aren't some intolerably negative consequences, otherwise you'll have to keep 'em around to get the ending you want.

The only intolerable negative ending would be 'Reapers Win'. And it's not in.

Your intolerable is not everyone's intolerable.

[Pompiliu92]

I think Shepard will get Space Battleship Yamato

[General User]

DJBare wrote...

General User wrote...

As long as they don't interfere with Shepard's mission(s)/operation(s) what does it matter who commands the Normandy?

Isn't Shepard better suited for being the overall mission commander than any particular ship's commanding officer any way?

I don't think most people realise that as commander of the ship Shepard should not even be going on missions unless absolutely neccassary, it would be his second in command leading teams.

Actually shouldn't that be the MARDET (Marine Detachment) CO leading ground strike teams?  But I take your point.  That sounds like a good arguement for Shepard NOT being the commander of the ship he's on.  I can get on board with that.

Modifié par General User, 12 février 2012 - 04:53 .

[AlexXIV]

didymos1120 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

Until there is a point in the game were the VS can die based on a choice you make

You mean "if".  And also: better hope there aren't some intolerably negative consequences, otherwise you'll have to keep 'em around to get the ending you want.

The only intolerable negative ending would be 'Reapers Win'. And it's not in.

Your intolerable is not everyone's intolerable.

Well the situation is that the Reapers are going to win because we have no chance. At the end, if we win, it was doing the impossible in any way. Who can complain about the way you save the galaxy if you did it?

[didymos1120]

AlexXIV wrote...

Well the situation is that the Reapers are going to win because we have no chance. At the end, if we win, it was doing the impossible in any way. Who can complain about the way you save the galaxy if you did it?

Do I really need to explain this?  Say for instance you screw up and the quarians are wiped out.  Kinda sucks if you're a fan of the quarian race.  On the other hand, could be great if you really despise 'em.  Thus, your intolerable is not everyone's intolerable.

[knightnblu]

Warden130 wrote...

No. Shepard is still very much in command of the Normandy. And considering Shepard is a Spectre, as well as Ashley, they are equally ranked.
Spectre Status > Alliance Rank.
If Ashley ever tried to take command of the Normandy, my Shepard will throw her out the airlock without hesitation, even though she is my Shep's love interest.

Equally ranked? Not hardly. Ashley is Lt. Commander = Major, Shepard is Commander = Lt. Colonel. Shepard still outranks her and Alenko by one promotion. Although Kaiden got the short end of the stick compared to Ashley's rise in rank because he should be an Admiral. The rank system is all fouled up, in my opinion.
 
Regardless, either the ship has no Captain meaning that it was in dry-dock and not assigned one secondary to refit or the VS is in command (a Spectre gets his own ship). I'm thinking that the VS becoming a Spectre isn't recent and the Normandy is theirs. How BioWare will resolve this is anybody's guess.

Edit - As an afterthought, it's clear that not a lot of thought was dedicated to the chain of command.

Modifié par knightnblu, 12 février 2012 - 04:59 .

[gxtimer]

Ashley can have the Normandy.... my shepherd is taking command of the Destiny Ascension!

[Pompiliu92]

How can Ashley get the Normandy because it used to be Cerberus Ship?

[didymos1120]

pompiliu92 wrote...

How can Ashley get the Normandy because it used to be Cerberus Ship?

Not anymore.  Take it you haven't been following ME3's development much.

[AlexXIV]

didymos1120 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Well the situation is that the Reapers are going to win because we have no chance. At the end, if we win, it was doing the impossible in any way. Who can complain about the way you save the galaxy if you did it?

Do I really need to explain this?  Say for instance you screw up and the quarians are wiped out.  Kinda sucks if you're a fan of the quarian race.  On the other hand, could be great if you really despise 'em.  Thus, your intolerable is not everyone's intolerable.

My point is that nobody's in any position to judge you for anyhting you do. Because even if a god existed in ME he would have watched billions of years while Reapers wiped out civilisation after civilisation. The only person who could judge Shepard is Shepard. And even Shepard has to agree that saving the galaxy trumps saving any or all races. Because for the first time after billion years of domination the galaxy will be free. So anything bad comming from Shepard is tolerable considering the gain/lose situation. Because the galaxy is better with Shepard than without, no matter how 'evil' he/she is. That is, assuming that he/she manages to save it at the end.

[didymos1120]

knightnblu wrote...

Equally ranked? Not hardly. Ashley is Lt. Commander = Major, Shepard is Commander = Lt. Colonel. Shepard still outranks her and Alenko by one promotion. 

Wrong. Shep is not a Commander. That rank doesn't exist in the Alliance.  He/she is also a Lt. Commander.  Also, in the Alliance Major is one rank above Staff Commander and is the marine equivalent of the navy's Captain.  Read the Codex

[Someone With Mass]

Over my rotten corpse.

I'd rather give it to Kaidan. At least he has some respectable clothes.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 12 février 2012 - 05:06 .

[ashwind]

Osena109 wrote...

She is a Spectre now  do you think   She is the CO and Shepard her XO or will she Give Commad  to Shepard?

Shepard already killed 2 Spectre. If she tries to boss me around, I wont mind killing a third 

[Pompiliu92]

Well I followed some period of time development but went to College, had to learn, now I have 2 exams left.If I'm not wrong the Cerberus signs and logos from the Normandy will be removed and the inside of the Normandy will be re-organized a bitt.

[Nexis7]

lol shes dead in my playthrough. good luck rising from the dead and trying to lead a ship with dead hands.

[didymos1120]

AlexXIV wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Well the situation is that the Reapers are going to win because we have no chance. At the end, if we win, it was doing the impossible in any way. Who can complain about the way you save the galaxy if you did it?

Do I really need to explain this?  Say for instance you screw up and the quarians are wiped out.  Kinda sucks if you're a fan of the quarian race.  On the other hand, could be great if you really despise 'em.  Thus, your intolerable is not everyone's intolerable.

My point is that nobody's in any position to judge you for anyhting you do. Because even if a god existed in ME he would have watched billions of years while Reapers wiped out civilisation after civilisation. The only person who could judge Shepard is Shepard. And even Shepard has to agree that saving the galaxy trumps saving any or all races. Because for the first time after billion years of domination the galaxy will be free. So anything bad comming from Shepard is tolerable considering the gain/lose situation. Because the galaxy is better with Shepard than without, no matter how 'evil' he/she is. That is, assuming that he/she manages to save it at the end.

Dude, WTF are you talking about?  CerberusSoldier was going on about how he's gonna kill the VS ASAP, and I said he'd better hope the game doesn't punish that in a way he doesn't find tolerable. Don't know where you got the notion this was about the morality of in-game actions.